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Indecisive posted:yeah sometimes that happens when playing reinhardt, often I find myself just saying 'gently caress it' and start killing people and I wind up with top kills and damage while my team whines about what a 'bad tank' i am You're a bad tank because you're trying to win the game, and as Reinhardt you're supposed to move forward, wondering where your team is before being rushed by 5 defenders. Hint: Your team is all on top of rooftops, trying to snipe with Reaper.
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I've seen way too many Reapers trying to snipe By which I mean like four, but that's still too far
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Jun 15, 2016 20:33
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I shoot at dudes that I know are too far away for me to kill because chip damage still helps me built ult (and occasionally get free kills off of 1 damage) obviously you shouldn't do it when you're flanking, but if you're not in a position to do that and there are dudes there that can see you anyway, you have no reason not to shoot them
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Jun 15, 2016 20:35
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Manatee Cannon posted:I shoot at dudes that I know are too far away for me to kill because chip damage still helps me built ult (and occasionally get free kills off of 1 damage) reposting my lovely potg because this is terribly relevant to the convo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8V7w9FLeNQ
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Jun 15, 2016 20:39
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It took almost 190 matches played until I got to play on Hollywood.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:41
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Tried Zarya for the first time and holy poo poo she is so much more fun than the other tanks.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:42
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Manatee Cannon posted:I shoot at dudes that I know are too far away for me to kill because chip damage still helps me built ult (and occasionally get free kills off of 1 damage) lol It's cool when you do it sometimes. I just had a game last night where there were two Reapers and a Tracer just chilling on the rooftops, picking health off of people while a Reinhardt, Lucio and D.Va tried to take the objective. So I'm still a little bitter.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:47
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Indecisive posted:yeah sometimes that happens when playing reinhardt, often I find myself just saying 'gently caress it' and start killing people and I wind up with top kills and damage while my team whines about what a 'bad tank' i am I play a lot of reinhardt with friends and even with them sometimes i just switch to reaper or something and crash the point. The other team can sometimes force reinhardt into a situation where he is a bad pick, because they are doing a very good job flanking your team and messing up their cohesion. If there is no friendly damage going through your shield, you are not really doing your job, and you can probably mix things up by going reaper, 76, hog, or winston. Sometimes going all out offensive with him can work though as on some maps there are a lot of spots to corner squishy characters and just hammer them to death.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:49
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Pretty Lady Blob posted:Tried Zarya for the first time and holy poo poo she is so much more fun than the other tanks. Zarya loving owns and anyone who avoids playing her because she's a muscle-woman is a god drat idiot. When I'm playing Zarya I like to think about how I feel when I'm playing a different character and round a corner into the face of the opposing team's fully-charged Zarya. I imagine it's like how the demons feel about Doomguy in DOOM. There is literally no one in the game who makes the enemy panic and backpedal harder than Zarya.
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Pretty Lady Blob posted:Tried Zarya for the first time and holy poo poo she is so much more fun than the other tanks. Yes. Yes, she is. I think Rein is about as fun to play as watching paint dry and Winston doesn't really help too much uncoordinated players to get anywhere but Zarya is great, strong and powerful. She's also a massive "gently caress you" to teams that wanna do turret BS on defense. Nah, lemme fill up my charge then lob grenades on all y'all.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:53
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The Jumpoff posted:I don't want better teammates, I want teammates I can do dumb poo poo with. Do dumb poo poo in pubs Tia
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Jun 15, 2016 20:56
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I think if reinhardt isn't working for your team comp (outside of king of the hill) then your team is probably doing something wrong or at least making the game harder on yourselves through your picks - moving cover is such a strong mechanic that if your team is too focused on flank play to use it then you are putting yourself in kind of an uphill battle. Unless the enemy team has like 3 bastions cuz theres no way reinhardt is accomplishing anything in that scenario.
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Jun 15, 2016 20:56
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Zoness posted:I think if reinhardt isn't working for your team comp then your team is probably doing something wrong. When I say it people get pissy. 
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Jun 15, 2016 20:58
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Do weapons that self damage hurt your team mates too?
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Jun 15, 2016 21:05
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reinhardt is 100% dependent on his team to do anything but he's really fun when the team doesn't leave him to die yea you can get some sweet earthshatters in even if nobody's helping you, but it charges slow and it's hard to build so mostly you're just standing there waiting to die while your team ignores you. even people that try to make use of the shield tend to walk through it and stand where they can get shot half the time. I like him best on payload since I can stand on the cart and my team is basically forced to hide behind my shield
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Jun 15, 2016 21:06
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I mean to elaborate if you aren't getting mileage out of using reinhardt it means you lack a front line presence, since most threats to reinhardt should die faster than reinhardt himself. That's not to assume that pushing with a reinhardt is absolutely correct in every scenario, but it is definitely a mistake to pick a hero that so clearly draws a mobile line of battle for you and then not use that bulwark.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:08
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Do weapons that self damage hurt your team mates too? There's no friendly fire at all in this.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:09
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Do weapons that self damage hurt your team mates too? no, and self-harm doesn't even charge zarya's gun if she shields you from it self-harm is never ok
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Jun 15, 2016 21:15
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I don't think Zarya-Pharah needs any more synergy. Blocking self damage from rocket boosting seems pretty good already given how often projected barriers time out.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:17
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Reinhardt really does need a way to spam the voice line he already says the first time he activates it: "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!" "Get behind me! My shield will protect you!"
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Jun 15, 2016 21:19
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I love when I get a Reinhardt on my team And he proceeds to spend the entire game charging into enemies and being useless
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So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. I do like that Torbjorn has a respectable gun and a bigger emphasis on actively responding to the enemy rather than setting up a god turret and turtling.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:22
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. There's a number under your crosshairs that goes from 0 to 100. The higher the number the higher your energy
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. Did you know when you play zarya there is a number in your crosshairs also your crosshairs get bigger and cooler looking
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. It's literally in the middle of your screen.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. Yeah and the charge % is shown around your aiming reticle.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. Theres a number under your crosshair starting at 0 and goes up with charge. Its kind of hard to notice at first. Mostly just stick to M2 until you have a pretty heavy charge. The gun behaves super shiftily without near full charge.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. there's a number on the reticle in the center of your screen that shows you your charge %
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So Zarya's basic gun is a tickle beam, until your shields absorb damage and charges it? How can I tell charge %? Is that just my super %? Just trying to get me head around how the game works. Something something middle of your screen
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Oh, well I'm an idiot then. Thanks!
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Dizz posted:I love when I get a Reinhardt on my team Its kind of counterintuitive that the best Reinhardts are probably going to have the lowest score in every category except possibly objective time.
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Dizz posted:I love when I get a Reinhardt on my team We faced a Reinhardt like that today and he almost single-handedly dismantled us in a couple of games, he had his ult up constantly from all the damage he did and he just hammered people down left and right. Guy was legit terrifying.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:27
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It's in the options under 'Sound'.
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Kanfy posted:We faced a Reinhardt like that today and he almost single-handedly dismantled us in a couple of games, he had his ult up constantly from all the damage he did and he just hammered people down left and right. Guy was legit terrifying. Every Reinhardt thinks they're that Reinhardt. Instead they rocket boost past the person they were trying to hit and get instantly killed by the entire other team. Then your healer/damage dealers hiding behind the shield that he abandoned are killed as well.
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hobbesmaster posted:Its kind of counterintuitive that the best Reinhardts are probably going to have the lowest score in every category except possibly objective time. damage blocked
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How to git gud with Symmetra. Required viewing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uUTnfFKes
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hobbesmaster posted:Every Reinhardt thinks they're that Reinhardt. Instead they rocket boost past the person they were trying to hit and get instantly killed by the entire other team. Then your healer/damage dealers hiding behind the shield that he abandoned are killed as well. This is me.  Sometimes I'm a bloody monster with Reinhardt, the other 75% of the time I think I'm being hot poo poo when I'm just being warm rubbish. I have an itchy boost finger. 
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hobbesmaster posted:Every Reinhardt thinks they're that Reinhardt. Instead they rocket boost past the person they were trying to hit and get instantly killed by the entire other team. Then your healer/damage dealers hiding behind the shield that he abandoned are killed as well. Yeah, now that i have a lot of time played with him, I rarely do this, though i still sometimes make a mistake and misjudge how many bad guys are there. Every now and then though you'll see and opening and its so much goddamn fun. As long as your team is also somewhere near by, if you can catch their healer and pin them near a couple other squishy characters, you can do a tremendous amount of damage if you have an ult ready. What is also always fun is aiming wrong on a charge and not having the right angle to pin someone near the team, and instead you shove them for almost the whole charge and pin them deep behind the line. I have literally then gone on to kill snipers and such because people are stupid and somehow missed the giant knight man rocketing past them with one of their teammates screaming.
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Edmond Dantes posted:This is me. Same except 100%.  I once rocket boosted an enemy Reinhardt off a cliff at the start of route 66, that was kinda funny at least. 
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hobbesmaster posted:Same except 100%. if you're on offense this is a pretty big time gain so that seems reasonable
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