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Crain posted:He's speaking at a Rally in NH today at 2:30pm EST. That's where the touted speech is happening. Initially it was going to just be a general rally with a stump about National Security/Foreign affairs, then he switched to the topic du jour. I thought he was going to go over the Clinton scandals today?
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A Winner is Jew posted:I thought he was going to go over the Clinton scandals today? He was, but clearly talking about how right he is about the mooslem threat is good for his polls.
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A Winner is Jew posted:I thought he was going to go over the Clinton scandals today? Maybe. Either way it's going to be 15 minutes of hate now.
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Franco Potente posted:In a thread packed to the brim with shitposts, this dark horse candidate takes it. Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? Because cheerleading is the worst kind of shitposting.
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? You suck.
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? muslims are very nice people, i've met quite a few of them, and it seems a bit silly to to imply the whole religion is categorically evil
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? Actually you're a known bigot, so people should disparage your rather than pretend anything you say is valid.
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ElrondHubbard posted:What if a major root cause of these incidents is the fetishism of deadly weapons? Should we not address that? I doubt that it is. Most of the weapon fetishism I've seen is along the lines of insisting that weapons are a causitive factor in violence. I'd love to see any evidence that this may be the case, though.
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? Muslim Americans are more accepting of the LBGT community than most Christian Americans?  But I'm sure your Camp/Deport plan will work wonders. LeJackal posted:I doubt that it is. Most of the weapon fetishism I've seen is along the lines of insisting that weapons are a causitive factor in violence. A significant factor, to be sure. But considering you'll say anything to rush to the defense of GUNZ...
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? Mr Trump, we already asked you to delete your account
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CommieGIR posted:Muslim Americans are more accepting of the LBGT community than most Christian Americans? Can you post that poll or source, please? I'd like to be able to link it in better detail elsethread.
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Liberal_L33t posted:Are you interested in trying to make a counter-argument (hell, I don't even care if you load it down with ad-hominems; go for it), or are you just after a giddy little moment of power by acting as a self-appointed enforcer for the forum's consensus opinion? The First Amendment? We can't start imposing restrictions on Islam because we have freedom of religion.
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Zelder posted:muslims are very nice people, i've met quite a few of them, and it seems a bit silly to to imply the whole religion is categorically evil There's a Middle Eastern / Halal foods store at the end of my block, run by and caters to the large local Muslim population. I went to get some bananas this morning, they had a "WE STAND WITH ORLANDO" banner over the entrance.
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Zelder posted:muslims are very nice people, i've met quite a few of them, and it seems a bit silly to to imply the whole religion is categorically evil A lot of white supremacists in small towns out in rural Texas or whereverthefuck are very nice people, I've met quite a few of them too. Their subscribing to one bad ideology doesn't mean they are completely, or even mostly, bad people. They aren't morally culpable for subscribing to an ideology they've grown up surrounded by. That doesn't change the fact that belief in the innate superiority of one skin color over another is always a negative influence. Likewise, belief that Islamic scripture is the literal truth and that it overrides the validity of all other moral reasoning is always a negative influence. Otherwise nice people who subscribe to that belief would be nicer if they abandoned it.
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What I'm trying to say is, ban them all.
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Houston Chronicle has a slideshow of 50 front pages and how they chose to frame the issue, very interesting.
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WampaLord posted:The First Amendment? We can't start imposing restrictions on Islam because we have freedom of religion. There's been enough talk of repealing the 2nd, why stop there? Might as well put the 4th out of its misery too, after its been so thoroughly gutted.
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Pellisworth posted:I went to get some bananas this morning, they had a "WE STAND WITH ORLANDO" banner over the entrance.
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LeJackal posted:There's been enough talk of repealing the 2nd, why stop there? because the second is the only cancerous one, OP.
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Jun 13, 2016 18:47
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WampaLord posted:The First Amendment? We can't start imposing restrictions on Islam because we have freedom of religion. The first amendment doesn't say that religious leaders and institutions should be immune to criticism in the media, which seems to be the consensus position of this thread, and the position that I'm arguing against.
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Liberal_L33t posted:The first amendment doesn't say that religious leaders and institutions should be immune to criticism in the media, which seems to be the consensus position of this thread, and the position that I'm arguing against. There's a difference between 'Criticism' and 'Let's round them up, put them in camps, and deport them' Oh and between 'Criticism' and 'Painting all Muslims with Broad Strokes'
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Liberal_L33t posted:The first amendment doesn't say that religious leaders and institutions should be immune to criticism in the media, which seems to be the consensus position of this thread, and the position that I'm arguing against. Oh, so your solution is for us to just bash the gently caress out of Radical Islamic Terrorists in the media and that will solve the problem by....doing what exactly? Cause in my mind, it would just piss off more Muslims.
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theflyingorc posted:Missed opportunity to say "STANDO" imo heh you could also pun on "stan" because they are Muslims, get it We "Stan"-do with Orlando
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While we're at it can we make the 3rd and 14th amendments swap places?
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Crain posted:He's speaking at a Rally in NH today at 2:30pm EST. That's where the touted speech is happening. Initially it was going to just be a general rally with a stump about National Security/Foreign affairs, then he switched to the topic du jour.
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More guns = less violence
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emdash posted:because the second is the only cancerous one, OP. Naw, its fine. smoke sumthin bitch posted:More guns = less violence I don't think there is a casual connection.
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Liberal_L33t posted:The first amendment doesn't say that religious leaders and institutions should be immune to criticism in the media, which seems to be the consensus position of this thread, and the position that I'm arguing against. you like to pretend islam is immune to criticism because it's too emotionally painful to confront the fact that your bigotry is widely rejected and detested
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Pellisworth posted:heh you could also pun on "stan" because they are Muslims, get it This would be good for a place that sold Afghans "Buy an afghan-and-stando with Orlando", the marketing writes itself
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Reminder most of the people who wrote the constitution did not invisage it lasting very long, and also that the context of which the second amendment was dreamed up was pretty radically different from today.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder most of the people who wrote the constitution did not invisage it lasting very long, and also that the context of which the second amendment was dreamed up was pretty radically different from today. Same for the other amendments, though, right?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Time to start a list of the things he's probably going to say: what happened was very tragic, I love the gays, they're wonderful people and I have many many gay supporters
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder most of the people who wrote the constitution did not invisage it lasting very long, and also that the context of which the second amendment was dreamed up was pretty radically different from today. More significant is that other countries don't have it and their leading cause of death isn't "home invasion" like we apparently think it would be here
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B-b-b-but we all know democrats don't want to ban guns... they want common sense gun control! Just gonna interrupt the pearl clutching about how unsafe we all are with some armed minorities since they make both conservatives and bougie liberals uncomfortable: https://twitter.com/SebastiaNavarra/status/742086951583514628
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder most of the people who wrote the constitution did not invisage it lasting very long, and also that the context of which the second amendment was dreamed up was pretty radically different from today. It's a living document which means if you change it in any way it will die.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Time to start a list of the things he's probably going to say: He's on a teleprompter so it's going to be an extremely boring recitation of GOP party talking points.
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CommieGIR posted:Muslim Americans are more accepting of the LBGT community than most Christian Americans? Evangelical Christians (I.E. the worst kind of christian) do not equate to "Christian Americans". But that doesn't even matter because the specific percentages of an American demographic who do or don't support X/Y/Z policy aren't the last word on this. The majority radicalism in other parts of the world has unavoidable collateral effects in the west (and again, if you look at aggregate global opinion polls, a majority of the world's muslims do have really, really horrible political opinions even in comparison to right wingers in western nations). Saying that "Islam has absolutely nothing to do with incidents like this" just gives ammunition to radical clerics who want to shut down all criticism of any aspect of Islamic practices and try to intimidate journalists into silence.
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zoux posted:He's on a teleprompter so it's going to be an extremely boring recitation of GOP party talking points. So he will still be saying horrible things, just in a boring way.
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LeJackal posted:Same for the other amendments, though, right? Actually, yes. The document was never really intended to be bound in stone and even if it were, it's not like the people who wrote it were 100% right about everything.
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zoux posted:He's on a teleprompter so it's going to be an extremely boring recitation of GOP party talking points. Last time he made frequent asides. That's where he'll say something truly offensive today.
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