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This may sound like a ridiculous question but how much pleasure and satisfaction am I missing out on by gaming at 60hz and 1080p?
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Jun 11, 2016 02:06
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objects in mirror posted:This may sound like a ridiculous question but how much pleasure and satisfaction am I missing out on by gaming at 60hz and 1080p? Are you having fun? How much are you prepared to spend on your computer?
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Jun 11, 2016 02:21
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xthetenth posted:Are you having fun? My situation is that I use a vizio tv that's 1080p from a couch, and I love the large display...it makes things really immersive. However it's a bit unpractical to upgrade without sacrifices as the only TV sets that offer 120hz refresh rate from PC input are only at 1080p, and driving a 4k set isn't yet feasible on a single GPU. Considering just holding on to my 770 and getting a 4k set along with the 1080ti whenever the latter comes out.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:32
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objects in mirror posted:My situation is that I use a vizio tv that's 1080p from a couch, and I love the large display...it makes things really immersive. However it's a bit unpractical to upgrade without sacrifices as the only TV sets that offer 120hz refresh rate from PC input are only at 1080p, and driving a 4k set isn't yet feasible on a single GPU. Considering just holding on to my 770 and getting a 4k set along with the 1080ti whenever the latter comes out. How big and close is that monitor? Because one thing that might work is the Wasabi Mango that's 4K, 40+" and only 60 Hz but has freesync. That's the main thing I can think of that would offer an upgrade, but it might not be right for you and especially your GPU budget.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:38
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1440p seems to be the next "node" in resolution that everyone's going to, and high refresh rate 1080p screens are somewhat popular too. The issue is that they're intended as computer monitors, not TVs, so the size isn't going to be huge.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:39
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xthetenth posted:How big and close is that monitor? Because one thing that might work is the Wasabi Mango that's 4K, 40+" and only 60 Hz but has freesync. That's the main thing I can think of that would offer an upgrade, but it might not be right for you and especially your GPU budget. It's 50 inches, and I guess I'm 6 feet away. And I actually just sit behind a desk to use it. It's very indulgent but very immersive too. PerrineClostermann posted:1440p seems to be the next "node" in resolution that everyone's going to, and high refresh rate 1080p screens are somewhat popular too. Really? Because the impression I'm getting is that it's going to be 4k, perhaps starting in the next GPU generation after Pascal/Polaris, perhaps abetted by cheaper and cheaper TV sets being 4k and co-functional as monitors. There will be an industry wide panel-manufacturer convergence on 4k and 1440p will be skipped.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:54
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1440p might be skipped in TV-land, which previously solidified on 720 and 1080, but computers can go anywhere and much more hardware exists for 60fps gaming at 1440p than at 4k. 4k might be the next resolution when displays stagnate, like what happened with 1080p, but 1440p is definitely the sweetspot for higher-than-1080p, other than ultrawides.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:57
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I've never seen a 1440p, they went right from 1080p to 4k displays and 4k TVs are coming down in price so someone making a 1440p TV would be really weird. Ok that's just silly. Probably amazing to use, but silly.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:02
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That really begs for some good software to manage putting windows in columns.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:16
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objects in mirror posted:My situation is that I use a vizio tv that's 1080p from a couch, and I love the large display...it makes things really immersive. However it's a bit unpractical to upgrade without sacrifices as the only TV sets that offer 120hz refresh rate from PC input are only at 1080p, and driving a 4k set isn't yet feasible on a single GPU. Considering just holding on to my 770 and getting a 4k set along with the 1080ti whenever the latter comes out. The BenQ XR3501 or the AOC C3583FQ might be perfect for you, actually It's "only" 1080 vertical, but the massive size, ultra-wide aspect ratio, curve, high refresh, and MVA color makes it much better than a standard 1080p screen Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 06:11
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Just grabbed a 27" LG 4k (being the cheapest IPS model available) First impressions are drat it's set bright out of the box (100%) but after knocking that down to 25% it looks pretty great to me without any further tweaking. Plenty of IPS glow of course but there doesn't seem to be any bleed to speak of which is nice (on of my old monitors had it bad in one corner) Coming from dual U2412Ms it certainly saves a lot of desk space and looks nice but that stand sucks and not having a built in USB hub is kind of a bummer. Still in my opinion that's definitely the right place to be skimping.
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Jun 11, 2016 06:37
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UWD is perfect for movies (at least those in 2.35:1), but not everyone likes to watch movies at their desk.
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Jun 11, 2016 08:08
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It's also pretty awesome for games and general workspace  It's like two 1280x1024 screens in one!
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Jun 11, 2016 08:41
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Evil Fluffy posted:I've never seen a 1440p, they went right from 1080p to 4k displays and 4k TVs are coming down in price so someone making a 1440p TV would be really weird. There is no 1440P content, so no one would ever make a 1440P TV. Just like how HDTV and above resolutions were available for CRT monitors before HDTV's were even a thing, but no one made HDTV's until there was a commitment to the content.
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Jun 11, 2016 09:49
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I dug my old Samsung 940bw out of storage yesterday to use as a secondary monitor, but I can't get it to display it's native resolution of 1440x900. I got the last drivers from Samsung, but that res still isn't an option for that screen. Any ideas? It's vga plugged in via a dvi adapter if that matters.
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Jun 11, 2016 11:10
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Do these ultrawide monitors have some kind of input mode where it can trick the GPU into thinking the monitor contains 2x monitors at the hardware level? Just wondering cause from my experience a lot of games will just take up the entire monitor no matter what resolution setting you put in. Having a 32:9 ultrawide or whatever seems nice for the lack of bezels and such but not if my game only supports 16:9 and blackbars the rest of the screen. Something like that Dell 4k monitor that was posted that can trick the computer into thinking it's 4 separate monitors for example for when the game doesn't want to play nice.
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Jun 11, 2016 17:19
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Boris Galerkin posted:Do these ultrawide monitors have some kind of input mode where it can trick the GPU into thinking the monitor contains 2x monitors at the hardware level? Just wondering cause from my experience a lot of games will just take up the entire monitor no matter what resolution setting you put in. Having a 32:9 ultrawide or whatever seems nice for the lack of bezels and such but not if my game only supports 16:9 and blackbars the rest of the screen. Something like that Dell 4k monitor that was posted that can trick the computer into thinking it's 4 separate monitors for example for when the game doesn't want to play nice. Some of them do. I believe my 21:9 can handle each HDMI connection as its own separate display. It's usually called "Picture Beside Picture" or something similar.
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Jun 11, 2016 17:49
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PerrineClostermann posted:It's also pretty awesome for games and general workspace This. I have come to love my ultrawide. It's a really wonderful ratio. That super duper ultra ultrawide up there is crazy, but probably gorgeous.
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Jun 11, 2016 21:45
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Subjective, but if I have two monitors with near identical specs (refresh rate, resolution) and one is 1ms TN and the other is 4ms IPS, which should I go for? For gaming, mostly. I currently game on a 1ms monitor but at 60Hz not 144.
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Jun 11, 2016 22:29
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sout posted:Subjective, but if I have two monitors with near identical specs (refresh rate, resolution) and one is 1ms TN and the other is 4ms IPS, which should I go for? For gaming, mostly. I currently game on a 1ms monitor but at 60Hz not 144. The IPS, the difference between 4ms and 1ms is mostly unnoticeable, the difference between both contrast and color on an IPS screen vs a TN one is very noticeable, the IPS one gets much better viewing angles to boot.
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Jun 11, 2016 22:43
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Massdrop has the 27UD68P-B for $400 right now. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lg-27-4k-freesync-monitor-27ud68p-b Would I be better off getting 3 of those or 2 34" ultrawides? I'm going to be using this for game design, mostly (coding, 3d modeling, texture artwork), but also doing some moderate gaming on it. My one concern is that my desk is huge, so my head is 3.5 - 4 ft away, and I'm worried about everything being too teeny-tiny. I'm using a 40" 1080p TV right now, which isn't the best solution for desktop use. If I get the 4k's, I'll also need to upgrade my GPU to something with DP right away instead of waiting. Would a GTX1080 be enough for moderate 3-screen gaming?
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Jun 11, 2016 22:44
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KillHour posted:Massdrop has the 27UD68P-B for $400 right now. A 1080 can just about push 4k at decent frame rates, but not 3x4k, personally I would go with the three 4k screens and just game on one of them with a 1080, two ultrawides makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. I would also think about one of the 40" 4k screens plus a couple smaller ones in portrait mode to either side, that seems like it would offer a ton of space and resolution while being big enough that being 3.5'-4' away would not make things look tiny.
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Jun 11, 2016 22:50
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:A 1080 can just about push 4k at decent frame rates, but not 3x4k, personally I would go with the three 4k screens and just game on one of them with a 1080, two ultrawides makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. I would also think about one of the 40" 4k screens plus a couple smaller ones in portrait mode to either side, that seems like it would offer a ton of space and resolution while being big enough that being 3.5'-4' away would not make things look tiny. I would probably game in surround @ 1080p. I mostly play driving sims, so surround is REALLY appealing to me. Also, the ultrawide is almost an inch taller and has a lower native DPI, which is probably good for the distance. The fact that my existing GPU could drive the ultrawides with HDMI instead of dropping another 700+ also makes me feel better cash-wise (I only have 1 DP output). KillHour fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 22:52
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As someone who has a 43" 4K TV as a monitor, it is a mixed experience. It kind of sucks for any kind of gaming that requires lots of fast awareness of your surrounding while playing with keyboard and mouse. I have a small desk, so it's hard to get it far enough back to be comfortable to play Overwatch or anything like that. Otherwise, it's amazing.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:01
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I guess I should also ask if that Massdrop is a good price. It seems like it is, but if there is a better deal on a similar monitor (or if ultrawides are cheaper), I'm all ears.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:05
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The IPS, the difference between 4ms and 1ms is mostly unnoticeable, the difference between both contrast and color on an IPS screen vs a TN one is very noticeable, the IPS one gets much better viewing angles to boot. Also worth pointing out that those numbers are the panel's response time, but what you really care about is the display lag, which includes all the delay from the monitor's internal processing. It's conceivable that some IPS monitor could have less display lag than some TN monitor even if it has a higher response time. I don't think response time numbers are comparable between manufacturers either? They're all gray to gray but they never say which gray to gray.
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Jun 11, 2016 23:06
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Sinestro posted:As someone who has a 43" 4K TV as a monitor, it is a mixed experience. It kind of sucks for any kind of gaming that requires lots of fast awareness of your surrounding while playing with keyboard and mouse. I have a small desk, so it's hard to get it far enough back to be comfortable to play Overwatch or anything like that. Otherwise, it's amazing. Have you tried a 1:1 mapped custom resolution? I.E. with black borders? I think 1440p on that display, 1:1, would be somewhere in between a 24-27" diagonal
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Jun 12, 2016 00:40
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Would running a 4K display at 1080 look as good a a native 1080 monitor of the same size? A 4K desktop might be nice but there's no way laptop GPUs can play games in 4K anytime soon.
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Jun 12, 2016 00:54
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That mass drop deal is super tempting. These normally go for about $500, so you are saving about anywhere from $50 to $100 depending on sales at other sites. The only thing really holding me back is the lack of reviews for this monitor. Can't seem to find anything other than a basic run down of specs.
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Jun 12, 2016 01:25
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Ynglaur posted:Would running a 4K display at 1080 look as good a a native 1080 monitor of the same size? A 4K desktop might be nice but there's no way laptop GPUs can play games in 4K anytime soon. No but it's perfectly usable for games unless you're playing something that has lots of small text The additional usability on the desktop more than makes up for it for me.
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Jun 12, 2016 01:54
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Can someone recommend a monitor for a R9 390? Can it run a 1440 fine or should I stick with 1080 144hz?
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Jun 12, 2016 04:43
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im gay posted:Can someone recommend a monitor for a R9 390? Can it run a 1440 fine or should I stick with 1080 144hz? The LG 21:9 29" 2560x1080 IPS Freesync monitor is what I use. The ultrawide ratio is great for gaming and movies, and it does Freesync up to 75hz, and runs under $300 shipped. I'm using a R9 390 to play Dark Souls 3 on it at 21:9 right now and it's great.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:01
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Zero VGS posted:The LG 21:9 29" 2560x1080 IPS Freesync monitor is what I use. The ultrawide ratio is great for gaming and movies, and it does Freesync up to 75hz, and runs under $300 shipped. I'm using a R9 390 to play Dark Souls 3 on it at 21:9 right now and it's great. The current model of this is the 29UM67-P, if I'm not mistaken.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:39
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That's tempting. Cheap too. Hate being inbetween the 1440p and 144hz cycle though.
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Jun 12, 2016 07:27
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im gay posted:That's tempting. Cheap too. Hate being inbetween the 1440p and 144hz cycle though. I'd pick based on what sort of games I play more, like for me I play slower paced stuff for the most part so I went with a nice 60Hz IPS.
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Jun 12, 2016 08:43
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'd pick based on what sort of games I play more, like for me I play slower paced stuff for the most part so I went with a nice 60Hz IPS. I play mainly competitive games, Dota, CS. Anything you recommend?
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Jun 12, 2016 08:51
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im gay posted:I play mainly competitive games, Dota, CS. Anything you recommend? Counter strike suggests a high refresh rate
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Jun 12, 2016 08:59
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I was looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2411Z-Monitor-Supported-seamless/dp/B00ITORITU?ie=UTF8&tag=amazon0606-20 It seems like the go-to for competitive type games. Do I miss anything for not having FreeSync?
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Jun 12, 2016 09:03
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im gay posted:I was looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2411Z-Monitor-Supported-seamless/dp/B00ITORITU?ie=UTF8&tag=amazon0606-20 Yeah, you do, Freesync is very nice to have. Here is a nice monitor that is 144Hz and has free sync: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/f3tWGX/nixeus-monitor-nxvue24a It got a pretty positive review from someone who I trust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJsskZpWzGw
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Jun 12, 2016 09:25
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