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Well if you can't get all the guns simply ban the sale of ammo so they are just mantelpieces.
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Anidav posted:Well if you can't get all the guns simply ban the sale of ammo so they are just mantelpieces.
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I'm just trying to figure out why we're talking about shootybangs in Auspol. If lolbcat wants the drat things so much why doesn't he move to the US? He's white. They'll let 'im in. He's more likely to use them on himself rather than African-Americans so if he could just fast-track that process when he gets there that'd be 
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Jun 15, 2016 14:10
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Anidav posted:Well if you can't get all the guns simply ban the sale of ammo so they are just mantelpieces. People will hoard like mad the nanosecond wind of your cunning plan gets out. Ammo lasts for 50 years or so at least. I guess you could make it a multi-generational thing. You also misunderstand my motivation. Saying "banning them is unrealistic and expensive because the yanks have so many" is not the same as saying "Gee I love guns, the American situation is great". But yes, let's drop it. There is nothing that anyone is saying here that hasn't already been said elsewhere in more proper forums.
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Jun 15, 2016 14:14
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liberty cat you are poo poo
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People who tend to hoarde are hoarding already. It's just a step to gradually recede gun culture in the US. As the average american stops caring about guns as ammo stops appearing at a loving Walmart.
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Jun 15, 2016 14:18
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Milky Moor posted:turn your monitor on *snerk* you win the internets 
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Milky Moor posted:turn your monitor on I feel this got lost in the last page, and undeservedly so, because drat. EDIT: A few minutes too late, but my point still stands. Brayds2006 fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 14:29
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Libertychat's avatar gets better every time I see it.
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Jun 15, 2016 15:53
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Love the new avatar, Anidav.
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Scylo posted:A reachtel poll makes it seem as if Oakeshott might have a chance in Cowper, which I'm super surprised and happy about because gently caress Hartsuyker I'm praying for him
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LibertyCat posted:nice av This is the weakest burn
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Recoome posted:This is the weakest burn lol but your av is a pony
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If people are free to own guns are they not free to have pony avs?
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Putting libcat on an ignore list isn't very effective if you all keep quoting and arguing with them. This one poster is dominating the conversation. Is there nothing else to talk about? Its troll-bait
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EXAKT Science posted:lol but your av is a pony Fight me 1v1
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Kommando posted:This one poster is dominating the conversation. Is there nothing else to talk about? Sounds like an election campaign to me.
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Can someone tell me how allowing 30 000 people who are on TPVs (so are already in the community) to live here without that over their heads cause "chaos"? In a country of 23 million+?
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Recoome posted:Fight me 1v1 Bring it, nerd
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Can someone tell me how allowing 30 000 people who are on TPVs (so are already in the community) to live here without that over their heads cause "chaos"? In a country of 23 million+? Racists is about feels You are attempting to use logic against it, you will lose. Edit: what did I do to get a ponytail?
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12yo girl forced to get the courts involved to get an abortion. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/16/queensland-doctor-abortion-more-teenagers-face-appalling-choice QLD worst state
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Can someone tell me how allowing 30 000 people who are on TPVs (so are already in the community) to live here without that over their heads cause "chaos"? In a country of 23 million+? Treating them like human beings only encourages them.
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Kommando posted:Putting libcat on an ignore list isn't very effective if you all keep quoting and arguing with them. Let's talk about how terrible every candidate is instead. In my electorate: Libdems: why should I have to pay for other kids to go to uni? Also opposes Safe Schools ("I got bullied for being a redhead, where's my special program?") Family First: everything, plus good mates with the local (brown) Rise Up! candidate, plus quite obviously gay with a lesbian wife and a "pray away the gay" baby. Higher education: jesus knew there was a place for everyone, and yours is as a tradie pinned under my educated boot Lnp: didn't have a moral compass until he had children (this is literally his personal narrative that he is taking to the election) Green: a woman who doesn't know her place KAP: candidate is passionately anti-Chinese, but is asian? Oh! taiwan is real China, makes sense. Also lines up with the totally not gay FF candidate on social policy Alp: no-one cares that the candidate disagrees personally with party policy but still votes for them. Has a really great story about watching children drown as justification for putting them in rape camps. NXT: happily participates in rape culture by denigrating his wife in public to get a crowd onside. Also "balance required" with IR laws. Bloody useless Presbyterians. Is this what a split looks like? Every candidate except Green is chasing the redneck vote in my electorate.
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norp posted:QLD worst state 100% correct gently caress my state
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http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politic...615-gpj8ng.html Someone/s have been sms messaging pre poll voters with anti-lnp missives pretending to be Malcolm Turnbull.
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Omar Mateen's emphatically brutal attack at an Orlando gay venue lends itself to multiple readings, depending on your politics and world view. At the time of writing I'm trying to get my head around a report the American-born Mateen, a father of one, had used a gay dating app and visited the Pulse nightclub about a dozen times. Apparently he reconnoitred for his lethal mission a little too thoroughly. Maybe the deadliest mass shooting in American history stems from one man's repressed homoerotic desire and self-hatred. We cannot play amateur psychologist – precisely how dark forces coalesce in the mind of any individual is unknowable. But we must vigorously reject the gay-hating radical Islamist ideology in whose name he acted, by at the very least naming it ourselves without the exercise sounding like verbal torture, the words squeezed out like pellets. This Islamist ideology has a pathological obsession with sex and what it regards as the West's decadent influence in all things carnal – sex slaves being sanctioned by scripture – with gay liberation among its most conspicuous targets. Such is the overt marketing pitch of Islamic State, whose hooded warriors don't simply toss gays from tall buildings, they boast of the fact by sticking the footage on the internet. Ever the literalists, IS reportedly base this punishment on claims the Prophet Muhammad said gays "should be thrown from tremendous height then stoned". By contrast the more liberal regimes in Iran and Saudi Arabia are occasionally content to swap the death penalty for a simple flogging. You don't need me to argue the Islamic world needs a sexual revolution, that incrementalism is a pipe dream after decades of great leaps backwards in the status of women, not to mention queers. Muslim feminist dissidents such as Mona Eltahawy and Seyran Ates, and crusading former Muslims such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali make the case authoritatively. And I'm old enough to remember a time when the issue was only of passing academic interest and arguably not really my business. But that was before al-Qaeda, its successors and freelance affiliates went global, exporting the mores of the caliphate to the West and drawing recruits from among us. Bombing the barbarians from the air is the easy part: winning the battle of ideas on the ground is another thing entirely. Mounting a coherent and nuanced argument in favour of sexual liberation and tolerance, flummoxes the very people most qualified for the task. In the wake of Orlando, Florida Senator Marco Rubio said if the attack was inspired by "radical Islamic ideology" it is not surprising gays would be targeted in this horrifying way, "and I think it's something we'll have to talk about some more". The centre of gravity having shifted so radically in the G.O.P, Rubio these days counts as a soaking wet; beyond him a chorus of Republican hardliners spew anti-gay incitement about homosexuality as diabolical perversion. Yet on his own admission Rubio would stack the Supreme Court to oppose same-sex marriage and reverse the President's executive orders banning discrimination against LGBTI employees of federal contractors and the US government. Closer to home, this week a British-born Islamic cleric Farrokh Sekaleshfar visiting Sydney was outed as having responded three years ago to a question about homosexuality by saying, death is a compassionate sentence for homosexuality and we should "get rid of them now". He claims the remarks had been taken out of their "academic and theoretical context". The loudest critic of the decision to grant a visa to this "Islamic hate preacher" allegedly advocating death to homosexuals is Cory Bernadi, who famously linked same-sex marriage with bestiality. Yet, perversely, the political right is also home to leaders such as Jens Spahn, the gay German conservative tipped to succeed Angela Merkel, who two years ago warned there must be no compromise with Islamism because "I don't ever want to experience another attack or insults when I walk through Berlin hand-in-hand with my boyfriend". Every logical impulse dictates that anti-conservatives – torch bearers for the social revolutions of the 1960s and 70s – should be at the frontline of the ideological battle against medieval sexual persecution. But at their worst, in Europe, progressives cave in to radical Islam by acquiescing to gender segregated spaces in swimming pools, beaches and universities, and disowning heretics like Hirsi Ali. Canadian Muslim lesbian Irshad Manji, warns that by giving rights to cultures, not just to individuals, we wind up giving more power to those who are already powerful within certain communities. "The next time you're told you must respect such and such a custom," she says, "ask yourself, 'What does my respect for this custom do for the most vulnerable in that community?'" Christian homophobes are rightly and frequently attacked; Islamic homophobes disappear into Barack Obama's amorphous "violent extremists". Progressives need to find the intellectual dexterity to conceive of Muslims as both victims and perpetrators of dangerous bigotry, to shelve Western guilt enough to grasp the historical imperative of winning the fight against radical Islam. After Orlando, TV news satirist John Oliver said: "For the record I will happily embrace a latin night in a gay nightclub in the theme park capital of the world as the ultimate symbol of what is truly wonderful about America." Amen to that.
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norp posted:12yo girl forced to get the courts involved to get an abortion. quote:Abortion – unless deemed necessary by a doctor to avoid risks to a woman’s mental and physical health – is a criminal offence in Queensland attracting jail sentences of up to seven years for a patient, 14 years for a doctor and three years for anyone who assists. loving WHAT?
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The little variations in state law around reproductive rights and services are a real kick in the dick.
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EXAKT Science posted:loving WHAT? In practice it's more 'illegal' than illegal, but it's still something that needs to be changed. I thought the Queensland government voted to decriminalise it a few weeks ago though?
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How do you target pre poll voters via sms?
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pre:QLDLilley KINGSTON, DavidLiberal National Party of Queensland 1 QLDLilleyHALL, SharanFamily First2QLDLilleyHOLMICK2 QLDLilleyHOLMICK, Simon JamesLiberal Democrats3 QLDLilleySWAN, WayneAustralian Labor Party4 QLDLilleyOGDEN, ClaireThe Greens 5 ugh I'm not fixing that mess on my phone with predictive text. that's my ticket in Lilley. Greens last, Swanny second last, the right wing gently caress heads up top.
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Pickled Tink posted:First Dog:  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/push-for-probe-into-liberal-party-owned-firm-parakeelia/7513666 quote:Election 2016: Liberal Party will 'fully assist' any probe into taxpayer-funded party-owned firm Parakeelia By political reporters Caitlyn Gribbin and Dan Conifer Updated 43 minutes ago quote:Election 2016 live: Parakeelia a 'desperate witch hunt' says Morrison http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/dairy-lobby-adf-wants-governments-to-act/7508052 quote:Australian Dairy Farmers calls for action, not political rhetoric as the industry battles a milk price crisis SA Country Hour By Cassandra Steeth Updated yesterday at 11:33am Rob Oakeshott has a red hot chance against Hartsucker because Hartsucker has done ~nothing~. His four page letter box stuffer was entirely about the big numbers associated with the Pacific Highway upgrade. That was it. I mean he could come out tomorrow as being totally opposed to the whole project and nothing would change. My favourite bit was where he claimed that it was creating regional jobs. Well up until construction is done maybe then? What's your brilliant plan then Mr Muppet? He managed to completely piss half a million dollars that Oakeshott got for the indigenous community in South Kempsey up the wall. http://www.macleayargus.com.au/story/1955882/south-kempsey-park-project-funding-secure/ Not as secure as you said Luke. It's been withdrawn. Thanks for literally nothing.
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EXAKT Science posted:loving WHAT? yeah, QLD is the most conservative state. Women travel an hour and a half south to Tweed Heads, just across in NSW, to get an abortion. Sexual health clinics in Brisbane are hidden and not publicised as existing. There's one in Fortitude Valley that I found only by ducking into its doorway to escape some rain.
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Amoeba102 posted:How do you target pre poll voters via sms? not sure. the article suggests some AEC data was used. Ket posted:I assume you're just commenting on their position and not how you plan on putting them? correct that's their order on the ballot off the aec website.
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Kommando posted:yeah, QLD is the most conservative state. Women travel an hour and a half south to Tweed Heads, just across in NSW, to get an abortion. Sexual health clinics in Brisbane are hidden and not publicised as existing. There's one in Fortitude Valley that I found only by ducking into its doorway to escape some rain. That one went through a branding change and got moved to Windsor. There's no mention of either family or planning in the name now. e: "TRUE relationships and reproductive health " Welsper fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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