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I get that you really love Chrome OS, but even Google has already admitted it's a bad idea: by moving to having the devices run Android apps. This completely eliminates the supposed benefit of everything running in Chrome and just makes them half-assed Android devices with a better version of Chrome installed compared to normal Android Chrome (which kinda sucks because it's pointlessly limited). Once again, hopefully they'll finally admit they hosed up and just straight up do it as Android, which has always been massively more popular than Chrome OS. And no, Chrome OS is a terrible thing to recommend to people with limited computing experience, because it is a bad product.
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Internet Explorer posted:Please stop responding to fishmech. Seriously, for someone who obviously lives behind a computer he really doesn't understand them.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:39
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So is the Shield K1 really the only viable non-Samsung, non-Kindle, non-cheapchinashitbox 8" tablet out there these days? Don't get me wrong, I think they're great (I have an OG Shield Tablet, myself), but the market seems REALLY drained right now. I'm specifying non-Samsung/Kindle because my FIL is used to stock Android (his 2013 N7 just poo poo the bed).
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Seem to have a weird bug with the Pixel C that I haven't had on my phone at all. When I would turn out a bluetooth audio output device (headset, speaker, etc) it doesn't hand off the audio to it's own speakers. I've gotten really use to turning off my headset and then hitting play on a youtube video to play something with the device speakers on my phone, but the Pixel C seems to just be silent. Anyone experience this? Reconnecting the device seems to make it work on the external just fine, but even if I pause and disconnect via the OS it seems to be silent after I hit play again. Closing the apps using audio and reopening them doesn't change anything either 
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Jun 14, 2016 18:50
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AlexDeGruven posted:So is the Shield K1 really the only viable non-Samsung, non-Kindle, non-cheapchinashitbox 8" tablet out there these days? Nvidia only even bothers since they make their own chips and it's a good way to show them off.
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Jun 14, 2016 18:56
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fishmech posted:Yeah, you can, because it's no longer 2010. But you could also buy a $200 Linux machine running a full Linux OS and run Chrome on it, and it's simply all around better than Chrome OS. ChromeOS is a fantastic product for non-technical users.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:53
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Tunga posted:ChromeOS is a fantastic product Now that you can get Android Apps ChromeOS is a great product for everyone and can satisfy most every workload except gaming and non-web software development.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:58
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Tunga posted:Tell this to my Dad who doesn't understand anything about computers. Have fun teaching him to install and use Linux and not break the entire thing without a week. No one needs to learn how to install Windows to use Windows, why do you think you need to learn how to install Linux to use Linux? Especially when you would just set it up for him so it has a big ol menu that says INTERNET and goes to Chrome and maybe some manner of of other application. People grossly overestimate how stupid people are, and how hard computers are. Literally billions of people out there are using the supposedly too complex Windows OS for instance. Even more billions are using Android, which is a full and complete operating system as well. Stick100 posted:Now that you can get Android Apps ChromeOS is a great product for everyone and can satisfy most every workload except gaming and non-web software development. Which goes to show that Chrome OS was very bad as its original idea, and is only salvageable by making it a more awkward way to run Android applications. Just make it Android full stop and it would be much better.
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Jun 14, 2016 21:49
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Heck, I'm a very technical user and my chromebook is my second most used PC-ish device besides my desktop. I weep at the money I wasted on my XPS 13. I get lots of utility out of it because I already use web apps for almost everything I do besides development work. It's just such a low-friction device, and the low-friction-ness of it is just something that many types of technical people don't "get" as being important.
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Jun 14, 2016 21:52
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Even though Chromebooks are obviously a good thing, they'd be even better if they ran Android and Android worked well in that form factor and mobile Chrome wasn't absolute poo poo.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes he's batshit insane.  Thermopyle posted:Heck, I'm a very technical user and my chromebook is my second most used PC-ish device besides my desktop. I weep at the money I wasted on my XPS 13. Thermopyle posted:Even though Chromebooks are obviously a good thing, they'd be even better if they ran Android and Android worked well in that form factor and mobile Chrome wasn't absolute poo poo. You hit the nail on the head, and it's sad when people are too stupid to understand this.  AlexDeGruven posted:So is the Shield K1 really the only viable non-Samsung, non-Kindle, non-cheapchinashitbox 8" tablet out there these days? There's the Acer Predator 8 I suppose, which is their direct Shield competitor. It's not as good as the Shield, but it's an alternative at least. 
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Jun 15, 2016 03:44
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Thermopyle posted:Even though Chromebooks are obviously a good thing, they'd be even better if they ran Android and Android worked well in that form factor and mobile Chrome wasn't absolute poo poo. Google thinks Chrome doesn't need extensions on Android because apps. This makes me question the wisdom of recreational marijuana in California because Google is making decisions while clearly stoned off their fuckin' gourd.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:57
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Google thinks Chrome doesn't need extensions on Android because
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Atomizer posted:I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes he's batshit insane. He's Fishmech, most of us know not to engage.  Atomizer posted:You hit the nail on the head, and it's sad when people are too stupid to understand this. I'm not sure I agree. The best part about ChromeOS is the simplicity and for all of Android's strengths, simplicity isn't one of them. While ChromeOS could be tightened up in places (my biggest complaint is the way they try to present weblinks as apps when the kind of user who would most benefit from ChromeOS would either be confused by that or know that's wrong) it's still the perfect Momputer. Every elder I've recommended a Chromebook/box for has loved the experience and glad to be rid of their cryptolockered Windows box. MikeJF posted:Google thinks Chrome doesn't need extensions on Android because Yep.
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My ChromeOS use case is to only barely use ChromeOS itself as a platform to run real Linux apps on, because ChromeOS has HiDPI and touchscreen stuff on lockdown. Makes it a pretty perfect platform for me, and I'm deep into the power user classification.
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Jun 15, 2016 12:54
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I didn't realize there were so many people who voluntarily did not use Firefox on their various android devices. I can't even imagine life without ublock origin 
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Jun 15, 2016 16:32
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Syrinxx posted:I didn't realize there were so many people who voluntarily did not use Firefox on their various android devices. I can't even imagine life without ublock origin I had Firefox installed in case I ever had a usecase for it, but I removed it on my tablet once the Search + B shortcut never saved that Chrome should be the default. Speaking of issues, my audio issue seems to not exist anymore after installing Android N. I also updated two bug updates in a row last night and forgot to test 
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Jun 15, 2016 16:48
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Syrinxx posted:I didn't realize there were so many people who voluntarily did not use Firefox on their various android devices. I can't even imagine life without ublock origin I just use Netguard's ad blocking instead. And it's system wide!
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MikeJF posted:[It is hard to quote edited quotes.] Hanlon's Razor says don't pin on malice what can be explained by neglect or folly. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 17:25
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Horn posted:I just use Netguard's ad blocking instead. And it's system wide! I have heard those are hard on the battery.
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Jun 15, 2016 17:38
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Anyone have a or had experience with a Lenovo Tab 2 A10 10" tablet? It has a 1080p ips screen, 2gb ram, 16gb storage, with a mSD slot. Thinking of getting one as a gift for my mother who's Nexus 10 screen has like completely yellowed (Think it's from her smoker's fingers.)
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LastInLine posted:He's Fishmech, most of us know not to engage. Well yeah, I didn't know any better, this was my first [rude] introduction to him. At the beginning I just thought I was having a productive discussion on a subject I'm interested in. We all saw how that turned out....  The best part is that I simultaneously got in an equally retarded shitfest with him in another thread about Windows (and as you might've guessed, he also doesn't know what he's talking about there either! Shocker!  Check his post history!)I had to go back up to therm's quote to see what you were getting at. The "Chromebooks should run Android [and Android should be better in the first place]" was like the one thing that I didn't actually agree with (just because I'm satisfied with ChromeOS for my purposes) but I do agree that Android (and mobile Chrome) have plenty of room for improvement. Syrinxx posted:I didn't realize there were so many people who voluntarily did not use Firefox on their various android devices. I can't even imagine life without ublock origin I actually recently started using the Adblock Browser, which is based on Firefox. I used to use the sideloaded Adblock app but had to uninstall it as it was responsible for various system-wide connection issues (e.g. not letting at least one third-party widget access its API.) I might have to try Firefox proper (which I've used in the past on Android) with ublock; I wasn't aware that Firefox mobile had plugin support! As it stands, I use Chrome for normal browsing, and to sync browser history (i.e. typically finding an article that I want to read later on a Chromebook.) I've been using the Adblock browser, which I think is a little slow but functional, for pages that are ad-laden. I otherwise don't have a problem with sparse, tasteful, unintrusive ads. As far as mobile browsers go, how do you like Opera, by comparison? Any other good competitors?
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I had to laugh, because as he was making GBS threads up this thread and going back and forth with you he managed to do the same to the drug legalization thread and he got that one closed.
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Internet Explorer posted:I had to laugh, because as he was making GBS threads up this thread and going back and forth with you he managed to do the same to the drug legalization thread and he got that one closed. Lol yeah, I checked his post history and saw that he was talking about "the primary usage of cough syrup" in a drug thread, the latter fact suddenly explaining a lot.Holy poo poo, >65 posts/day?! Over 237 THOUSAND posts?!?! The autism is real....  Anyways, sorry for this derail.
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Atomizer posted:Lol yeah, I checked his post history and saw that he was talking about "the primary usage of cough syrup" http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=2006
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Atomizer posted:Lol yeah, I checked his post history and saw that he was talking about "the primary usage of cough syrup" I love fishmech. He is a Something Awful treasure
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I love fishmech. He is a Something Awful treasure This is the truth. For all his faults, I think fishmech is one of my favorite posters.
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 I had no idea....Does "trained to coupons" mean his account was restricted to posting only in the Coupons sub-forum?
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Atomizer posted:Does "trained to coupons" mean his account was restricted to posting only in the Coupons sub-forum?
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drat, I guess Nvidia doesent make a 32GB Shield K1? I know I can just get the 16 and use a good SD card as internal storage now with 6.0, but that feels kinda sketchy to me...
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:drat, I guess Nvidia doesent make a 32GB Shield K1? I know I can just get the 16 and use a good SD card as internal storage now with 6.0, but that feels kinda sketchy to me... This is what it comes to after years of consumers screaming that they absolutely needed expandable storage, they finally give in and decide it is 'sketchy'. It's the beginning of the end.
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Budgie posted:This is what it comes to after years of consumers screaming that they absolutely needed expandable storage, they finally give in and decide it is 'sketchy'. Expandable storage the way it used to work, when it was basically just for music movies and pictures, is fine. Making it a full blown part of internal storage sounds like your asking for trouble if it dies.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Expandable storage the way it used to work, when it was basically just for music movies and pictures, is fine. Making it a full blown part of internal storage sounds like your asking for trouble if it dies. That and people will buy the absolute shittiest, slowest, cheapest card they can find and then bitch and moan that their phone/tablet is slow.
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Rather than this pretend-the-SD-is-internal malarky google needs a framework where duplicatable application data for large apps (games) can be set to automatically store on the external whilst user-created data and config is stored internally. Google's current philosophy is that it should all be clouded to their servers and local memory wipe should be incidental, though, which is why local getting less reliable is irrelevant. The same device-as-terminal stuff they've always peddled. If your SD card goes when the memory is integrated, pull it, reset the phone to factory, reload from the big G. After all, it's not like you need all that extra space, all your media and photos streamed straight from and to the Google Play cloud, right? give us your data give it to us MikeJF fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 01:21
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But what if I want to play games on my tablet
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Is there a decent Android tablet, preferably 8"+ that does LTE? Nothing big seems to have LTE. I dropped my Asus tablet and broke the digitizer, and I just went with Project Fi, so I'd like to replace it with something that can use it.
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Nvidia Shield is 8" and does LTE
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Have had nothing but problems with my Shield tablet (32 GB LTE model), both pre-recall model and post-recall replacement. Hardware specs look great but usability is terrible - random lag/freezes, poor battery life, weak wifi reception. Bleh.
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Yeah I'm not in love with mine either to be honest. I was about ready to scrap my current one after it had the same sim/wifi problems as my previous one, but somehow it righted itself and I'm still using it. It's pretty ok for most things I guess, but I am pretty much just waiting for the day when it shits itself again.
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Inspector 34 posted:Nvidia Shield is 8" and does LTE Did LTE. You have to find a preowned one as the LTE model was discontinued. I picked one up at Swappa and it works really well, but I've heard a lot of issues with Wifi. I guess I'm lucky enough to have a small living space where I don't notice it. minusX posted:Speaking of issues, my audio issue seems to not exist anymore after installing Android N. I also updated two bug updates in a row last night and forgot to test
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