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Do the Chaos invasions end? I'm at the end of turn 113 and have soundly thumped the first wave with all the legendary lords but Sigvald is already back with a full stack. I'm playing as Vampires and ALLIED with the goddamn Empire now. They and Bretonnia are the 2nd and 3rd most powerful factions and I have to wipe them out before I can win. Worse still my northern border is now Kislev so I'm taking the heat from the invasions first. Kholek also got dropped by a lone Ostmark witch hunter 
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literally this big posted:So how's the multiplayer for this game? Are the modes fun, and is it easy to get a game? You may as well leave RO on for your first game or two and get a feel for the map gameplay they wanted. Then if you try RO later it will give you a nice comparison to see how it changes things. I'm real interested to see the Better AI mods for Warhammer, since in this case it may actually improve things. And also increase turn times.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:00
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Shumagorath posted:Do the Chaos invasions end? I'm at the end of turn 113 and have soundly thumped the first wave with all the legendary lords but Sigvald is already back with a full stack. I'm playing as Vampires and ALLIED with the goddamn Empire now. They and Bretonnia are the 2nd and 3rd most powerful factions and I have to wipe them out before I can win. Worse still my northern border is now Kislev so I'm taking the heat from the invasions first. Once Archaeon dies the first time I think it's a finite amount of reinforcement or a full stack was off somewhere you couldn't see and replaced their lord with Sigvald. There's a preference set on Archaeon, Kholek, and Sigvald if they can replace the generic lord leading the horde. Once you've killed off all the stacks you get a message about how it's over, no more chaos corruption mechanic and everyone goes back to hating each other.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:04
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Aurubin posted:Once Archaeon dies the first time I think it's a finite amount of reinforcement or a full stack was off somewhere you couldn't see and replaced their lord with Sigvald. There's a preference set on Archaeon, Kholek, and Sigvald if they can replace the generic lord leading the horde. Once you've killed off all the stacks you get a message about how it's over, no more chaos corruption mechanic and everyone goes back to hating each other.  Now if only I could kill this lone Varg sorcerer by save-scumming but nope your save stores the RNG. It's also nice that Bretonnia might start hating the Empire again so I can get them into a war on two fronts.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:15
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Shumagorath posted:Kholek also got dropped by a lone Ostmark witchunter Yeah Witch hunters in this game are almost all to a man incredible heroes who all have compelling character arcs.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:16
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Grondoth posted:Yeah Witch hunters in this game are almost all to a man incredible heroes who all have compelling character arcs. Nah, they're like Satlzpyre in vermintide, they love hunting down horrible monsters and murdering them.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:23
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Once the Warriors of Chaos are gone how tedious would it be to run through the north in raiding stance sack-razing so I never have to see another nordling again? Can't be worse than the three laps I had to do as Chaos.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:25
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Shumagorath posted:Once the Warriors of Chaos are gone how tedious would it be to run through the north in raiding stance sack-razing so I never have to see another nordling again? Can't be worse than the three laps I had to do as Chaos. If you have like 4+ armies who work as a giant wave of death it probably won't be that bad, especially as the orcs and dwarfs who can just underway everywhere. It's best done as a giant wave where you are sanitizing everything in one solid move.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:48
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Shumagorath posted:
Do something different and do things in a different order every time you save scum you'll get some new odds.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:49
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:Do something different and do things in a different order every time you save scum you'll get some new odds.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:51
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has anyone looted a Seed of Rebirth? supposedly it's a common talisman but I've only ever seen them on enemy leaders. Regen on a high level commander is pretty bonkers so it wouldn't surprise me if they made a passive regen item enemy-only related: This fight is unwinnable because Thorgrim has a seed of rebirth and it's literally impossible for the garrison to kill or rout him, but I win if I click autoresolve  
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Jun 11, 2016 04:15
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My empire version of the tier 4 hit the most popular this week  Interesting it's still on that list because it hasn't existed for nearly 6 hours
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Jun 11, 2016 04:17
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Flavahbeast posted:has anyone looted a Seed of Rebirth? I got one. Once. Common, my rear end.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:22
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Flavahbeast posted:has anyone looted a Seed of Rebirth? supposedly it's a common talisman but I've only ever seen them on enemy leaders. Regen on a high level commander is pretty bonkers so it wouldn't surprise me if they made a passive regen item enemy-only I've gotten a couple Seeds of Rebirth, yeah.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:22
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Having trouble getting a empire game off the ground on very hard, 10 turns in and dwarves/orcs are taking turns razing my starting province and I have no less then 5 full enemy stacks on every side because everyone started with imperial distrust and they are just marching across eachothers territory to get a piece of me.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:23
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Flavahbeast posted:has anyone looted a Seed of Rebirth? supposedly it's a common talisman but I've only ever seen them on enemy leaders. Regen on a high level commander is pretty bonkers so it wouldn't surprise me if they made a passive regen item enemy-only Would the regen from Sigvald's Auric Armor and a Seed of Rebirth stack? If so, I can't imagine what could kill him short of massed steam tank volleys.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:50
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William Bear posted:Would the regen from Sigvald's Auric Armor and a Seed of Rebirth stack? If so, I can't imagine what could kill him short of massed steam tank volleys.
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Jun 11, 2016 05:00
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Alright, I'm alone all weekend, I've already got the full Lord of the Rings series ready to go, looking to do a 1st playthrough of anything not VC... so orcs, dwarves, chaso, orhumans... so hard to choose.
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Jun 11, 2016 05:02
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Is there a way to march faster in the mountains or tundra? Warring against the Dwarves as VC and it's obnoxious how slow my armies move through the mountains while they can tunnel through my troops to attack my home provinces.
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Jun 11, 2016 05:23
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Anybody else notice the references to the Skaven sprinkled in? Grimgor makes a speech referencing his time killing "ratmen" at karak eight peaks. The disappearing population event has been noted. But I got a rare weapon drop, the description said it was forged at eight peaks and is good at killing "grobi and vermin alike." Does this mean The Best Faction will be coming soon? I hope so. The only other factions I've seen mentioned ingame are the elves and the chaos dwarfs
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Jun 11, 2016 05:38
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It's all but a guarantee that they'll be coming at SOME point. The game's set around rolling into End Times, it'd be more ridiculous if they didn't add them.
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Jun 11, 2016 05:47
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unwantedplatypus posted:Does this mean The Best Faction will be coming soon? I hope so. The only other factions I've seen mentioned ingame are the elves and the chaos dwarfs CA have stated that they will add every army that has a current army book as a playable race. So yes, barring the company collapsing or some similar catastrophe, there will be lizardmen eventually. And Skaven too, I guess.
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Jun 11, 2016 06:05
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Just finished Empire run. Bloody Amazing. Cleansed the land of all Norsca, Vampires and Greenskin before. A pain in the rear end but was so much fun after learning how to effectively counter the drat horse marauders. Time to do Azhag and finish Orc. I really wish there was sa way to take over a city and grant it to another nation. Friendly AI tend to build their cities short bus style and it would be a nice and very friendly gesture to say "here is this city I built... please have it and love me. " Also "be stronger and be my wonderful wall of protection against another nation pretty please. " I am very gay for Kislev and would like to rebuild their Empire and NOT take it over or have some random nation rebuild the ruin and add crap that lets Chaos take it over a few turns later. Just let me build the shiny wonderful city and use it please. I have yet to save that dwarf city on the top. They got steamrolled hard both times. Well before I met them. Only know about them from the Kislev mod. Time to win it with Azhag and hopefully get the bloody crown before midgame.
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Jun 11, 2016 06:18
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unwantedplatypus posted:Anybody else notice the references to the Skaven sprinkled in? Grimgor makes a speech referencing his time killing "ratmen" at karak eight peaks. The disappearing population event has been noted. But I got a rare weapon drop, the description said it was forged at eight peaks and is good at killing "grobi and vermin alike." It may just be fluff, Karak Eight-Peaks is a notorious 4-way shitfest of Dwarfs, Orcs, Skaven, and stupid treasure hunters that come in via the Dwarf-held upper city.
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Jun 11, 2016 06:41
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Von_Doom posted:A pain in the rear end but was so much fun after learning how to effectively counter the drat horse marauders.
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Jun 11, 2016 07:51
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Chomp8645 posted:He's taking about the about the actual calculations behind the results of an auto-resolve battle. Zero of the things you listed are relevant to that. Read his post again, it's more interesting than that.
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Jun 11, 2016 08:32
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Decus posted:They're inf_mel only instead of having their HP divided among lots of mens they're just one man.
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Jun 11, 2016 08:58
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unwantedplatypus posted:Anybody else notice the references to the Skaven sprinkled in? Grimgor makes a speech referencing his time killing "ratmen" at karak eight peaks. The disappearing population event has been noted. But I got a rare weapon drop, the description said it was forged at eight peaks and is good at killing "grobi and vermin alike." Kemmler also mentions something about ratmen and their warpstone in one of his quest battles. Skaven are pretty significantly present in the background. I also just ran into Dark Elves. As Empire, I got an event about dark raiders sailing humongous ships and taking slaves in coastal provinces.
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Jun 11, 2016 10:15
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Lord Hypnostache posted:Kemmler also mentions something about ratmen and their warpstone in one of his quest battles. Skaven are pretty significantly present in the background. There's also a Beastmen reference about brayherds stampeding through the forests.
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Jun 11, 2016 10:17
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What's the criteria for getting magic items in campaign? In my Greenskins playthrough I was getting magic items seemingly every second battle. I'm on turn 90 in my Empire playthrough and I have a total of 3!
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Jun 11, 2016 10:28
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unwantedplatypus posted:Anybody else notice the references to the Skaven sprinkled in? Grimgor makes a speech referencing his time killing "ratmen" at karak eight peaks. The disappearing population event has been noted. But I got a rare weapon drop, the description said it was forged at eight peaks and is good at killing "grobi and vermin alike." kemmler's quest for the staff references them as well it is noticeable how much they sprinkle them in; I've seen a few elf references, and haven't seen anything pertaining to ogres, beastmen, tomb kings, or other peoples. CA is obviously aware which faction is the best and I'm going to guess whatever expansion they're in will be a bit focused on them while also including the less hyped races that wouldn't carry an expansion on their own. I'm guessing that the one expansion will push west and south and include ogres, chaos dwarves, demons of chaos, tomb kings, and skaven to sell it. the other will be vanilla, chocolate, and mint elves, beastmen, lizardmen, and a naval component as the centerpiece feature. pure speculation.
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Jun 11, 2016 10:42
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Lord Hypnostache posted:Kemmler also mentions something about ratmen and their warpstone in one of his quest battles. Skaven are pretty significantly present in the background. Your dark elf comment reminded me that I got a couple followers that reduce attrition on the deep sea Of which, im sure there is some on the map, but none ive run into getting anywhere including coastal raiding the norscan tribes. 93 turns into Empire on my first normal game. The only noticeable and impactful difference so far is greater casualties for auto-resolve. Specifically, my Lords are getting absolutely hosed by auto resolve, like I can only auto resolve two battles max before i need to sit Gelt on a city to heal. Tactical combat wise, I have noticed no difference other than slightly faster battles due to increased routing.
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Jun 11, 2016 11:35
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OK I am about to sound real real stupid, probably because I am, but I don't get what "checkerboarding" is, I saw the picture in the OP but I can't really tell what's going on in it, and I just started a Dwarfs campaign so I imagine it would be useful? I know it has to do with Thunderers and Quarrelers, that's about all I got.
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Jun 11, 2016 11:38
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MC2552John posted:OK I am about to sound real real stupid, probably because I am, but I don't get what "checkerboarding" is, I saw the picture in the OP but I can't really tell what's going on in it, and I just started a Dwarfs campaign so I imagine it would be useful? Basically you leave gaps in your frontline that your gunners can shoot through, that's all. Enemy melee infantry will still generally go for your melee frontline even then. Your melee blocks will usually get enveloped some by broader enemy lines, but that just allows your thunderers or whatever to freely shoot into their flanks. This most useful with Thunderers, cannons, and other ranged units with a flat trajectory that can't just shoot over your own guys, but it's still useful even with Quarrelers because they can keep shooting for longer. Here's a lovely diagram: 
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Jun 11, 2016 11:52
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gently caress the Norscans and their ability to poo poo out innumerable full stacks that waltz past your armies and sack cities. I feel like they need some kind of change, like making them into smaller individual tribes, toning down their income, or making sacking take longer than one turn if the city is built up. I've defeated Chaos, wiped out the vampire counts and all but beat the game as Empire but have to hold off conquering the last few provinces to play marauder whack-a-mole.
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Jun 11, 2016 12:46
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Banshees are loving nuts on the battlefield. I had two of them holding off four units of dwarves on a wall while my Grave Guard came up from behind to ruin their day. They amassed nearly 300 kills between them.
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Jun 11, 2016 13:04
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Pipski posted:This should be added to the FAQs in the OP. I don't remember the game even mentioning it. ZenVulgarity posted:It doesn't iirc otherwise I wouldn't have asked here It's.... it's in the OP and always has been?  shalcar posted:How do I get my units to move in formation? On another note, does anyone know what the differences between Very Hard and Legendary are? Historically the only difference between the two has been that Legendary enforces Ironman, doesn't let you use the minimap or issue orders while not on normal speed but all the actual modifiers have been the same as VH. Is that still the case?
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Jun 11, 2016 13:05
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Tiler Kiwi posted:kemmler's quest for the staff references them as well It might also be that there's another pretty successful recent videogame that features the Skaven as the main antagonists and they want to capitalize on that exposure.
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MC2552John posted:OK I am about to sound real real stupid, probably because I am, but I don't get what "checkerboarding" is, I saw the picture in the OP but I can't really tell what's going on in it, and I just started a Dwarfs campaign so I imagine it would be useful? Not to one up the previous poster, but here's some in game screens. I took five minutes to toss an army up in custom battle. it's 3 shield/spears, 2 swordsmen, three greatswords, 2 cannons, 2 riflemen, and 4 Knights. Imho it's not a great composition. The greatswords are a bit redundant, but that's more to demonstrate that you don't need ranged to use the checkerboard formation for fun and profit. Top down without unit highlights.  With highlights.  The general idea is to give yourself a place to fire with gunpowder and fire units since they have no firing arc to shoot over allies without a hill. The AI will try to envelop your line troops which will expose their flanks to your ranged units. You can essentially replace the ranged units with heavy hitters or various cavalry for similar effect, which is closer to the original use of the Roman formation. The infantry in the middle can be whatever you want, here I have greatswords, so assume I'm facing dwarves with this much armor piercing. You can use them to protect your ranged units, fill in lines, flank, or just sit there and be chearleaders. Bonus pictures showing how i suck at making straight formations. Front  Back  Pretty profile view  Bonus: Alternative formation options the Romans used if you're feeling historical and sassy.  Personally i wonder if Cannae Tactic would be a good option for utilizing Goblins in an Orc army. Nasgate fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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shalcar posted:It's.... it's in the OP and always has been? Man ive been trying to do the Alt+right click enemy armies for ages now and i just couldn't seem to get it to work so i ignored it. Finally figured it out in a custom battle. You gotta have the group locked with the little lock icon when you hold Alt+right click enemy or your units will still just congegrate on one target. Thats cool, i mean ive just spent.... 160 hours on this game before i figured it out.. 160 hours.. 
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