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Mr Hootington posted:How was All-Star Section 8? Read old Hitman first.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Ever seen Mark Waid's studio? He has a spinner rack holding every comic he's ever written and a replica of the Batman '66 phone under a glass dome, among other things. I think he did it for the Robot6 shelf porn blog on CBR. Waid gave Alex Ross a lot of the references used for the Planet Krypton restaurant in Kingdom Come because he owns most of that stuff. Even a replica HERO Dial.
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SonicRulez posted:What are the great non-Heart of Ice Mr. Freeze stories? His appearance in Batman Beyond?
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Jun 12, 2016 00:06
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His first appearance in the Adam West TV show had a bunch of Mr Freezes and a bunch of Batmen fighting each other for some reason I can't remember. That's worth buying those Blurays for. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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Jun 12, 2016 00:12
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Looking it up, I had no idea Joe Mad was as young as he was back in the day. When he was on Uncanny X-Men, he was about 25. That explains a few things.
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Jun 12, 2016 00:20
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Die Laughing posted:Even a replica HERO Dial. I need this.
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Jun 12, 2016 00:23
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Dial a RHYNO. Turns you into some form of Guy Gardner.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Read old Hitman first. I was afraid this was going to be the answer. Well at least they have it all on Comixology.
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Has this interview with Johns been posted? Much of it's the same that he's been saying, but I found some of it pretty interesting and edifying.Geoff Johns posted:There's more going on that simply relaunching the DCU line, though. The book ends with Batman finding the Comedian's badge from Watchmen, followed by a scene that directly quotes from the original Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons book. Given the reputation of the original Watchmen, that's a bold move. How nervous were you, bringing those characters into the book? BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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Jun 12, 2016 03:23
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Shows how little power he really has. New 52 Teen Titans must have been a dagger in his chest.
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Jun 12, 2016 03:41
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So is this showing how little to blame Johns for New 52? Because it makes more sense that he wouldn't change the characters.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:13
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I'm 100% with Geoff on Connor Kent. One of the biggest losses I personally felt in the New 52. Connor and Tim Drake were pretty much my favorite characters in the DC Universe prior to the New 52.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:15
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So, I finished Requiem - and what should've been a really powerful story (and admittedly, at points it still is, with Snyder and Tomasi's Requiem issues being really effective and affecting tie-ins) collapses because of how it's a Morrison story that just doesn't loving fit with the status quo of the New 52. It honestly should've kept to its own Morrison canon or something because the plot of Requiem and the Requiem tie-in issues makes absolutely zero sense. Damian Wayne dies and neither Barbara Gordon nor Jason Todd show up for his funeral? The raised stakes of the end of Requiem don't fit with the internal chronology and story of its tie-ins, and the plot is so loose and nonsensical it's really clear that Morrison was building his story to killing off Damian but then the New 52 happened and made the story just flatly not work in the new universe. Like, I dunno why they didn't just go with volume 2 of Batman, Inc taking place pre-New 52 and all issues of all ongoing stories that had him show up previously got justified with "they took place before the New 52 happened". Or had Snyder actually handle the killing off of Damian or something because the way they did it just makes the whole chronology of the event series make no loving sense. And usually I can ignore weird plot niggles if the character work is really resonant but Batman, Inc being part of the same canon and happening simultaneously as the events of Batgirl and Batman and Batman and Robin makes the whole story be confusing as hell. It just doesn't work on any level as a larger story.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:27
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Batman and _______ gets really fuckin good right after Damian dies. I mean it was already really good but they go to some unexpected and great places. For best results shotgun the rest of that series immediately after finishing Requiem.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:32
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My current plan is to finish out Batman, Incorporated (mostly because I've found the whole run so far pretty unimpressive outside the Requiem stuff), but I'll move around my reading order so the rest of the Batman and Robin run comes immediately after.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:36
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X-O posted:I'm 100% with Geoff on Connor Kent. One of the biggest losses I personally felt in the New 52. Connor and Tim Drake were pretty much my favorite characters in the DC Universe prior to the New 52. He had plans for Superboy before he even started writing comics, I get why seeing a character he totally reinvented changed so drastically would suck.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:46
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I always say that Flash was the only Geoff Johns I really liked but that's because I always forget that he wrote good short run on Adventure Comics and about his Teen Titans and JSA stuff which I also enjoyed for the most part. The problem is I just never really identified him with those characters like I did with Flash or Green Lantern or some of the more terrible crossovers and events he's been responsible for. I know he did some work on Superman as well that I liked, did he work on New Krypton? I really liked that storyline. For some reason I always give James Robinson the credit for that one. I know he wrote the Superman Secret Origin book which I did not like.
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X-O posted:I always say that Flash was the only Geoff Johns I really liked but that's because I always forget that he wrote good short run on Adventure Comics and about his Teen Titans and JSA stuff which I also enjoyed for the most part. The problem is I just never really identified him with those characters like I did with Flash or Green Lantern or some of the more terrible crossovers and events he's been responsible for. I know he did some work on Superman as well that I liked, did he work on New Krypton? I really liked that storyline. For some reason I always give James Robinson the credit for that one. I know he wrote the Superman Secret Origin book which I did not like. He wrote action from up up and away to the start of new krypton
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Jun 12, 2016 05:08
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His Hawkman run is shockingly enjoyable. I'm fairly certain he had James Robinson checking his notes on that series because it was structured quite a lot like Starman.
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bobkatt013 posted:He wrote action from up up and away to the start of new krypton Yeah, I knew he did Up Up and Away I was unsure if he was on through New Krypton though. New Krypton through War of the Supermen was probably the last Superman stuff I really dug before recently. I think after that JMS came on and poo poo the bed with his run.
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X-O posted:Yeah, I knew he did Up Up and Away I was unsure if he was on through New Krypton though. New Krypton through War of the Supermen was probably the last Superman stuff I really dug before recently. I think after that JMS came on and poo poo the bed with his run. He had a great bizarro story, legion story, brianiac story, and introduced Chris Kent and the new/old version of Zod
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Jun 12, 2016 05:22
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I probably checked out mentally when Legion got involved. That's one of those DC mainstays that I could just can never get into no matter who was writing it or what they were doing.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:26
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Why is Karlo-Clayface talking about an "accident" causing his current condition? I thought he mainlined Matt Hagen's remains to intentionally gain clay-powers. And where's Preston Payne these days? (It's me, I'm the long-lapsed DC fan trying to catch up due to Rebirth.)
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Why is Karlo-Clayface talking about an "accident" causing his current condition? I thought he mainlined Matt Hagen's remains to intentionally gain clay-powers. And where's Preston Payne these days? There is only one clayface due to Doctor Manhattan.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:47
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bobkatt013 posted:There is only one clayface due to Doctor Manhattan. ....I was actually kind of on board with the idea of this whole thing, but I'm not loving the erasure of my second-favorite DC character. If they ruined Wesley Dodds I'm going to have to bow out.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:49
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X-O posted:I probably checked out mentally when Legion got involved. That's one of those DC mainstays that I could just can never get into no matter who was writing it or what they were doing. You missed out. It is an amazing storyline.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:58
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The others were erased by New 52, not Rebirth. It's just that Rebirth makes it so anything New 52 did was Manhattan's fault. Sandman died years ago, and it looks like he only exists on Earth 2 in the New 52.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:59
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I hope Bluebird eventually shows up in Detective. I know she's off at college but she's much more interesting than Spoiler.
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Jun 12, 2016 06:03
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We've only seen two of the old man JSAers and just in the last month or so. No reason to not expect him to pop up.
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They wouldn't make a huge deal out of this missing ten years thing if they weren't going to eventually get at least some of that missing time back. The JSA will be back. Wally and Linda will be back together. Maybe we'll even get Conner back.
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Connor would be a good character to add as a big bro type in Super Sons. I can't imagine Johns will make a big deal about how much he misses him and NOT push for him in some book or another.
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I'm really curious to see how they reconcile the pre Flashpoint versions with the current ones. Especially since we have two distinct Supermen.
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Mr Hootington posted:You missed out. It is an amazing storyline. No, I almost assuredly read it. Superman is one of those characters like Spider-Man or Captain America where I weathered through all the stuff I didn't necessarily care for just because I love the characters so much. I didn't really stop with Superman until early in the New 52. Just sometimes I kind of forget about them quickly if the stories aren't doing it for me. And Legion stuff never clicked for me.
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Even DC knows how hard the Legion is to get into which is why they have fully rebooted them more times than they have their own universe. 1994 Post ZH LOSH = Best LOSH btw.
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Jun 12, 2016 06:24
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Spoiler is such an atrociously bad superhero, which sucks considering how good of a character Stephanie Brown is (and how she's the only love interest of Tim Drake's I actually loving buy as a love interest).
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Rhyno posted:I'm really curious to see how they reconcile the pre Flashpoint versions with the current ones. Wonder Woman already has me worried about this being too much of a concern. I'm into the complication Superman has going on. That's fun. And Titans can do whatever it's doing without me reading it, but hopefully that's about it and everything else can just get to relatively organic storytelling for a while.
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Like even her name is just loving dumb, her costume isn't distinctive, and the only time she's compelling in costume is when she's hanging out with/flirting with Red Robin. God Spoiler. At least Red Hood is hateable. Spoiler is a person-shaped void in space.
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Toxxupation posted:Spoiler is such an atrociously bad superhero, which sucks considering how good of a character Stephanie Brown is (and how she's the only love interest of Tim Drake's I actually loving buy as a love interest). So she was bad for most of her career?
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Rhyno posted:Even DC knows how hard the Legion is to get into which is why they have fully rebooted them more times than they have their own universe. That's the one DC property Hickman has repeatedly said he'd like a shot at, I don''t think even that would get me to give it a read.
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X-O posted:That's the one DC property Hickman has repeatedly said he'd like a shot at, I don''t think even that would get me to give it a read. I'm hoping when they roll out the Legion Rebirth book it has his name on it. 1000 years in the future, several alternate timelines, 30+ members each from a different world? This has his name all over it.
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