Justin Tyme posted:head of marketing.... big marketing event.... isn't dev so can't present... but head of marketing.... marketing event.... at e3..... but too busy to not go do marketing but not so busy you can send head of marketing to marketing event but can't market they cannot accept any wrongdoing or they have to question the whole thing - and most of them have probably already accepted the new tos, also shilllllllllsssss everywheree
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alf_pogs posted:dude considering the mental gymnastics going on for worse conduct, this would barely constitute as flexing Oooh, I get that. I just find it amusing as hell that they can't stick to their word about anything at all. Even not doing a thing. Is it possible for them to not lie?
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Nation posted:they cannot accept any wrongdoing or they have to question the whole thing - and most of them have probably already accepted the new tos, also shilllllllllsssss everywheree Yeah that's pretty loving blatant so it's gotta be some sort of mental blocking/coping, like there is no possible way to explain it without acknowledging SQ42 is nowhere near playable otherwise they'd just have someone play through a mission for a bit like... you know, COD did. It would take what, like 10 minutes to add in a black screen fade in/fade out trigger to a level? Just run a map through the console/dev tools, add in a box trigger at the end of the demonstration to fade the screen to black, it boggles the mind.... (the reason they didn't/don't do this is because SQ42 is a complete mess in development hell)
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Bmac32 posted:Oooh, I get that. I just find it amusing as hell that they can't stick to their word about anything at all. Even not doing a thing. i too am happy riding the laffo train from station to station. it never ends!
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Deedrix posted:It's genric, sorry guys. Quality products all around! Bmac32 posted:Is it possible for them to not lie? But they are not lying. I mean, the sky does look green to them, and the sun is cold. It's not a lie if you truly, truly believe. trucutru fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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 http://www.vrfocus.com/2016/06/elite-dangerous-devs-frontier-developments-partner-with-joystick-makers-thrustmaster/ 
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Jun 15, 2016 07:05
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SelenicMartian posted:I'd like to remind everyone that this gif exists. In the same league as Kayak and Kitsa.
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Never forget this one: Hat tip: Tippis
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Deedrix posted:
What happened to the MadCatz and Star Citizen Shitck?
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Jun 15, 2016 07:16
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no_recall posted:What happened to the MadCatz and Star Citizen Shitck? Most likely  http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/8/10939752/mad-catz-executive-board-changes-rock-band-4-earnings
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Jobbo_Fett posted:So does that mean that Star Citizen is literally a mile wide but an inch deep? It was, until they took 3 days to turn off the water plane, now it's just a waste of space 
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Jun 15, 2016 07:38
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Justin Tyme posted:head of marketing.... big marketing event.... isn't dev so can't present... but head of marketing.... marketing event.... at e3..... but too busy to not go do marketing but not so busy you can send head of marketing to marketing event but can't market Reddit yesterday: It's stupid to go to E3 it's just a big marketing pow wow anyways, and CIG doesn't need to market SC at all. Reddit today: Of course the VP OF MARKETING would go to have meetings with big name companies for cross promotional and marketing purposes!!! Idiot!
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Xaerael posted:"Meetings" at E3. CIG buyout imminent. "Meetings" at E3. aka CIG tracking down the AMD CEO at the PCGames Show and asking her to stop pushing for a demo. redwalrus fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Deedrix posted:Most likely I looked up their last conference call out of curiosity a week or so ago. They were talking rather boldly about the prospects of the CIG partnership. Posted some of the transcripts on Discord. quote:Edward Ericsson "Fortunately Squadron 42 sees release Q4 of this year and my gut says Star Citizen is done Q4 of 2017! (My gut is rarely wrong about these things!)" -- RSI Forums G0RF fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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So this post got me thinking about this RSI article: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13951-Flight-Model-And-Input-Controls Where they talk about how each ship will have an advanced PID flight control system. Not as in they, the devs, will do some PID napkin calculations and use those to set up ship steering parameters. As in the game holds the ship, and the in-game ship has a PID flight control system that reads user flight control input, calculates desired vs actual state, adds to an accumulated error, and calculates required forces and torques. Once your in-game ship does these calculations, it analyzes the mass distribution and thruster placement on your ship (talking into account any lost/damaged wings, thrusters, etc.), then goes through a priority list (main forward thrust, p/r/y, lateral movement) assigning power outputs. Then your ship simulates those power delegations and sends power to thrusters/reaction wheels. Then it simulates those things making the ship move, then simulates that being a little off, then checks desired vs actual output again. They honestly thought this would be a thing they could do. Hypothetically they could create a generic PID system that they could plug in to ships as they built them. But why the gently caress would you waste cpu cycles doing this poo poo in real time for every ship? "Quick, simulate that the physics are a bit off, then calculate what it would take to correct for that." I get that the broken engine fixing mini game and whatnot might sound fun, but honestly, a loving PID controller that no one will notice is present until they check this game's CPU consumption? PID is only necessary for real life physical objects. Because in real life things don't respond exactly as you'd like, so you need to monitor output and adjust input. Imagine if a game gave characters cameras, then had the cameras actually simulate anti shake technology and red eye reduction. Shaky hands and red eye are real world problems that only exist in game if they're put in game. Why would you put them in game just to simulate correcting them in game? Edit: tldr Let's up the fidelity by making our physics imperfect, then simulate simulating corrections to the problem.
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Junk Puncher posted:So this post got me thinking about this RSI article: Cause CR knows all about game development. Everything must be real and immersive and fideliteous.
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G0RF posted:I looked up their last conference call out of curiosity a week or so ago. They were talking rather boldly about the prospects of the CIG partnership. Posted some of the transcripts on Discord. Lol if they're hedging their bets on making money from the lovely crossbranded peripherals releasing this year around Christmas, I wonder just how hosed their planning would be when SC gets canned or significantly pushed back.
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Streetroller posted:It really has and had nothing to do with Goons, or Derek. He posts on forums.somethingawful.com in Derek Smart's House of Star Citizen Obsessive Insanity.
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Justin Tyme posted:Lol if they're hedging their bets on making money from the lovely crossbranded peripherals releasing this year around Christmas, I wonder just how hosed their planning would be when SC gets canned or significantly pushed back. And let's not forget: The ships in SC are best controlled via mouse. No signs of a change to that.
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Madcats are OK products but they have a real skill at hitching their products to games that never take off, like Titanfall or a Rock Band game in 2016. Thrustmaster joysticks are exceptional.
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fnox posted:I like how Parpy Oldman is supposed to have a cloth uniform, but since the geometry is entirely smooth it looks like its literally made out of a plastic mold he's just sticking his head out of. Please do not make fun of the fidelity. It's the only bit of the game that's finished and Chris will say redo it.
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Streetroller posted:I'm not really looking at it from the "Goon" perspective honestly. I'm just a really busy person IRL. Full disclosure: Everyone here is still an idiot, the big difference is that we're not happy giving our money to an even bigger idiot  And you're right it's not a "goon" perspective, it's just the perspective of someone with the sort of healthy scepticism that any normal person should have when someone who's not produced anything worthwhile in the last 15 years comes to you asking for thousands of dollars to make all your video game dreams come true. The only reason it's so prevalent on here is that it's such a loving funny disaster that it draws us in, if CR could fail in a more boring we wouldn't even care, but it's just so wonderful to watch. Glad you've become a sceptic about this project, you now get to enjoy the wonderful position the rest of us have found ourselves in: If CR fails as he appears to be trying so hard to do, we get to laugh and joke about it. If he some how succeeds, we have the option to just buy the game at release and enjoy it with everyone else.
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TTerrible posted:He posts on forums.somethingawful.com in Derek Smart's House of Star Citizen Obsessive Insanity. I posted here because the CIG reddit was mocking you and ironically found it to be a much more centered community... gently caress it. Fine, you've swayed me. I'm a big loving Goon, I was just too afraid and Goonaphobic before to admit it.
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Streetroller posted:I posted here because the CIG reddit was mocking you and ironically found it to be a much more centered community... Welcome goonbrother. The pledging to Professor Smart is scheduled for midnight.
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Streetroller posted:I like seeing people argue saying that CIG's ToS is no different than any other gaming company. Slam dunk post, here it is on another page.
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Deedrix posted:It's genric, sorry guys. Reroll went bust I think and could have lifted the TOS from somewhere else. http://www.turbulent.ca/our-portfolio/308-warhammer-40-000-eternal-crusade Turbulent provided the infrastructure for Behaviour Interactive’s new Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade website. Crowfall & shroud of the avatar were both plugged on RSI website, star citizen kickstarter was hosted at richard garriotts' offices (shroud of the avatar) in Austin. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14579-Note-From-The-Chairman-Crowfall-Descent https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/12951-Back-SotA-Get-A-Crossbow-In-Star-Citizen Turbulent & Behaviour are contractors working on Star Citizen. http://www.pcgamer.com/crowfall-preview-an-mmo-you-can-win-again-and-again/ David Swofford is involved with crowfall https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=26862 David Swofford is involved with shroud of the avatar David Swofford is Communications Director at CIG. A media piece a couple of years ago spoke about CIG & Turbulent putting together a service to sell to other game companies to kickstart projects, the TOS might be part of that. Not sure I remember what the piece looked like now but it's mentioned in one of the old threads. http://crowdfunding.cmf-fmc.ca/case_studies/star-citizen quote:Is that to say that this platform would generate the same level of success in the case of any other project? Probably not, because the exceptional Star Citizen project was spearheaded by a person whose credibility in the field is beyond reproach. The platform alone, without the buzz generated by the initial campaign on Kickstarter or the project creators’ ability to use a continuous flow of news and information to focus attention on the project, could have ended up being nothing more than a hollow shell.
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AP posted:http://www.pcgamer.com/crowfall-preview-an-mmo-you-can-win-again-and-again/ David Swofford is involved with crowfall This is good.
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Junk Puncher posted:So this post got me thinking about this RSI article: Do we know if the PID controller algorithms are actually working in the game? I mean judging by the borked physics and balsa wood you can see in AC and the PU (and looking back to all the issues to date with flight physics, cutlass issues etc) I suspect the fideliteh in this area has been completely dropped or cheated to death too. BFCSSE, Best loving Cheat Space Sim Ever. MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Streetroller posted:I posted here because the CIG reddit was mocking you and ironically found it to be a much more centered community... There's a process to follow here, you don't see it much anymore but it used to happened a lot. You'd realise you'd been conned by CIG, you'd get your money back then you'd post what you bought with the money, then you'd sit back shitpost and enjoy the ongoing drama.
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Mr. Roberts, you have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?
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Streetroller posted:I posted here because the CIG reddit was mocking you and ironically found it to be a much more centered community... "Goon" literally just means someone who posts on these forums so yeah, sorry but you're branded for life. If you've not done so already I certainly suggest reading other threads on here about other games or topics you're interested in - this thread is pretty unusual in the level of goon tribalism to be honest. Most threads have a variety of opinions and discussions and a huge number of video game threads have actual developers taking part. I mean technically this thread also has developers taking part but it's not really the same 
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Hell the only reason said tribalism exists is because there's an entire community out there that's made us into some kind of bogeyman because we make fun of a failing developer they backed.
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I like this thread, chock full of COD fear https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4o1qtx/lets_talk_about_call_of_duty/ Imagine being afraid of a game because it will make your game look bad, instead of being happy you have another game to play. 
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. Could we get a screenie? Some of us just got blocked from Sandi's feed. (GO ME!)
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Hell the only reason said tribalism exists is because there's an entire community out there that's made us into some kind of bogeyman because we make fun of a failing developer they backed. Yeah, I mean everyone loves playing the bad guy sometimes so we embrace this sort of thing when it happens, but we end up being like this because people say we're like this and we just run with it
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SelenicMartian posted:I spy something beginning with Un... But the poutine is so loving goooooood
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Samizdata posted:Could we get a screenie? Some of us just got blocked from Sandi's feed. (GO ME!) There was a pic earlier, but have another 
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Scruffpuff posted:Sandi going to E3 isn't that big of a surprise, when you understand the mentality behind the players at CIG. When a small-time company has a CEO who thinks he's big-time poo poo, you see this type of behavior. Eschewing the popular venues of the "commoners" while making sure you're very visible in a more subtle way. Meetings, drinks after hours, etc. giving the illusion that you're so important that not only do you not need to show anything on the showroom floor with the rest of the publishing plebes, but you in fact have "connections" and are making behind the scenes deals and poo poo, acting as the very bedrock of the industry. Not only that, but they only went once those meddling goons (  ) went and stirred up those high maintenance snowflake () backers and they realized the cost of attending was cheaper than the pool of cash that would be forfeited by the ever growing mass of malcontent backers running out of patience.
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SelenicMartian posted:Just log out. I, too, pick large landmarks in public areas as meeting places in case my elderly mother gets lost. AP fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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AP posted:Reroll went bust I think and could have lifted the TOS from somewhere else. Wouldn't that imply that backer funds are essentially paying for this platform; which isn't this a pretty clear misappropriation of funds? Being that the same lawyer is writing all the same terms for all companies. Sounds as if they're planning on competing with Kickstarter or something, it's just very strange.
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