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Welp - https://www.breakingnews.com/topic/uefa-euro-2016/ quote:UEFA gives Russia suspended disqualification from Euro 2016 and €150,000 fine for trouble in game against England - ESPN 29 Russian fans will be escorted out of France for violence and hooliganism.
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Well, it's a start: next up, they should get suspended from politics and escorted out of Ukraine.
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Jun 14, 2016 13:55
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:150 trained Russian hooligans responsible for most of the violence in Marseille. That's a strange choice of word, 'trained'. It implies that there's some outside entity (Russian military or secret police  ) training hooligans. If they didn't want to imply that then they should've gone with 'hard core', 'experienced', 'veteran', etc. Other major football tournaments also had some uruk hai hooligans.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:21
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Doctor Malaver posted:That's a strange choice of word, 'trained'. It implies that there's some outside entity (Russian military or secret police Anyone with actual first hand (or at least in-country) knowledge of Eastern European hooligans?
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Jun 14, 2016 15:40
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In Poland at least there's a "hooligan league" where groups set up skirmishes (along with rules what weapons are allowed for a given fight and expected group size) and assign each other points for who won. The meet-ups are often connected to their team's friendly matches, but not necessarily, if there's a period of boredom. They're often pretty chill towards each other post-battle (as opposed to intra-city semi-criminal rivalry, where you can get your head macheted off).
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Jun 14, 2016 15:53
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Regrettably, the only guy involved with this poo poo first-hand got interested in hooliganish things after we lost contact. Back when I knew him as an acquaintance, he was heavily involved in ONR, which was a source of fun stories on its own.
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There's an interesting conspiracy theory regarding those Russian football fans. Some people say that Putin has allowed the more aggressive ones to go to France in hopes or with his specific order to stir up enough poo poo that the next World Championship won't be in Russia, because there's simply not enough money to host it. It also would help to perpetuate already popular ideas that a) Russia strong and can totally take decadent Europe in a fight, b) the West doesn't want good things happening to Russia. It is really , but if everything pans out right, conspiracy or not, Putin can definitely profit from it.
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Imagine the amount of courage needed to travel to Football World Cup in Russia to cheer for your team when said team plays Russia. Now imagine your team wins... That's some Warriors poo poo..
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Doctor Malaver posted:That's a strange choice of word, 'trained'. It implies that there's some outside entity (Russian military or secret police A Buttery Pastry posted:Going off one documentary about Eastern European hooliganism I saw, trained doesn't seem entirely inappropriate. Like, they seemed to train as much for the clashes with the other side's hooligans as the players did for their matches, at least that's how I remember it. And occasionally arranged fights without there even being any match to fight over. Seemed especially serious in Russia.
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Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trumpquote:Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b7a0_story.html Finally we will get to know Trump's glove size.
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Rincewinds posted:Finally we will get to know Trump's glove size. Lichtenstein posted:In Poland at least there's a "hooligan league" where groups set up skirmishes (along with rules what weapons are allowed for a given fight and expected group size) and assign each other points for who won. The meet-ups are often connected to their team's friendly matches, but not necessarily, if there's a period of boredom. They're often pretty chill towards each other post-battle (as opposed to intra-city semi-criminal rivalry, where you can get your head macheted off). kalstrams posted:Further north-east from Poland it's not as organised as in Poland, I'd say, but there nonetheless are training skirmishes and such, and the whole collective gym going etc. Same people sometimes also have a hand in shady "business" stuff, so just saying "trained Russian hooligans" is one of the most believable things you can say about them. Trained on Putin's orders by military or something is a conspiracy theory as good as any other, without proof, but claiming that radical Eastern European sports fans lack organisation is just a work of fiction, in my opinion. alex314 posted:Imagine the amount of courage needed to travel to Football World Cup in Russia to cheer for your team when said team plays Russia. Now imagine your team wins... That's some Warriors poo poo..
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Some better news: NATO plans to station more troops along the Russian border and generally in the East. Nothing is official right now, since the great NATO-summit is planned for July, but the plans for a battalion for each Eastern country is already mostly done. The USA will provide most of the troops for the additional battalion in Poland, the UK will take over the battalion in Estonia, Canada will take Latvia and Germany Lithuania. Oh, and there are talks to put another formation into Romania, just to be sure. This stationing of troops will be an inofficial rotation and not a real stationing. In answer to this, Putin has ordered the Russian Army to check their operational readiness. According to Putin, this is just a coincidence, it's not really meant as a direct answer to the non-stationing of NATO-troops along the Russian border. Looks like things are heating up again!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Having read this thread, and its previous iterations, this is clearly just Putin collecting kompromat on Trump so they can do great deals with each other, and give him a heads up for the coming campaign so Clinton doesn't win. In the GOP election thread the consensus was if Russia did steal that data (and the Russians naturally emphatically deny it), they wouldn't disclose it to anyone, but keep it for ??? Their own edification apparently. Ukraine and Canada will hold an economic forum on June 20. http://www.kyivpost.com/article/con...campaign=buffer quote:Ukraine's next big free trade agreement is likely to come soon with Canada, with an agreement signed this summer after a June 20 business conference in Toronto. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to visit Ukraine in July.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:In the GOP election thread the consensus was if Russia did steal that data (and the Russians naturally emphatically deny it), they wouldn't disclose it to anyone, but keep it for ??? Their own edification apparently. Considering how connected Trump is to the Kremlin (for instance, his campaign manager got Yanukovich to oust Timoshenko in Ukraine) and how badly they want someone other than Hilary to weaken NATO and the sanctions, they would definitely be sharing that information.
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Young Freud posted:Considering how connected Trump is to the Kremlin (for instance, his campaign manager got Yanukovich to oust Timoshenko in Ukraine) and how badly they want someone other than Hilary to weaken NATO and the sanctions, they would definitely be sharing that information.
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Here's some EE flava for y'all. A truck driver in Poland stopped for the night at a service stop on a highway. A bit drunk already, he left his truck open and went to take a leak. Upon returning he discovered that the truck, with a major cash bundle in the cab and $0,5mln worth of merchandise in the trailer had been stolen! He instructed a service center employee to call the cops and went back to the toilet. Wherein the police found him a bit later hanged by the neck. What the police found next was that the truck, opened but untouched was parked on the other side of the road on a very similar parking. The owner of the truck, when informed, had this to say: "there wasn't even that much cash or cargo as the driver had thought".
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Jun 15, 2016 07:32
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Poland Man truly is the Florida Man of europe.
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Lichtenstein posted:In Poland at least there's a "hooligan league" where groups set up skirmishes (along with rules what weapons are allowed for a given fight and expected group size) and assign each other points for who won. The meet-ups are often connected to their team's friendly matches, but not necessarily, if there's a period of boredom. They're often pretty chill towards each other post-battle (as opposed to intra-city semi-criminal rivalry, where you can get your head macheted off). I drank with a dude who was a Lech Poznan hooligan once! Pretty relaxed guy, honestly, I assume he just gets all the hostility out of his system at footbrawls.
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Pierogi posted:Here's some EE flava for y'all. gently caress that's dark.
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quote:....Canadian business to understand the impact of reform measures that have been implemented by Ukraine to date.... Somehow I'm not feeling optimistic about such statements.
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Rincewinds posted:Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump I'm pretty sure they're doing this so they can give that information to the Trump campaign. Putin has been trolling pretty hard for a Trump victory because he knows it'll gently caress America up.
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Polish on facebook are posting stuff like this before the big match between the Polish and German team. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Polish on facebook are posting stuff like this before the big match between the Polish and German team.
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Pierogi posted:Here's some EE flava for y'all. It's like the end of The Mist. I hope they add this feature to Euro Truck Simulator 3.
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First Crimea, now being humiliated by Northern Ireland, poor Ukraine. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Polish on facebook are posting stuff like this before the big match between the Polish and German team. Good to see the Poles worshipping the ancient birch tree from which the first Pole hatched after being clutched by a black goat.
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So, apparently, Phillips did sneak into Latvia despite being on the black list for entrance to the country, made a bunch of photos and poo poo, and got out. Authorities can confirm that he has left the country by now, and refuse to give any comments about his entry.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Polish on facebook are posting stuff like this before the big match between the Polish and German team. I love poo poo like this. It reminds me of that art someone did back when Russia first invaded Ukraine of a noble slavic dude and his good Chinese buddy stranding together against the mighty and clearly nefarious Western hydra. What's it say?
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Nilbop posted:I love poo poo like this. It reminds me of that art someone did back when Russia first invaded Ukraine of a noble slavic dude and his good Chinese buddy stranding together against the mighty and clearly nefarious Western hydra. We won't forsake the land we came from, We won't let our speech be buried. We are the Polish nation, the Polish people, From the royal line of Piast.
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The_Franz posted:We won't forsake the land we came from, They could have just posted the condensed original German version of that prayer. It's only about half as many words long! 29/2 = 14 rounding down, 14 words Admittedly the picture wasn't really white supremacist in any way but hardcore football fans posting that kind of "Poland for Poles" nationalism and white supremacists have significant overlap. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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It's a part of "Rota", very anti-german song that was created early 20th century in response to a campaign of prosecution of Poles. It almost ended up as a national anthem, would be pretty awkward.. I've seen better copypasta taking rounds. It's structured as a prayer where someone asks God why he favours Germans, and that it sucks to be poor. And it's not fair because they've destroyed Europe and we keep our faith, and we even elected right wing government. But if we tie 2:2 we promise to stop making fun of Terlikowski (crazy as gently caress right wing shithead) and throw Nergal into volcano. I doubt the author considered possibility of a tie.
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I liked how the other state channel had an adaptation of Sienkiewicz's Teutonic Knights during the match. 
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alex314 posted:It's a part of "Rota", very anti-german song that was created early 20th century in response to a campaign of prosecution of Poles. It almost ended up as a national anthem, would be pretty awkward.. Please link it, I just have to see it.
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alex314 posted:It's a part of "Rota", very anti-german song that was created early 20th century in response to a campaign of prosecution of Poles. It almost ended up as a national anthem, would be pretty awkward.
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Aumanor posted:Please link it, I just have to see it. I'm assuming he meant this one.
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alex314 posted:It's a part of "Rota", very anti-german song that was created early 20th century in response to a campaign of prosecution of Poles. It almost ended up as a national anthem, would be pretty awkward.. It's hardly unprecedented. The American anthem officially has "Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution." in one of the verses still.
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mmkay posted:I'm assuming he meant this one. Yup, I've remembered some parts wrong 
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fishmech posted:It's hardly unprecedented. The American anthem officially has "Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution." in one of the verses still. Which anthem is that?
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Nitrox posted:Which anthem is that? And where is that band who so vauntingly swore That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion, A home and a country, should leave us no more? Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution. No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave: And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave, O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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