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Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

The Phanteks PH-TC12DX is significantly better if you can find it.

Same supplier only. Happy to eat the $17 shipping if necessary but are there other options around this price point?

I think this should work if you scroll down to the air coolers. Or are their offerings inferior for the price?

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HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax

Nam Taf posted:

Thanks! Do you know what the difference is between the K4 and the K4/D3, both of which show up on Newegg?

For future reference, /D3 motherboards have DDR3 slots so you should make sure you don't accidentally buy one. They seem to be cheaper than the proper versions where I live which is kind of disconcerting.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I decided to just rekit my entire computer with Noctua fans since they're apparently just the best.

I also realized that my motherboard doesn't let me actually run my DDR4 RAM at 3000MHz? What gives?

e: Oh apparently my motherboard only allows DDR4 2133 MHz. gently caress.

jokes fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jun 8, 2016

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

Here's my list so far, may I please get a sanity check over it?

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $429.00)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($86.00)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($191.00)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($118.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $180.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00)
Total: $1139.00 holy poo poo it sucks to be in Australia

I have a case, though I may upgrade it later if it doesn't suit. I'm looking at the Fractal R5 if so.
I'm using my 560Ti until such time that I can get a GTX 1070 in a couple of months. I expect that to weigh in at about AUD$650 by taking the price of the 1080 FE here ($1179 hahahaha) and using ratios of that to the 1070's price.
I have peripherals and screens.

The main questions I have are:
1) Is there a better CPU in the $50-$80 price range? This one currently includes $17 shipping. One in this list that's comparable to the one above and cheaper, or better and the same price, would be ideal.
2) I think my PSU is decent from looking at other builds but I'm not sure. I don't mind paying $135 - I'd budgeted $150 - but am happy to change either cheaper if this is needlessly expensive or more expensive if there's good reason for it.

Thanks again for being peppered by my questions. I appreciate your help :)

Nam Taf fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jun 8, 2016

Gray Matter
Apr 20, 2009

There's something inside your head..

Trying to weigh the benefits between upgrading this aging AM3 build or dropping the dough for Skylake.
In either situation I'd either keep and OC my 7850, or pick up the RX 480 when it comes out depending on benchmarks. I play mostly old poo poo like Project 1999, LoL, Diablo 3, but also some Shadow of Mordor, BF4, and will be getting Overwatch soon. I like to play on ultra everything except for maybe some of the crazier AA settings. I don't typically play bleeding-edge games.

Current build:

1080p 60hz IPS monitor
CPU: FX-8350 4.0ghz w/ CM Hyper 212+ cooler
GPU: HIS IceQ Radeon HD 7850 2gb
Mobo: ASRock Extreme3 970
PSU: Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500w
RAM: 8Gb G.skill Ripjaws something or other



Upgrade option:
Replace the mobo with ASUS M5A99FX Pro and overclock everything. This is the cheaper route at around $110, assuming my PSU can handle that? Can probably get around 4.5ghz on the CPU and a couple more years of use for cheap.



New build option:
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $694.93

This is probably much more of a want than a need, but I'll consider it if putting more money into the AM3 system is a totally dumb idea.

LogicalFallacy
Nov 16, 2015

Wrecking hell's shit since 1993


WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:

I decided to just rekit my entire computer with Noctua fans since they're apparently just the best.

I also realized that my motherboard doesn't let me actually run my DDR4 RAM at 3000MHz? What gives?

e: Oh apparently my motherboard only allows DDR4 2133 MHz. gently caress.
That's all motherboards. To run your RAM at full speed you need to overclock. It's a fairly easy thing to do. Simply go into your BIOS, change the RAM voltage to 1.36, and change its multiplier to 30. For better instructions, either look it up online or wait for someone better than me at giving directions to reply.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

Seems like you should look into xmp profiles for your ram before screwing around with manually entered values, especially if you know nothing yet. I'd Google xmp and the model of your mobo and see what pops up

Gavrilo Princip
Feb 4, 2007

So I'm trying to build a new PC for my Grandma, on the grounds that her 10 year old Vista machine isn't really cutting it anymore. I'd like to build something basic (no gaming, just watching youtube videos, saving photos, sending emails) but fairly snappy with solid performance. While I know that no computer lasts forever and it's impossible to future proof these things, given the fairly basic requirements and comparatively low levels of usage I'd also like to pick parts that should last. Here's the provisional build I selected

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£95.51 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£26.37 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£41.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £422.21

Any suggestions would be very welcome and gratefully received.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Gavrilo Princip posted:

So I'm trying to build a new PC for my Grandma, on the grounds that her 10 year old Vista machine isn't really cutting it anymore. I'd like to build something basic (no gaming, just watching youtube videos, saving photos, sending emails) but fairly snappy with solid performance. While I know that no computer lasts forever and it's impossible to future proof these things, given the fairly basic requirements and comparatively low levels of usage I'd also like to pick parts that should last. Here's the provisional build I selected

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£95.51 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£26.37 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£41.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £422.21

Any suggestions would be very welcome and gratefully received.

Hmmm, a grandma machine probably won't need more than a dual core so here is an alternate build that aims to be very compact and still very cheap:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£48.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£92.86 @ More Computers)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£26.04 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£42.06 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.37 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£71.90 @ More Computers)
Total: £403.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 19:05 BST+0100

Gavrilo Princip
Feb 4, 2007

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Hmmm, a grandma machine probably won't need more than a dual core so here is an alternate build that aims to be very compact and still very cheap:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£48.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£92.86 @ More Computers)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£26.04 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£42.06 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.37 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£71.90 @ More Computers)
Total: £403.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 19:05 BST+0100

Jesus you're fast, thank you so much. Definitely looking at around the £400 mark for a decent build then, I'll put that to her. She finds it crazy how cheap these things are now, I remember her first computer cost about £2000 (~£3700 in today's money), and that was for a fairly standard home PC. I dread to think what I could build with that kind of cash these days.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Gavrilo Princip posted:

Jesus you're fast, thank you so much. Definitely looking at around the £400 mark for a decent build then, I'll put that to her. She finds it crazy how cheap these things are now, I remember her first computer cost about £2000 (~£3700 in today's money), and that was for a fairly standard home PC. I dread to think what I could build with that kind of cash these days.

No problem, I hope you Grandma enjoys it. :)

Anyway, £3700? How about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£260.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£244.62 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£204.66 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£241.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£199.24 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£619.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£619.00 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT H440 (Glossy White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£120.83 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£71.90 @ More Computers)
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor (£889.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £3651.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 21:53 BST+0100

Also you can go cheaper by doing a NUC of some sort, it should be plenty for E-mail, web browsing, watching videos and so on, I use an ASRock BeeBox for a HTPC and it works fine, it can even handle 4k video playback, here is a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwChn5u2EI

SVU Fan
Mar 5, 2008

I'm gay for Christopher Meloni
Hi guys! It's finally starting to become new computer time as my current system is reaching its end.

I am an artist and musician, and this computer will need to run smoothly while I do these at a professional level.

I will be using this for:

3D CG work (3D modeling, digital sculpting, CG rendering, etc)
softwares include:
-Autodesk Maya
-Pixologic ZBrush
-Adobe Photoshop

Music production:
softwares include:
-Propellerhead Reason
-FL Studio
-Cubase

A little bit of gaming
-Not a huge deal, but being able to run Steam games (dota 2, whatever else) decently would be good

Here's a build I'm thinking about so far:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.69 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1099.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 17:28 EDT-0400

How does it look? Any better suggestions? I'm trying to keep it around the ~$1,000 mark, give or take.

Thanks for any help! Much appreciated.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

SVU Fan posted:

Hi guys! It's finally starting to become new computer time as my current system is reaching its end.

I am an artist and musician, and this computer will need to run smoothly while I do these at a professional level.

I will be using this for:

3D CG work (3D modeling, digital sculpting, CG rendering, etc)
softwares include:
-Autodesk Maya
-Pixologic ZBrush
-Adobe Photoshop

Music production:
softwares include:
-Propellerhead Reason
-FL Studio
-Cubase

A little bit of gaming
-Not a huge deal, but being able to run Steam games (dota 2, whatever else) decently would be good

Here's a build I'm thinking about so far:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.69 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1099.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 17:28 EDT-0400

How does it look? Any better suggestions? I'm trying to keep it around the ~$1,000 mark, give or take.

Thanks for any help! Much appreciated.

Here is an alternate build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.69 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ Directron)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell P2314H 23.0" 60Hz Monitor ($192.46 @ B&H)
Total: $1102.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 18:21 EDT-0400

1) A slightly better mobo.
2) Somewhat faster and cheaper RAM.
3) A far, far better PSU, the Corsair CX line has reliability issues, this one is better in just about every way.
4) An IPS monitor, it will have much better color and much better viewing angles if you need to show a client/colleague something.

You might want to wait on the video card, new ones are currently coming out and this should push down prices a fair bit, you might be able to get a GTX 970 for like $200 instead of the 960.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Alright I need to stop procrastinating and actually start working on my next PC.

What country are you in? United States
What are you using the system for? Web and Office? Gaming? Video or photo editing? Professional creative or scientific computing? Gaming primarily, some occasional office work.
What's your budget? $1500, $2000 if including a good 1440p monitor
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1200 currently, looking at upgrading to 1440p, possible VR in the future.

This is the rough draft setup I have so far. I have a KB/M and can do a free upgrade to Windows 10 still. Case-wise I'm thinking of doing air intake via the fans w/filters since that'll keep the inside from turning in to a dust-filled mess (as quickly) compared to the usual "fans wherever, suck in air and everything else with it" setup my PCs have usually had. Any suggestions to make this better? I haven't kept fully up to date on cpus and memory but I know Samsung SSDs are still supposed to be fantastic.
I'm still a little torn between the 1070 and 1080 but I'm leaning towards the 1070 unless I can be convinced well otherwise (non-FEs I guess).

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: GTX 1070 $400
Optical Drive: ???
Total: $1193.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 20:34 EDT-0400

Optional: Monitor - Looking at something like an XB271HU for the monitor since it seems to be a pretty amazing display.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Evil Fluffy posted:

Alright I need to stop procrastinating and actually start working on my next PC.

What country are you in? United States
What are you using the system for? Web and Office? Gaming? Video or photo editing? Professional creative or scientific computing? Gaming primarily, some occasional office work.
What's your budget? $1500, $2000 if including a good 1440p monitor
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1200 currently, looking at upgrading to 1440p, possible VR in the future.

This is the rough draft setup I have so far. I have a KB/M and can do a free upgrade to Windows 10 still. Case-wise I'm thinking of doing air intake via the fans w/filters since that'll keep the inside from turning in to a dust-filled mess (as quickly) compared to the usual "fans wherever, suck in air and everything else with it" setup my PCs have usually had. Any suggestions to make this better? I haven't kept fully up to date on cpus and memory but I know Samsung SSDs are still supposed to be fantastic.
I'm still a little torn between the 1070 and 1080 but I'm leaning towards the 1070 unless I can be convinced well otherwise (non-FEs I guess).

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: GTX 1070 $400
Optical Drive: ???
Total: $1193.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 20:34 EDT-0400

Optional: Monitor - Looking at something like an XB271HU for the monitor since it seems to be a pretty amazing display.

Here is an alternate build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.81 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.62 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor ($717.94 @ B&H)
Video Card: GTX 1070 ($420.00)
Total: $1922.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 20:56 EDT-0400

1) I changed the CPU cooler for a better one, just search Newegg for it and you will find it there.
2) I changed the motherboard for one that is about as good but cheaper.
3) I changed the PSU for a better one with a longer warranty.
4) I added an optical drive since it seems like you wanted one.
5) Lastly I added the XB271HU monitor since it should be perfect for your setup and budget.

There is some budget left to add some fans if you want. Also avoid SuperBiiz and OutletPC like the plague, they hide shipping charges and have been caught selling open box and used stuff as new.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Optional: Monitor - Looking at something like an XB271HU for the monitor since it seems to be a pretty amazing display.

If you want high refresh rate and don't care about ultrawide, it's probably the best in the world right now.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
Small thing I noticed in the OP - the ASRock Z170 Pro4 is listed as "ATX, SLI-capable, slot between cards for extra airflow". It is not in fact SLI-capable, though it can do crossfire.

Texibus
May 18, 2008
Hey guys, planning to upgrade to a 1070 or 1080 from my 970

Curious if I need an upgrade to the my CPU aswell. I'm presently using an asrock z97e lga1150 board with i5-4690 3.5ghz processor.

What do you think? Do i need a new processor and motherboard to take advantage of the new card?

Edit: ohh and my resolution on my monitor is 1920x1080...... and I'm a Vive owner.

Texibus fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jun 9, 2016

Alzion
Dec 31, 2006
Technically a '06

Nam Taf posted:

Here's my list so far, may I please get a sanity check over it?

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $429.00)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($86.00)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($191.00)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($118.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $180.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00)
Total: $1139.00 holy poo poo it sucks to be in Australia

I have a case, though I may upgrade it later if it doesn't suit. I'm looking at the Fractal R5 if so.
I'm using my 560Ti until such time that I can get a GTX 1070 in a couple of months. I expect that to weigh in at about AUD$650 by taking the price of the 1080 FE here ($1179 hahahaha) and using ratios of that to the 1070's price.
I have peripherals and screens.

The main questions I have are:
1) Is there a better CPU in the $50-$80 price range? This one currently includes $17 shipping. One in this list that's comparable to the one above and cheaper, or better and the same price, would be ideal.
2) I think my PSU is decent from looking at other builds but I'm not sure. I don't mind paying $135 - I'd budgeted $150 - but am happy to change either cheaper if this is needlessly expensive or more expensive if there's good reason for it.

Thanks again for being peppered by my questions. I appreciate your help :)

The only minor problem I can spot is that your using a large cooler with RAM that has large heat spreaders. Look into the G.Skill Sniper seriers of RAM those have low profile heat spreaders designed to be able to fit under most of the larger CPU coolers.

If you do go with your current RAM choice it isn't the end of the world. You might be forced into using the last two DIMM slots on motherboard and have to run your RAM in single channel mode.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

Alzion posted:

The only minor problem I can spot is that your using a large cooler with RAM that has large heat spreaders. Look into the G.Skill Sniper seriers of RAM those have low profile heat spreaders designed to be able to fit under most of the larger CPU coolers.

Thanks, that's something I wouldn't pick up until building because the fan is something I have to order online and I'd really prefer not to run in single channel. Do you have an alternative, ideally from the link I gave, that would suit better?

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

I have the noctua d15s and some g.skill tridentz. That noctua heat sink is cut a little higher to accommodate ram

Alzion
Dec 31, 2006
Technically a '06

Nam Taf posted:

Thanks, that's something I wouldn't pick up until building because the fan is something I have to order online and I'd really prefer not to run in single channel. Do you have an alternative, ideally from the link I gave, that would suit better?

Full discloser: I can't be 100% sure on compatibility because your CPU Cooler doesn't give a official RAM clearance height on its webpage. But Corsair Vengeance LPX has a pretty low profile (33.5mm) and is in the same price range.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Texibus posted:

Hey guys, planning to upgrade to a 1070 or 1080 from my 970

Curious if I need an upgrade to the my CPU aswell. I'm presently using an asrock z97e lga1150 board with i5-4690 3.5ghz processor.

What do you think? Do i need a new processor and motherboard to take advantage of the new card?

Edit: ohh and my resolution on my monitor is 1920x1080...... and I'm a Vive owner.

only if you think paying what, $400-$500 for 3-5% more performance is worthwhile.

Hint: it is not.

Texibus
May 18, 2008
Thanks!

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Man, the 1070 is tomorrow, I need talked out of spending the extra £ on the 1080 right now.

Shalhavet
Dec 10, 2010

This post is terrible
Doctor Rope
It's time to replace my aging gaming computer. I've currently got a Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition with 16GB and a GTX 670.
Budget: Yes. I'd like to keep it below $3000 though. This includes virtually everything except the SSD/hard drives (I have two 850 EVO 500GB)
Goal: Video games maxed out at 1440p/144Hz. I want to use a full liquid cooler loop though, as I plan on getting an EVGA GTX 1080 Hydro Copper, unless there's a compelling reason not to.

Here's what I've come up with so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($203.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (~$700)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT LCS ATX Full Tower Case (~ $190 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($129.95 @ B&H)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($509.99 @ Amazon)
Total: ~$2452.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-09 16:58 EDT-0400

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Shalhavet posted:

It's time to replace my aging gaming computer. I've currently got a Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition with 16GB and a GTX 670.
Budget: Yes. I'd like to keep it below $3000 though. This includes virtually everything except the SSD/hard drives (I have two 850 EVO 500GB)
Goal: Video games maxed out at 1440p/144Hz. I want to use a full liquid cooler loop though, as I plan on getting an EVGA GTX 1080 Hydro Copper, unless there's a compelling reason not to.

Here's what I've come up with so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($203.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (~$700)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT LCS ATX Full Tower Case (~ $190 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($129.95 @ B&H)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($509.99 @ Amazon)
Total: ~$2452.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-09 16:58 EDT-0400

Here is an alternate build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($214.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($680.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($117.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($129.95 @ B&H)
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor ($717.94 @ B&H)
Total: $2557.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-09 17:48 EDT-0400

1) I changed out the older CPU cooler for a better, cheaper one.
2) I replaced the RAM with something faster since RAM bandwidth makes a difference in games these days and it was not much more expensive.
3) I changed the case, the Level 10 is an older case and a bit of a failed experiment, it was difficult to build in and watercooling was especially painful and expensive to do in it so it does not seem suited to your needs. The case here is very well suited to watercooling and a very nice case in general.
4) I replaced the PSU with something both cheaper and better overall.
5) I changed the monitor for a much better one since it was still within your budget. The one you had chosen has a TN screen with bad viewing angles, bad contrast and mediocre colors, this one has an IPS screen which is much better in all those areas.

Anyway, I hope this helps you out, good luck with your build. :)

Lilli
Feb 21, 2011

Goodbye, my child.
So, I didn't see anything about it in the OP and I might have missed it, but does anyone have a suggestion for what a good wireless card would be? I'm moving to a new apartment soon and I just realized that I may not be able to just plug my computer into the router at the new place. I'm just looking for a suggestion in case I end up needing to order one. Thanks!

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Lilli posted:

So, I didn't see anything about it in the OP and I might have missed it, but does anyone have a suggestion for what a good wireless card would be? I'm moving to a new apartment soon and I just realized that I may not be able to just plug my computer into the router at the new place. I'm just looking for a suggestion in case I end up needing to order one. Thanks!

I have this one which I like, it works fine and the corded antenna is nice so you can place it where it will get a good signal.

timn
Mar 16, 2010
Seconding the love for the antenna on that gigabyte card. It has a magnetic base and the antenna is hinged so it can fold up sideways. That lets you stick it to the side of your case with the atenna pointed up if you so wish.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

Gavrilo Princip posted:

So I'm trying to build a new PC for my Grandma, on the grounds that her 10 year old Vista machine isn't really cutting it anymore. I'd like to build something basic (no gaming, just watching youtube videos, saving photos, sending emails) but fairly snappy with solid performance. While I know that no computer lasts forever and it's impossible to future proof these things, given the fairly basic requirements and comparatively low levels of usage I'd also like to pick parts that should last. Here's the provisional build I selected

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£95.51 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£26.37 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£41.57 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£53.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £422.21

Any suggestions would be very welcome and gratefully received.

You should buy your grandmother an iPad. If she really wants a Windows desktop, buy her an inexpensive Dell and upgrade the hard drive to a flash hard drive and also maybe the memory to 8GB, if you want to attempt to future-proof the computer. It'll probably be cheaper and less hassle for all parties, and your grandmother can call tech support whenever she has a problem with her computer.

Tinkeron
Sep 11, 2005

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Here is an alternate build:
*snip*
Anyway, I hope this helps you out, good luck with your build. :)

That build comes in pretty close to what I've been thinking about, just a couple questions from someone on lovely budget computers and then out of the game for a long time:
I have a rather good TV I could use in lieu of a monitor, would it be a bad move to use the tv / cheap out for a monitor since I would use it less? I don't know how much refresh rates and such matter.
Any reason for the memory choice and not 16gb ones? I'd rather go big 4x16 and not have to worry for a long time, or is it diminishing returns?

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Here is an alternate build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.81 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.62 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor ($717.94 @ B&H)
Video Card: GTX 1070 ($420.00)
Total: $1922.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 20:56 EDT-0400

1) I changed the CPU cooler for a better one, just search Newegg for it and you will find it there.
2) I changed the motherboard for one that is about as good but cheaper.
3) I changed the PSU for a better one with a longer warranty.
4) I added an optical drive since it seems like you wanted one.
5) Lastly I added the XB271HU monitor since it should be perfect for your setup and budget.

There is some budget left to add some fans if you want. Also avoid SuperBiiz and OutletPC like the plague, they hide shipping charges and have been caught selling open box and used stuff as new.

Ordered the parts (used Amazon and Newegg, avoided those two you mentioned) but apparently that cooler gets shipped by the maker which is unfortunate since I'll be stuck waiting a few days for it. Gives me time to try my luck at getting a non-FE 1070 from MSI or EVGA I guess.

Ezzer
Aug 5, 2011

Built a computer for a friend today. Only ran into one problem: the jumper cable for the front chassis fan controller wasn't physically long enough to connect to the mobo. I assume this isn't too much an issue, the fan runs, I just assume there's no ability to control the fan speed? Do they make extensions for those?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

silence_kit posted:

You should buy your grandmother an iPad. If she really wants a Windows desktop, buy her an inexpensive Dell and upgrade the hard drive to a flash hard drive and also maybe the memory to 8GB, if you want to attempt to future-proof the computer. It'll probably be cheaper and less hassle for all parties, and your grandmother can call tech support whenever she has a problem with her computer.

I'm gonna disagree here, my mother got an iPad, found it far too limiting and found the touch interface to be a pain to use for anything beyond the most basic usage. I ended up getting her a NUC instead and it's worked out fine so far. I can see getting a cheap Dell, I didn't because the price difference was very small, my mother is pretty computer literate and because I have a moral objection to Dell computers after trying to help numerous people upgrade from one. :cheeky:

Tinkeron posted:

That build comes in pretty close to what I've been thinking about, just a couple questions from someone on lovely budget computers and then out of the game for a long time:
I have a rather good TV I could use in lieu of a monitor, would it be a bad move to use the tv / cheap out for a monitor since I would use it less? I don't know how much refresh rates and such matter.
Any reason for the memory choice and not 16gb ones? I'd rather go big 4x16 and not have to worry for a long time, or is it diminishing returns?

The monitor will look better on pretty much every level, much better color and the high refresh will make everything buttery smooth, even use outside of games will be affected. I know a number of people who, after using a high refresh panel, find using a 60Hz one jarring and extremely unpleasant so keep in mind that while the fancy monitor will definitely give you a better experience it will probably diminish your enjoyment of the TV in return, it's a bit of a double edged sword.

As for why not to go for 4x16GB of RAM it's because it's a big waste, I struggle to think of scenarios where 64GB would benefit you let alone be necessary. At most go for a 2x16 kit like this so you can upgrade to 64GB total later on if need be, it's much cheaper that way.

Ezzer posted:

Built a computer for a friend today. Only ran into one problem: the jumper cable for the front chassis fan controller wasn't physically long enough to connect to the mobo. I assume this isn't too much an issue, the fan runs, I just assume there's no ability to control the fan speed? Do they make extensions for those?

Yeah, you can get a fan extension cable here for cheap if you feel the need for it.

Linx
Aug 14, 2008

Pork Pro
It's been a while since I built my current gaming rig, 2008 to be exact. I'm in the process of saving up the cash for all new internals, but I've just pulled the trigger on a GTX 1070 which should arrive early next week with any luck. My question is, will the rest of my system noticeably impact gaming performance until I upgrade?

Currently rocking: Intel i7 920 @ 2.66GHz + 12Gb triple channel RAM @ 2133MHz. The GPU is a GTX 760 so I'm hoping for a decent performance boost.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Linx posted:

It's been a while since I built my current gaming rig, 2008 to be exact. I'm in the process of saving up the cash for all new internals, but I've just pulled the trigger on a GTX 1070 which should arrive early next week with any luck. My question is, will the rest of my system noticeably impact gaming performance until I upgrade?

Currently rocking: Intel i7 920 @ 2.66GHz + 12Gb triple channel RAM @ 2133MHz. The GPU is a GTX 760 so I'm hoping for a decent performance boost.

You out to be fine, an upgrade will help out, especially in minimum frame rates but your current system will be fine while you save up for something new.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I know the GPU is by far the most important part these days, but no bottleneck issues with a CPU from 2008?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Phlegmish posted:

I know the GPU is by far the most important part these days, but no bottleneck issues with a CPU from 2008?

It will probably bottleneck the GPU, especially at lower resolutions where loads of frames need to be rendered rapidly, but not to the extent that it would make upgrading the video card not worth it.

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Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler
The i7-920 tends to have good OC potential so try that if you haven't and you feel like it. You have to do BCLK overclocking which takes a bit more work than K chips, but I remember being able to get mine to 3.6GHz with a Hyper 212 on it and not having to do anything scary or intricate. Might have worked at stock voltage even, I know I was able to undervolt it quite a lot at stock speeds so there was definitely some headroom.

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