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This is probably the best guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH0ePK5ia50
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Ddraig posted:Reinhardt isn't going to go down easy unless you catch him by surprise. If he's doing his job, it's going to be harder to take him out as McCree. Yeah I don't mean to imply the nerf doesn't actually do anything. The floor on fan combos just raised a whole lot. I just mean that in a perfect hypothetical, McCree can still burn him down, where before he had considerable slack available. Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Jun 14, 2016 19:13
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those are some good patch notes imho
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Broseph Brostar posted:Winston is my top played, I know exactly what I'm talking about when I say Winston isn't an adequate counter against a good Widow. lmao
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I guess you also have to take into account that some (read: most) McCrees are scrubs and will not wait for the initial FTH to finish before combat rolling, meaning they waste most of the first one.
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Ddraig posted:I guess you also have to take into account that some (read: most) McCrees are scrubs and will not wait for the initial FTH to finish before combat rolling, meaning they waste most of the first one. Yeah McCree was honestly a lot more a floor problem than a ceiling one to me. I'm fine with him still being very strong in good hands. But it was getting annoying that terrible McCrees could still just jump in and force a 1 for 1. Now they'll suffer
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Ddraig posted:This is probably the best guide Thanks. I've seen this one, but still can't do it. For example around 2:20, he starts talking about jumping from wall to wall and chaining wall rides. When I try to just leap from wall to wall (space to leap, hit a wall, hit space again while holding direction towards the other wall), it doesn't catch. I must be doing something wrong. The keypressing is what I am most interested in, which isn't really discussed in detail after mentioning that holding down space allows you to wall ride. Do I need to jump on a wall with space, keep it held down, then when I hit the wall, release space and quickly hit it again while moving in another direction, while once again holding down space, in order to perform this action? I'd like to see one of these videos where they show their hands on the keyboard to really grasp what they are doing, otherwise, not being a smart man, I just can't seem to do it. E: Now that I see his name, I'll see if I can ask him to make a video with the keyboard showing. Maybe that will help. DrSeRRoD fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Macaluso posted:A reasonable nerf would be removing Widowmaker from the game actually My god shutup. Learn to deal with different heroes instead of bitching all the time.
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Easy Mac posted:My god shutup. Learn to deal with different heroes instead of bitching all the time. Or maybe it's possible that sniping doesn't have a reasonable position inside a game with map and objective design such as Overwatch and will always be a power problem on either end of the spectrum no matter what Maybe, just maybe, having a dedicated sniper is a bad idea
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a cat on an apple posted:Or maybe it's possible that sniping doesn't have a reasonable position inside a game with map and objective design such as Overwatch and will always be a power problem on either end of the spectrum no matter what Nah.
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Dias posted:Nah, that's about right. Do your own thing, bop people with hadoukens, skate around and UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF LOVE Don't forget that you've gotta make a STATEMENT OF INTENT
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a cat on an apple posted:Or maybe it's possible that sniping doesn't have a reasonable position inside a game with map and objective design such as Overwatch and will always be a power problem on either end of the spectrum no matter what Maybe, but not really.
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Easy Mac posted:My god shutup. Learn to deal with different heroes instead of bitching all the time. All the other heroes are good and fun though. Widow is bad cause snipers are bad and farty 
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Gonna load of the Jetset Radio Future soundtrack and play some Lucio today. UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTAND.
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Batham posted:If you're half decent as Widow these changes will almost mean jack poo poo to you. You have no idea what you are talking about. Was just watching Reaver in a pub, and even for a high-skilled (maybe the best in the world?) widow, these changes are pretty huge. Yes he was still really, really good and killed a lot of people, but it had a huge effect on his mobility and the damage nerf has enormous implications as well. A few big things that come to mind: * You are much more vulnerable to Genji since you can't quick-scope while jumping around, not to mention the damage nerf. * You can't one-shot a tracer anymore with a body-shot (this might actually be huge, will be interesting to see if Tracer has a resurgence). * Vision was nerfed by 10%, but damage was also nerfed, so it will be up something like 20% less. * Mercy-boosted shots now do a LOT less damage since it is 30% damage increase. Hell you can't even one-shot a 200hp hero with discord now with a body shot! subx fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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I can't wait to outsnipe a bunch of Widows with Zenyatta tonight
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I can't wait for people to bitch about Tracer as much as they used to bitch about McCree
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Listen, all these Widow changes may sound good on paper, but they do nothing against aimbotting Widows, which is incidentally every Widow who manages to kill me ever.
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Jun 14, 2016 19:49
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figures we get a new thread title and they turn around and immediately nerf widow, making us look silly
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Zorodius posted:I can't wait for people to bitch about Tracer as much as they used to bitch about McCree Funny thing is that Tracer used to be bitched about a lot back in beta when match-making was sketchy at best because of the tiny player pool. You got paired against pro's quite a bit if you were decent, and some of those people were ridiculous (play against Surefore(sp?) sometime on Tracer, gently caress that noise), but the bitching died down a lot once matchmaking got better.
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Widowmaker needed tuning and got it, people are still complaining because they are bad and said people won't be happy until she's literally removed from the game, at which point they'll find another character to whine about the the beautiful cycle continues.
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Mystery Machine posted:Gonna load of the Jetset Radio Future soundtrack and play some Lucio today. They need to make up for McCree's nerfs by giving him a skateboard, so I can also do this with the THPS OST. SO HERE I AM HUNTING TRACERS ALL THE TIME FANNING WINSTONS ALL THE TIME IT'S ALWAYS HIGH NOON IN MY MIND
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Mystery Machine posted:Gonna load of the Jetset Radio Future soundtrack and play some Lucio today. Just be sure to skip Birthday Cake. SHUT UP AND EAT YOU KNOW MY LOVE IS SWEET It's not featured on the soundtrack album, but a playful trickster may have added it to a JSR playlist on Spotify 
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Kerrrrrrr posted:figures we get a new thread title and they turn around and immediately nerf widow, making us look silly I was reasonably confident the patch was coming today, that's what the joke is. (The last title was also a joke, just a semi-useful one.)
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subx posted:You have no idea what you are talking about. Was just watching Reaver in a pub, and even for a high-skilled (maybe the best in the world?) widow, these changes are pretty huge. i guess theyll have to learn to aim for the head
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Overwatch: Try countering Widowmaker as Jeff Kaplan
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This patch is good, in my opinion.
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whining goons: "this skill-based shooting game shouldn't have a skill-based shooting hero!"
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yard salad posted:whining goons: "this skill-based shooting game shouldn't have a skill-based shooting hero!" It should, this is why they nerfed Widow and McCree.
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Kerrrrrrr posted:figures we get a new thread title and they turn around and immediately nerf widow, making us look silly "Try countering Widowmaker by updating your game."
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yard salad posted:whining goons: "this skill-based shooting game shouldn't have a skill-based shooting hero!" Actually you'll find that Widow is a no-skill wallhack aimbot casualmode hero that anybody can rack up kills with, except when I'm playing her because I am the only person of integrity on Battle.net who doesn't cheat at Overwatch.
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exquisite tea posted:Actually you'll find that Widow is a no-skill wallhack aimbot casualmode hero that anybody can rack up kills with, except when I'm playing her because I am the only person of integrity on Battle.net who doesn't cheat at Overwatch. same
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Is...is this how the poor Dota 2 goons felt during all these years? Oh my god, I didn't know. I didn't know at all. Forgive me for judging you.
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exquisite tea posted:Actually you'll find that Widow is a no-skill wallhack aimbot casualmode hero that anybody can rack up kills with, except when I'm playing her because I am the only person of integrity on Battle.net who doesn't cheat at Overwatch. what character do these kinds of people play
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exquisite tea posted:Actually you'll find that Widow is a no-skill wallhack aimbot casualmode hero that anybody can rack up kills with, except when I'm playing her because I am the only person of integrity on Battle.net who doesn't cheat at Overwatch. Same. Picked up Overwatch this weekend. It has been goon fun. Curious to see how I do against Mcree's tonight after he got Woah There'd.
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It's kind of shocking how almost halving McCree's damage hasn't made that huge a difference to him. At least now Tanks stand a chance.
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I dropped my sensitivity a lot and it seems it helped my tracking a lot. I'm sitting at 1750 DPI and 6 sensitivity in-game, but a 180 is about half of my mousepad which feels like a bit too much to cover. Is this about where I should be if I want to be a **pro gamer**?
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Also someone please control my brother he's saying Mei both destroys McCree and is a better pick in pub play.
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