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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
| Total: | 2130 votes | ||
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to be fair they were running against Ed and Ed, who were promising to do exactly the same thing while looking the way they do
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Jedit posted:Last night my hamster was pestering to get some food in her bowl. Once I'd refilled it, she stuffed a bit in her pouches and started asking to go in her exercise ball. Send Syrian rodents back where they came form imo. We've got plenty of our own, what's wrong with keeping a pet rat you bloody forrin-lover.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:36
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dispatch_async posted:And yet the Tories just won a GE with a record of cutting spending in ways that has real effects on real people in day to day life just to meet arbitrary national borrowing targets, and they promised to do more of the same. Messaging is the most important thing in politics. Truth is second, if even that. The Tories didn't sell their policies as "we'll close your libraries and force you out of your houses" because that would be personal and resonant in the same way the immigration messaging is. They sold it as a mix of common sense and abstract number-crunching that doesn't translate well to people's lived experiences. Zephro fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Jun 16, 2016 12:37
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On polling, I get the impression that they all only include UK citizens living in the UK - is that true? I ask because I'm hoping that all the voters living abroad will be heavily Remain and incentivised to vote so that will swing it.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:41
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Zephro posted:Ah, thanks. Must have mis-remembered. Yeah, ask Lemondrizzle 
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Jun 16, 2016 12:47
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Zephro posted:Yes, it's pretty hosed up. But you know, Our National Credit Card™ is maxed out, and we all know what happens when you max out a credit card, right? You have to cut down on takeaways and nights out, I mean it's only common sense, right? Truth doesn't even crack the top 5. The GE coverage proved "Ability to eat a bacon sandwich with grace" is more important.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:48
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Jeremy Clarkson just came out for remain. Cue  ing from Brexiters who are now glad that his version of Top Gear was cancelled.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:51
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Wasn't he already confirmed for Remain? Or is it just more overt now? Could've sworn he wrote an article along the lines of "it makes more sense to fix something from within than gently caress off"
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Jun 16, 2016 12:52
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Clarkson is and always has been a massive Europhile people just find it shocking because he's a racist but he loves the continent particularly Germany and France.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:55
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So, very hypothetically: if Cameron called a GE in the wake of a Leave victory (plus election expenses investigations maybe) and Labour somehow stopped publicly making GBS threads on their own shoes for long enough to win it, could / would they discount the referendum result? It was never a Labour pledge to hold a stupid sodding plebiscite, so far as I know, or to abide by its results.Hobo posted:I'm hoping that all the voters living abroad will be heavily Remain You've not met many ex-pats, have you?
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Jun 16, 2016 12:56
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https://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/2016/06/16/160616LetsTalkAboutImmigration3_desk.mp4 - Watch this and weep. These people are so loving stupid. Edit: - hahahahaha, 'I'm not racist, but in twenty years we'll all be coloureds.' Pesmerga fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Jun 16, 2016 12:57
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Any government can ignore any referendum result. The only question is what the public's response would be.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:58
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I'm voting leave, I think
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Jun 16, 2016 13:00
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Pesmerga posted:https://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/2016/06/16/160616LetsTalkAboutImmigration3_desk.mp4 - Watch this and weep. These people are so loving stupid. We're hosed. 
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Jun 16, 2016 13:01
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Wolfsbane posted:Any government can ignore any referendum result. The only question is what the public's response would be. Given it's Britain, nothing much probably.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:02
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Does anyone want to organise a sweepstake? Winner can nominate a charity for everyone else to donate £5 to (maybe one for a group most likely to get hosed over if we leave?). Edit: Think % yes % No and voter turnout kind of thing.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:03
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WMain00 posted:Given it's Britain, nothing much probably. the government should just issue a statement saying they left the EU and then do nothing. No one will check or care
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Jun 16, 2016 13:04
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Pesmerga posted:Jeremy Clarkson just came out for remain. Cue Clarkson literally wants a United States of Europe. With regards to Gibraltar, would it be possible to work out a reverse Greenland deal where Gibraltar stays in the EU but we don't? Or would Spain be able to veto that. I know they kept threatening to make it difficult for an independent Scotland to join the EU because it was making them look bad for not giving their separatists a referendum but I don't know if that was hot air.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:08
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:the government should just issue a statement saying they left the EU and then do nothing. No one will check or care Plus people will feel like their lives are so much better than back in the Dark Ages. The ultimate placebo.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:08
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Pesmerga posted:https://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/2016/06/16/160616LetsTalkAboutImmigration3_desk.mp4 - Watch this and weep. These people are so loving stupid. Has anyone ever actually seen one of these palaces "they" are building to give to jobless immigrants? Also sad: first five seconds, the old man who enthusiastically and completely without malice yells "let's take back our country!" who is clearly just happy to be out of the house and getting involved in something.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:11
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Pipski posted:You've not met many ex-pats, have you? There's the big groups in Spain, sure, but then there's also a lot of young workers across the EU, and various non-UK groups that can vote. Didn't Gibraltar have a poll with 88% voting remain and a high likely turnout?
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Jun 16, 2016 13:12
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Renaissance Robot posted:Has anyone ever actually seen one of these palaces "they" are building to give to jobless immigrants? Seriously, one hundred years ago these idiots would be believing that milk left outside will go sour if a gypsy walks past it. We're seeing the modern-day equivalent of superstitious yokels, only now it's 'immigrants' rather than 'witches'.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:13
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Pesmerga posted:Seriously, one hundred years ago these idiots would be believing that milk left outside will go sour if a gypsy walks past it. We're seeing the modern-day equivalent of superstitious yokels, only now it's 'immigrants' rather than 'witches'. maybe if capitalism would stop having all these crises and then blaming said crises on immigrants people wouldn't be so agitated about the issue
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Jun 16, 2016 13:16
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Renaissance Robot posted:
that guy rules
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Jun 16, 2016 13:16
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Renaissance Robot posted:Has anyone ever actually seen one of these palaces "they" are building to give to jobless immigrants? Big Dave down the pub's sister's auntie heard that one of those Polish or Romainian families got a 6-bedroom mansion the day they came off the ferry from Calais, and their rent is paid entirely by the taxpayer.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:17
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Pesmerga posted:Seriously, one hundred years ago these idiots would be believing that milk left outside will go sour if a gypsy walks past it. We're seeing the modern-day equivalent of superstitious yokels, only now it's 'immigrants' rather than 'witches'. The well poisoning Jew never fully died out. 
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Jun 16, 2016 13:17
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What are the general statistics for voter turnout? Am I correct in remembering that there was a huge percentage of the British public that didn't vote in the last GE? I recall some statistics being passed around highlighting how the Tories had a 51% majority despite a quarter (or less) of the country actually voting for them. The reason I ask is out of curiosity regarding how voter turnout could affect the referendum, since we could theoretically see a situation where Leave beats Remain by as much as 10% but still only represents a third of the population, or maybe less. I'd assume that Leave would need to win the referendum by a huge percentage (70-80) to negate the amount of no-votes to make Brexit actually viable to Parliament?
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Jun 16, 2016 13:17
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The Spanish are sharpening their Gibralter knives:quote:But he added that Spain views Gibraltar as Spanish regardless of what happens in next week's referendum, according to Spanish newspapers.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:18
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SUNKOS posted:What are the general statistics for voter turnout? Am I correct in remembering that there was a huge percentage of the British public that didn't vote in the last GE? I recall some statistics being passed around highlighting how the Tories had a 51% majority despite a quarter (or less) of the country actually voting for them. Lol democratic votes shouldn't get voided just cos the losing side says "Well, all our guys didn't vote, so..."
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Jun 16, 2016 13:18
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SUNKOS posted:I'd assume that Leave would need to win the referendum by a huge percentage (70-80) to negate the amount of no-votes to make Brexit actually viable to Parliament? You're assuming incorrectly.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:19
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Hobo posted:There's the big groups in Spain, sure, but then there's also a lot of young workers across the EU, and various non-UK groups that can vote. I was being a bit facetious. Dunno about Gib, but the only poll of EU expats I could find has ~72% in favour of Remain.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:20
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Pesmerga posted:https://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/2016/06/16/160616LetsTalkAboutImmigration3_desk.mp4 - Watch this and weep. These people are so loving stupid. We're too loving dumb to live.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:21
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The Tories could ignore the referendum but that'd be stupid. Instead they'll do what they always do when they're forced to do something they don't like. gently caress it up on purpose, claim it's clearly unworkable and by then public opinion will have shifted enough no one gives a poo poo anymore.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:22
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Are Tories the good guys or the bad guys in this thread, now? I lose track a lot.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:24
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Turnout will be far higher for this than the GE, as I said before this is about saving our country, not voting for whoever we think will do the least damage. As for that Guardian video, if the only people they could find to back Remain were non-white and/or non-British that's obviously not going to do anything to sway anyone. Did like the fella with the Polish surname speaking like a walking Daily Mail headline though.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:25
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Rakosi posted:Lol democratic votes shouldn't get voided just cos the losing side says "Well, all our guys didn't vote, so..." I think that happened at the 1979 Scottish devolution referendum, but there was a specific amendment made to say that it had to be over 40% of the electorate voting yes rather than just over 50% of those who voted. But I very much doubt that'll be the case here.
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Jun 16, 2016 13:26
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HJB posted:As for that Guardian video, if the only people they could find to back Remain were non-white and/or non-British that's obviously not going to do anything to sway anyone. Did like the fella with the Polish surname speaking like a walking Daily Mail headline though. I liked his straightforwardly Partridgean "You're lovely you are."
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Jun 16, 2016 13:27
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Rakosi posted:Are Tories the good guys or the bad guys in this thread, now? I lose track a lot. i think the tories have joined forces with labour to be the acceptable evil for the next week or so but i'm not completely sure
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Jun 16, 2016 13:28
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HJB posted:not voting for whoever we think will do the least damage. if you genuinely believe it isn't this you're living in a dreamworld mate
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Jun 16, 2016 13:30
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"If Scotland leaves the UK, it will be fine." "If the UK leaves the EU, it will collapse into hellfire and damnation"
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