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sean10mm posted:When your success depends on pandering to the lowest common denominator of racist white garbage, at some point someone was going to realize that they could derail the whole thing by openly promising what everyone else was just hinting at.
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zoux posted:Now that we don't have a SCOTUS dedicated to forwarding the Republican agenda, our chances got a lot better. and the other thing
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Naga Warlord posted:Here's the full context of that quote: Scalia was very happy to rule in favor of gay marriage equality. "Applesauce" he said, jubilantly!
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I found it shocking at the time that the Gay Marriage decision was 5-4 when the Obamacare decision was 6-3.
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Evil Fluffy posted:In non gunchat news US Appeals court sided with Net Neutrality: This is awesome and I hope it is a sign of things to come.
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RuanGacho posted:This is awesome and I hope it is a sign of things to come. Well then I've got some good news for you. https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/742775258948767744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Jun 14, 2016 20:42
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Shageletic posted:Its a public health issue. Liberalism (progressivism) from its earliest days have been associated with public health causes. There are certainly public health aspects. Mandatory safety training, universal background checks and safe storage all fit in from a liberal standpoint. Banning private ownership of weapons is a way more prescriptive an approach than makes sense in that framework though. It would be equivalent to banning alcohol or tobacco or installing governors on all cars to cap them at 65mph.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well then I've got some good news for you. A reminder, here's Trump QUOTE on that quote:Obama’s attack on the internet is another top down power grab. Net neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine. Will target conservative media.
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theflyingorc posted:Well, it wouldn't have worked if everyone else wasn't divided, which is part of what I think they were banking on. There were never enough Trump supporters to get a majority until the only other choice was Ted goddamn Cruz. The big mass of candidates certainly helped Trump, but the divisions go right through the GOP primary electorate itself. The GOP beating down Trump would have required the religious fanatic minority and the business vermin minority to unite behind a candidate who both were enthusiastic about to out-vote the white bigoted human garbage minority that Trump controlled. Only thing is, there was no such person. Cruz was only liked by the religious nutbars, Rubio and Bush were pure establishment puppets, and nobody gave a poo poo about Kasich either way. There was no George W. Bush to say the nice stuff involving Jesus while still pleasing business and sounding like an approximation of a human.
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Wakko posted:There are certainly public health aspects. Mandatory safety training, universal background checks and safe storage all fit in from a liberal standpoint. Banning private ownership of weapons is a way more prescriptive an approach than makes sense in that framework though. It would be equivalent to banning alcohol or tobacco or installing governors on all cars to cap them at 65mph. Actually, given the extremely high rates at which white men use guns in lethal autoselfdefense, banning the private ownership of handguns or requiring them to be kept at a licensed shooting range, at a very minimum, is a major public health interest.
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^^^ This guy gets it ^^^Wakko posted:There are certainly public health aspects. Mandatory safety training, universal background checks and safe storage all fit in from a liberal standpoint. Banning private ownership of weapons is a way more prescriptive an approach than makes sense in that framework though. It would be equivalent to banning alcohol or tobacco or installing governors on all cars to cap them at 65mph. Which is why reasonable gun control are things like safety training, universal background checks, and heavily restricting handguns instead of just banning all guns outright.
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Disney donates $1 million to help after Pulse shooting as city creates fundquote:Mayor Buddy Dyer announced the One Orlando fund at Monday night's vigil at the Dr. Phillip's Center for the Performing Arts, including a $500,000 donation from Darden Restaurants, and $100,000 donations from air carrier JetBlue and the Orlando Magic. e; 
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Wakko posted:I see this as overly simplistic. I don't think due process shares any responsibility for not convicting a mugger of the future crime of murder. Show me speech that's designed to literally kill the recipient (ala BLIT) and maybe I'll argue it should be regulated like guns.
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There is a ton of gay cast that frequented that club and I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit to find out that a few cast members were victims.
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Wakko posted:There are certainly public health aspects. Mandatory safety training, universal background checks and safe storage all fit in from a liberal standpoint. Banning private ownership of weapons is a way more prescriptive an approach than makes sense in that framework though. It would be equivalent to banning alcohol or tobacco or installing governors on all cars to cap them at 65mph. Are you confusing libertarianism with liberalism? Because the latter two positions are not intrinsically at odds with what is traditionally defined as liberalism or progressivism, and the former was in fact championed by its more fervent 20th century supporters. John Locke wrote about liberty yes, but he also wrote about the protection of lives as being the other central tenet of governance. The inviolability of gun rights is a relatively recent phenomena, and certainly not one believed in by those who disagree with Heller.
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A Winner is Jew posted:There is a ton of gay cast that frequented that club and I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit to find out that a few cast members were victims. JK Rowling tweeted a picture of a member of the HP Experience who was shot.
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Neat, I've got a little extra cash and was thinking about getting some carry out tonight, maybe I'll get some Olive Garden
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Shageletic posted:Are you confusing libertarianism with liberalism? Because the latter two positions are not intrinsically at odds with what is traditionally defined as liberalism or progressivism, and the former was in fact championed by its more fervent 20th century supporters. Reminder that Republicans supported Gun Control for years, with no ideological problems.
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A Winner is Jew posted:There is a ton of gay cast that frequented that club and I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit to find out that a few cast members were victims. There were at least one cast member and another couple who worked in Tomorrowland and the Harry Potter ride. JK Rowling wrote an effecting eulogy for the latter. EDIT: quote:Luis Vielma worked on the Harry Potter ride at Universal. He was 22 years old. I can't stop crying. #Orlando pic.twitter.com/Nz2ZCWxNsS Shageletic fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Is Disney pretty good on gay issues (you know for a multi national faceless corporate machine)? I know they had unofficial "Gay Days" in the park for years and years even before public opinion changed, but as far as their policies?
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gonna just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_mfsInJjY
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zoux posted:Is Disney pretty good on gay issues (you know for a multi national faceless corporate machine)? I know they had unofficial "Gay Days" in the park for years and years even before public opinion changed, but as far as their policies? They're an evil corporation who treat their workers like poo poo, but they don't discriminate.
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Shageletic posted:A reminder, here's Trump QUOTE on that Thanks, I was looking for this the other day when someone asked him about "Brexit" and for once he had the brains to ask for clarification about what the gently caress the term meant (which was also pretty damning) before launching down an answer that clearly indicates he hasn't the foggiest idea what he's angrily talking about.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well then I've got some good news for you. Next up: the fight over banning the ISPs from selling or using customer browsing habits for any purpose other than maintaining their network.
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zoux posted:Is Disney pretty good on gay issues (you know for a multi national faceless corporate machine)? I know they had unofficial "Gay Days" in the park for years and years even before public opinion changed, but as far as their policies? They don't discriminate against LGBT as far as I know, just Soviet premiers and filthy hippies. Gay Days isn't organized by Disney but their policy has been to treat it like any other day.
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Shageletic posted:A reminder, here's Trump QUOTE on that The Heck. Man that is a pretty stunning misunderstanding of the most basic aspects of the issue.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:57
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showbiz_liz posted:The Heck. Man that is a pretty stunning misunderstanding of the most basic aspects of the issue. Odd use of the definite article there.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They're an evil corporation who treat their workers like poo poo, but they don't discriminate. Not just don't discriminate, but they're actually pretty supportive since if you show up to a park with a red shirt during gay days (traditionally this meant you were gay or supportive) and you didn't want to identify as that you could go to city hall and they would give you a non red Disney shirt for free. They've also sold these for loving years: 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:
From what I understand, they've been snapping up legit good writers at bargain rates because people who write about things from a position of consistency and intelligent analysis aren't in demand atm
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Epic High Five posted:From what I understand, they've been snapping up legit good writers at bargain rates because people who write about things from a position of consistency and intelligent analysis aren't in demand atm Yeah, plus their leader (Holly Anderson) is loving amazing.
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Shageletic posted:Are you confusing libertarianism with liberalism? Because the latter two positions are not intrinsically at odds with what is traditionally defined as liberalism or progressivism, and the former was in fact championed by its more fervent 20th century supporters. John Locke also had to flee England for literally conspiring to violently overthrow the monarchy, no? Were you to get his take on how successful the modern US government is at protecting the lives of its people vs. contemporary governments of his time, or even just the remaining distance it has to go to create a perfectly safe society, is it realistic to argue he would consider abolishing private ownership of arms to be in the interests of liberty and equality?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Yeah, plus their leader (Holly Anderson) is loving amazing. Haha no poo poo? Yeah gonna have to work MTV Politics into my rotation, shame I've been ignoring them up until now but all things considered they should've rebranded if they want the >30 like me to stumble on them BI NOW GAY LATER posted:God he's fucker What the absolute gently caress
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I fully expect to eventually hear the phrase "it was an American club."
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STAC Goat posted:I fully expect to eventually hear the phrase "it was an American club." Not quite. https://twitter.com/dnewhauser/status/742809565763362817
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STAC Goat posted:I fully expect to eventually hear the phrase "it was an American club." It's been a not-uncommon refrain among Very Serious People and conservatives that it was an attack on Freedom, not on gays. By splitting it this way, they can hate both muslims and gays at once.
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I don't know anything about the case but, the story says it's a private school so if they get a significant judgment against it, the school will likely just file for bankruptcy and then reopen under a new name. I, unfortunately, doubt that the victim or her family will ever see any restitution from this. Also doubtful that any criminal charges will ever be filed. Another day in America.
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Holy gently caress, how does the school even HOPE to defend this.