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Me to my Senators and congresswoman posted:Dear (Senator) Anything I should add? I know writing people in congress is pointless, but dammit I want to do something and this is all I got right now.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:12
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Yardbomb posted:gently caress em, it's not about strength in my suggestion, it's about "I hope he's rotting in some hell or another" more. Murdering him would have made him a martyr. Instead he's an embarrasment who complains the lack of current gen video games in his cell is inhumane
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Jun 12, 2016 22:20
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Atoramos posted:There is not a human on this earth who would see such a thing and interpret it as strength. Don't care. Couldn't care less right now 50 people gunned down and the good, honest people of the USA are debating What Does It Mean. What does it mean for my guns, my war, my presidential candidate, my posting career, my social media profile. It means, as a late American hero said, Muslims and faggots out of America
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Jun 12, 2016 22:21
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:Murdering him would have made him a martyr. Instead he's an embarrasment who complains the lack of current gen video games in his cell is inhumane I wasn't saying they should have killed him, I said it would've been great if he'd just done himself first and skipped the part about killing a bunch of young people.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:22
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I wanted to see him in court, poorly making his case, failing to impress anyone and getting 50 consecutive life sentences. I wanted to be prison pen pals with him
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Jun 12, 2016 22:26
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Yardbomb posted:I wasn't saying they should have killed him, I said it would've been great if he'd just done himself first and skipped the part about killing a bunch of young people. Yeah, and if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. Back on topic. Absolute tragedy. Trouble is, coming out with hyperbolic and knee-jerking comments doesn't exactly help things. People are rightfully fired up about this whole situation, and it's natural to be all "kill-em-all" in the aftermath because it's a highly emotional thing.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:28
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Unfortunately if it's justice you're after you're not going to see any. There ought to be some, but there won't be. Best you can hope for is a little ammunition to use against those who by rights should be the ones being hanged for their culpability in pushing people to do poo poo like shoot up nightclubs. If it's catharsis you're after then unless you have the facility to murder every fundamentalist fuckhead who is paying lipservice to how tragic this was right now, well, you're probably not getting that either.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:29
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The Republican rush to embrace The Gays because it gives them an excuse to be islamophobes reminds me of that line of world leaders marching for Charlie Hebdo.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:36
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Problem with immediate kneejerking violent retribution is, like another poster said about the far-right in Europe, it ends up empowering neo-nazi fuckwits who would happily beat people for 'looking gay' any other day to go around beating people for 'looking Muslim' while feeling they've got some kind of popular mandate. And that also plays into exactly what groups like ISIS want; scared, angry, marginalized Muslims. And empowers the far right who will come up with other reasons to oppose LGBT rights. No action will change what happened, but BigRed0427's thing with directing outrage into anti-discrimination legislation seems like the best kind of path, not smashing Mosques. Ball Cupper posted:Yeah, and if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:38
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Badger of Basra posted:The Republican rush to embrace The Gays because it gives them an excuse to be islamophobes reminds me of that line of world leaders marching for Charlie Hebdo. And much like that, they will be abandoned with shocking speed as soon as they do something which disagrees with whatever things they hold dear.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:44
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Guavanaut posted:And that also plays into exactly what groups like ISIS want; scared, angry, marginalized Muslims. Indeed, they've been explicit about this. ISIS wants crackdowns against Muslims and wants a full-scale Western military assault against them. People, please don't give ISIS what they want.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:46
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I hate his stupid combination bowl+buzz cut, I hate his stupid mirror selfies, I even sneer with contempt at the lovely cheap phone he took them with. Like the first and last time I played roulette I came close to understand gambling addiction when I put money on my lucky number, and the next higher number came out (and then my lucky number, and then zero), I'm coming close to understanding hate, like, real hate. I don't know if it's decency or ennui that's stopping me from going further
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Jun 12, 2016 22:49
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PT6A posted:And much like that, they will be abandoned with shocking speed as soon as they do something which disagrees with whatever things they hold dear. Hopefully all the good gays don't leave and we put out a bunch of islamophobic op-eds.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:52
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Guavanaut posted:Possibly the wrong thread for that particular idiom. Haha yeah, didn't think about that! Apologies.
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Jun 12, 2016 22:55
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Too late, we're already getting some incredibly bad op-eds! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/the-scope-of-the-orlando-carnage.htmlquote:But let’s be clear: This was no more an attack on L.G.B.T. people than the bloodshed at the offices of Charlie Hebdo in Paris was an attack on satirists. Jesus Christ.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:16
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This attack on gay people in a gay venue by an attacker claiming allegiance to a group that calls for the brutal execution of gay people isn't the time for identity politics.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:25
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Guavanaut posted:This attack on gay people in a gay venue by an attacker claiming allegiance to a group that calls for the brutal execution of gay people isn't the time for identity politics. They hate us for our freedoms.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:29
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Badger of Basra posted:Too late, we're already getting some incredibly bad op-eds! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/the-scope-of-the-orlando-carnage.html Er, I thought that the charlie hebdo attacks were pretty much exactly an attack on satirists?
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Jun 12, 2016 23:35
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Badger of Basra posted:They hate us for our freedoms. What freedoms? Oh, right, the freedom to be gay
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Jun 12, 2016 23:38
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That columnist guy was the first out gay dude to be an op-ed NYT columnist, too. 
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Jun 12, 2016 23:40
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Yardbomb posted:Also Breivik should've sprayed his own brains on some trees and saved the people over there even the smallest amount of time and money. Though it would've been nicer if he'd also opted to do that before he shot anyone else in the first place. Breivik never intended to be caught alive.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:42
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Badger of Basra posted:They hate us for our freedoms. Well, this attack proves this, at its core. The primary freedom under attack is the freedom to have a sexual relationship with whomever you choose in this case, and we need to not lose sight of that (nor the fact that homophobia in the US was very likely a motivating factor), but ultimately this was an attack on a right which we should hold sacred in a secular society, and it should be treated as such. When one such right comes under attack, we must treat it as if every freedom we have which they oppose is under attack. We shouldn't divide the results into categories when the causes are the same. Of course, we should also take this opportunity to confront and eradicate homophobia in our own society.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:46
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a foolish pianist posted:That columnist guy was the first out gay dude to be an op-ed NYT columnist, too. Yea but Bruni was also the first NYT op-ed guy to actually just be a machine that spits out banality and random articles about Italy in alternating patterns, and frankly that's a bigger accomplishment.
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Jun 13, 2016 00:01
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Tune in for Bruni's next hot takes. Obama, he's pretty cool, and then two articles about how Italy is a neat place you guys you should check it out.
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Jun 13, 2016 00:02
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Badger of Basra posted:Too late, we're already getting some incredibly bad op-eds! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/the-scope-of-the-orlando-carnage.html Welp, I was assuming the violent homophobia of this attack would get elided. I think that in the next few days and weeks it's important that we don't let the media whitewash this event into some random tragedy. The hatred this piece of poo poo felt for gay people is clear, and we can't let his religion absolve us of the responsibility of examining and fighting against the hatred of lgbt people that lots of people in our society have, whether they're Muslim, Christian, Atheist, whatever.
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Jun 13, 2016 00:12
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Badger of Basra posted:They hate us for our freedoms. That is literally the case this time, though.
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Jun 13, 2016 01:12
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Liberal_L33t posted:That is literally the case this time, though. Oh good you're here to tell us all Muslims need to be put into camps.
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Jun 13, 2016 01:24
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Liberal_L33t posted:That is literally the case this time, though. Tell us about your Fine Ol' Solution.
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Jun 13, 2016 01:24
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Sharkie posted:Welp, I was assuming the violent homophobia of this attack would get elided.  to you and all the rest, whether QUILT, BAG, or allies of.It's a lovely couple events but tolerance is winning out... which is part of what upsets these fuckers so much. The best way to spit on this Omar fellow's grave is to keep working for justice, unity, and love. 
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Jun 13, 2016 01:25
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hackbunny posted:I hate his stupid combination bowl+buzz cut, I hate his stupid mirror selfies, I even sneer with contempt at the lovely cheap phone he took them with. Like the first and last time I played roulette I came close to understand gambling addiction when I put money on my lucky number, and the next higher number came out (and then my lucky number, and then zero), I'm coming close to understanding hate, like, real hate. I don't know if it's decency or ennui that's stopping me from going further I think you need weed bro. When you admit your rage is irrational and still wanna go through with it, weed.
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Jun 13, 2016 07:56
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Badger of Basra posted:Too late, we're already getting some incredibly bad op-eds! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/the-scope-of-the-orlando-carnage.html Oh gently caress that guy.
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Jun 13, 2016 13:33
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I'm also seeing some horrible responses from the Log Cabin Republicans that Obama should be acknowledging the threat of "radical Islam" and Pink Pistols saying this is proof all gay people should be armed because I'm definately sure that a dozen or more people trying to shoot a gunman in a dark and crowded night club would have gone well.
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Jun 13, 2016 13:36
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RagnarokAngel posted:I'm also seeing some horrible responses from the Log Cabin Republicans that Obama should be acknowledging the threat of "radical Islam" and Pink Pistols saying this is proof all gay people should be armed because I'm definately sure that a dozen or more people trying to shoot a gunman in a dark and crowded night club would have gone well. Except that there were three armed people at the scene, police officers. It didn't do poo poo except turn a shooting into a hostage situation
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Jun 13, 2016 14:06
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Jun 13, 2016 14:13
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That being said, nothing's going to happen. If we couldn't do anything after a bunch of innocent kids were murdered during school then we're certainly not going to do anything for a bunch of folks who "choose" to live a sinful lifestyle getting shot up at a sin den nightclub. 
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Jun 13, 2016 18:24
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Obviously ISIS is trying to deplete our vital gay stores in this new front of the war on terror. We must protect the gays. Our nation, and all straight peoples of the free world, depend on them.
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Jun 13, 2016 18:31
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Kylra posted:Obviously ISIS is trying to deplete our vital gay stores in this new front of the war on terror. We must protect the gays. Our nation, and all straight peoples of the free world, depend on them. We cannot allow a Soddomy gap!
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Jun 13, 2016 19:12
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I know this got lost in the shuffle but has anyone seen any news on the young woman who was in the anti gay camp?
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