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https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/742767135437557760 e: a lot of people are going to be disappointed when that Zogby poll turns out to be (gasp!) total bullshit Slate Action fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Vertical Lime posted:somebody wanted a transcript of what obama said today This country is not good enough for Obama.
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Pook Good Mook posted:*Things the average Republican actually believes They know the 2nd, 3rd, and 10th. Everything else is negotiable.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Trump's stance that he is better for the LGBTQ community because he supports the Muslim ban is easily turned for the LGBTQ community. Simply pointing out that "gay immigrants from this area will be forced to remain with ISIS and that they will likely be killed if they are left there" will stop that avenue of attack. The idea is so absurd on its face it doesn't require a spin or response.
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Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/742767135437557760 KS is blue lmao
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zoux posted:The idea is so absurd on its face it doesn't require a spin or response. The rub to that is that is the exact stance the GOP primary candidates took with regards to Trump, and it resulted in them getting steamrollered. The 2 billion dollars in free airtime donated to Trump for President by media companies didn't help them any, of course. So sure, ignore the stupid, but keep a constant pressure and presence against it in general. Otherwise it stands alone, unopposed. Skyl3lazer posted:KS is blue lmao And Utah is teetering, along with most of the South. This is just based on polls (which are still  in predictive capabilities this far out) but as more trickle in expect to see that map look cooler.
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ahahaha oh my god
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That KS poo poo is based on a Zogby poll so you'd probably be OK just shifting all those EVs to red.
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look folks americas got exactly one tool in its kit and thats bombing things, so lets find someone to blow the gently caress up for this
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The actual correct EV map at the moment would just be the 2008 map.
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How does the GOP get away with pretending Obama is not bombing the gently caress out of Isis.
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paranoid randroid posted:look folks americas got exactly one tool in its kit and thats bombing things, so lets find someone to blow the gently caress up for this Well I know a certain Big Dog who has a few ideas where we can start.
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I hate to say it but Hillary is right. We need Jeb!
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Iraq has a lot of nerve letting a US citizen shoot up a gay nightclub like that. Well, fire up the drones.
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euphronius posted:How does the GOP get away with pretending Obama is not bombing the gently caress out of Isis. Because Fox News viewers have no interest in researching or being told otherwise and CNN and the networks are too gun shy to call out any Republican for spouting bullshit for the sake of appearing "balanced."
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euphronius posted:How does the GOP get away with pretending Obama is not bombing the gently caress out of Isis. because he's a secret Kenyan muslam, duh
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https://twitter.com/lisatozzi/status/742782834398625792 Anderson not having it.
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Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/742767135437557760 Take away Florida, Kansas and Arizona (And Ohio!) and Hillary still takes more than enough EVs to win. This is very much not a good map for Donald Trump.
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Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/742767135437557760 Flip Kansas and AZ red and that's the map. I think the best Trump can hope for is pushing Florida red, but VA and and Ohio are going blue this year. This is my opinion and of course I could be wrong since ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN or whatever.
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SuperDucky posted:I am so loving sad that the reports of Al-Baghdadi's death were false. Obama, already the all time leading scorer of killing the gently caress out of terrorists, killing the leader of ISIL the day after a racist, anthropomorphic orange popsicle tried to claim he was in some way a supporter of domestic Islamic terrorism might just have been the greatest political bodyslam of all time.  euphronius posted:There's still time. 
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/lisatozzi/status/742782834398625792 yeah, i like that some are calling out the right on this bullshit. why? how?
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paranoid randroid posted:boosted and baloogan are the only good trump supporters in this forum because even though theyre pretty crazy, they dont pitch a pissy sulk or start screaming racial epithets when people make fun of their dumbass candidate I love both of them.
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Montasque posted:Flip Kansas and AZ red and that's the map. I think Hillary takes AZ. AZ has been trending towards being a swing state/tossup for years now, I think this is the election it becomes competitive. No loving way Kansas is flipping, though, they haven't voted for a Democrat in 80 years. edit: Hillary could lose Florida, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio and Virginia and still win, when your margins have been consistently tight election after election losing swing states like Colorado matters a lot. I don't think anyone is even going to joke about Trump taking Michigan this cycle. Maybe Wisconsin? Probably not. Mirthless fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Montasque posted:Flip Kansas and AZ red and that's the map. I'd want to see some state specific polling to be sure about Ohio. Then again on the flipside Ohio is actually doing fairly well from an unemployment standpoint, even including Cleveland and Akron which pull the state's numbers down (but are going to vote Democrat until the heat death of the universe). But even without Ohio and Florida Clinton still wins with the western states (minus AZ and KS) and VA.
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a dog from hell posted:He has switched parties several times. His last speech enunciated his status as the working man's candidate. This is not a secret reality, but it is one that hasn't been realized yet. We should make it real. whenever you get off probation, i'm curious: what's your opinion of donald j. trump's tax plan?
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paranoid randroid posted:draft for Trump 2016 campaign ad "What's the forecast for the DNC convention?" "Another loser." *cheesy grin* "Sad!"
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Slate Action posted:The actual correct EV map at the moment would just be the 2008 map. i doubt nc is going blue
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Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/742767135437557760 Interesting that the Democratic EVs have a categorical decline (solid blue > strong blue > lean blue), while the GOP EVs are almost exclusively solid or lean (with only Indiana as strong red). It's way early in the GE cycle to rely on polling accuracy, but it does suggest that Trump could be alienating Republican voters who aren't ride-or-die partisans.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I'd want to see some state specific polling to be sure about Ohio. She doesn't even have to take VA. Vertical Lime posted:i doubt nc is going blue It could. 20% of the state is black. Unless Trump starts making some inroads with black voters they could represent a pretty large obstacle for him.
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Mirthless posted:I think Hillary takes AZ. AZ has been trending towards being a swing state/tossup for years now, I think this is the election it becomes competitive. No loving way Kansas is flipping, though, they haven't voted for a Democrat in 80 years. Wisconsin despises Trump with every fiber of its alcoholic being.
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You guys have the wrong read on this entirely. Putin just wanted some fun bathtime reading so he had his agents steal all the info on Trump That or it was actually the Chinese who plan on using it to quash pro-Trump sentiment among their people, or maybe encourage it, I never know with them
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Vladimir Putin posted:What the gently caress is going to emerge from that mess that is more human than Democrats? The fight within that party is the populist Trump supporting part (gently caress them) and the establishment business rich people part. Well, WP thinks we're going to realign like the European parties (populism vs cosmopolitan neoliberalism), but I think both parties are just going to swing back slightly from the economic darkness of Reagan and Bill Clinton.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I love both of them. someday, i hope, i will be lucky enough to call baloogan - my friend.
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I know that the three week string of Trump campaign disasters have driven out most of our own alt-right trolls, but how are Milo, /pol/ and the rest of the alt-right coping?
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Oiled and Ready posted:"What's the forecast for the DNC convention?" lol
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Squizzle posted:Interesting that the Democratic EVs have a categorical decline (solid blue > strong blue > lean blue), while the GOP EVs are almost exclusively solid or lean (with only Indiana as strong red). It's way early in the GE cycle to rely on polling accuracy, but it does suggest that Trump could be alienating Republican voters who aren't ride-or-die partisans. I'm not surprised. Visceral racism is something most people just aren't cool with. Trump's gained a lot of support from working class whites but he's sacrificed support among conservative women and educated whites to do so. The GOP are pretty used to either capturing most white categories altogether, or remaining competitive in those categories, and Trump can't really do that.
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Schnorkles posted:Wisconsin despises Trump with every fiber of its alcoholic being. I can't imagine he's well liked but Wisconsin is one of the toss-up states that is known to trend Republican (like Virginia and NC) so it's at least plausible that they could break for Trump.
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