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Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Boomerjinks posted:

Union Pacific roundhouse in Cheyenne.



So basically "This is where we shove all the stuff we can't be bothered to scrap."

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JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

So basically "This is where we shove all the stuff we can't be bothered to scrap."

Isn't that where they store the steam engines they maintain?

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:

So basically "This is where we shove all the stuff we can't be bothered to scrap."

It used to be a mess. Now everything on site is very valuable or irreplaceable. Anything that isn't useful was scrapped already.

Some of it is parts for the old passenger cars, locomotives, and even the rotary plow that they paid $$$ to get it there. It was really taking a beating in the weather, so they used parts of old rail cars to build those parts sheds because their investment parts were just out in the open turning into garbage.

It is part of the UP's 5S program. Which has to do with organizing and inventory to reduce waste in the company. We joke it means Stupid, Shine, Steal, Sell, poo poo or any other variations of that. But really it is pretty awesome. Like parts on racks that get used a lot. A tag in front of the last 3 of that item that says, "we don't care what else you are doing, stop and call this phone number and leave a voicemail with this tag number so that we can send you more" or similar.

This does two things. It makes sure that the UP isn't paying for 100 of an expensive thing that nobody can find where it is, and also so that manpower, equipment, trains etc aren't sitting on their thumb saying, "wow if we only had that thing we need, then we wouldn't be burning $250k per minute sitting here wishing someone had put it in the right spot or ordered them before we ran out.

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at 18:23 on May 30, 2016

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Oh yeah I forgot Cheyenne was the HQ of the steam program. Makes more sense now.

I'm familiar with 5S and yes, it's a great idea. The reorder tags are a Kan-Ban system, and that's great too as long as it's been planned properly. Problem is companies tend to rush into it without planning properly and then set the reorder levels based on ideal delivery times rather than realistic ones, resulting in running out of required materials or components. We don't use a Kan-Ban system yet where I work, but we are in the planning process. One of our customers does and it was never implemented properly, frequently resulting in 3 orders for the same part in a single week.

hogmartin
Mar 27, 2007
This might not be exactly the right place to ask but I didn't see a Stuff In Tunnels Insanity thread...

Can anyone identify the two objects on the left side of this picture? It's the Swiss Gotthard Base Tunnel.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/20141120_gotthard-basistunnel02-wikipedia-hannes-ortlieb.jpg

They look like some kind of counterweights but I have no idea what for.

e: aaag link, not embed. I don't know if hotlinking from wikimedia is allowed.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus
Counterweights for the overhead line? It's obviously not complete considering you can see them working on it in the background.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Klaus Kinski posted:

Counterweights for the overhead line? It's obviously not complete considering you can see them working on it in the background.

That would be my guess as well. Basically a dampener from the pantograph. However, what they are attached to right now is nothing from the looks at the picture more. There are two more mounts on the roof there with nothing on them. There is a coppery line hanging down from each. The further one has a couple loops over a nearby line before handing down. The other just falls down and looks connected to the further counterweight. However, that is an illusion of the angle and is hanging in front of it destined to be tied to the closer counterweight.

In that talk though, what is the top line used for? The lower line I know is where they get the power to run, but the top line is also being held a fixed height away and on the same suspension system.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus
It's just there to support the lower line. Stuff like this is always hard to translate but direct translation from swedish would be "carry line".

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

JuffoWup posted:

In that talk though, what is the top line used for? The lower line I know is where they get the power to run, but the top line is also being held a fixed height away and on the same suspension system.

It supports the bottom line. If you look really closely, you can see the vertical supports between top and bottom lines. It prevents sagging between the larger supports

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Free beer!
http://www.turnto23.com/news/breaking-news/train-hauling-beer-derails-near-tehachapi-loop

9axle
Sep 6, 2009
If I remember correctly, the lower line that the pantograph contacts is hard, brittle copper alloy for wear resistance, the second wire both supports it and acts as a parallel conductor in case the contact wire breaks. The counterweights keep tension as the the wires expand and contract with temperature changes and mechanical stretching.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus
The top wire is does not conduct or it fails 100% of the time the lower wire breaks, at least that's my live experience. One stretch usually isn't that long (500m-1.5km?) but when the wire fails, it usually fucks an entire ~50km or so section.

Someone that actually knows electricity can probably explain this better.

e: I do have a few short fun stories involving 16kv lines, pantographs and user error even though I've only been in this line of work for 3 years.

Klaus Kinski fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 3, 2016

hogmartin
Mar 27, 2007
When you say top and bottom wires, which do you mean? On the left side, I see three wires: two at the ceiling, one lower down the wall.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus
Here, have the official swedish handbook on this.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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So this happened to one of my guys
http://www.kgwn.tv/content/news/Train-derails-near-Dyno-Nobel-plant-382008741.html

hogmartin
Mar 27, 2007
If there's a quiet week and then a new post, pretty much something bad happened :(

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity > Locomotive Insanity: NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS

Glad nobody's hurt.

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS
https://twitter.com/mikespencerpics/status/740839046239387648

It almost looks like one of those "shop modern and old photos together" pictures.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Itzena posted:

https://twitter.com/mikespencerpics/status/740839046239387648

It almost looks like one of those "shop modern and old photos together" pictures.

Except the Flying Scotsman would never be at Paddington :spergin:

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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I wonder how they will rule?
https://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=FRA-2014-0033-0945

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

MikeCrotch posted:

Except the Flying Scotsman would never be at Paddington :spergin:

:eng101: The Flying Scotsman had comparitive trials on the GWR soon after she was built, and later worked (briefly) on Western Region post-war, including some repairs at Swindon Works.
(I know the latter because my grandfather was a fireman on the GWR/WR and fired her at least once).

Itzena fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jun 17, 2016

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Got to meet Lance Fritz CEO of the UPRR today. I hear he is from MoW originally. Pretty down to earth guy for a CEO of one of the biggest companies on the planet.

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012

B4Ctom1 posted:

Got to meet Lance Fritz CEO of the UPRR today. I hear he is from MoW originally. Pretty down to earth guy for a CEO of one of the biggest companies on the planet.

I had a similar experience when I met Wick Moorman, then president of Norfolk Southern. He was really great to talk to. I wish we had more people like them in upper management.

My wife recently started a job with Southwest Airlines. I've been watching the way they treat their employees and it blows my mind. If you asked a trainmaster to be as nice as a supervisor at a similar level at SWA, their head might explode.

It makes me weep for my career choices.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Head on BNSF wreck in Panhandle Texas
http://www.newschannel10.com/story/32324196/two-trains-collide-near-panhandle-tx

There is horrible video shot by a girl with her phone within half a second of the impact while the other train is still hauling rear end and derailing. At least one of these trains was hauling rear end pretty good at impact.

3 crew members missing still.

It makes me feel sick in the pit of my stomach.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Here is something I came across today, a train on a boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJXprbRYcos

They load the train sections and put it back together at the stop.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Olden days version:

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

B4Ctom1 posted:

Head on BNSF wreck in Panhandle Texas
http://www.newschannel10.com/story/32324196/two-trains-collide-near-panhandle-tx

There is horrible video shot by a girl with her phone within half a second of the impact while the other train is still hauling rear end and derailing. At least one of these trains was hauling rear end pretty good at impact.

3 crew members missing still.

It makes me feel sick in the pit of my stomach.

he'll never be the head of a major corporation

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

OMGVBFLOL posted:

he'll never be the head of a major corporation

gently caress u

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Lime Tonics posted:

Here is something I came across today, a train on a boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJXprbRYcos

They load the train sections and put it back together at the stop.

They used to be fairly common, even part of the regular commuter rail network in some cities (like in San Francisco across the Carquinez Strait). Bridges, highways, airplanes, and the stackable cargo container all contributed to make them obsolete in most locations. There are still a few going though, in various circumstances where those options don't work for whatever reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_ferry

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

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Lime Tonics posted:

Here is something I came across today, a train on a boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJXprbRYcos

They load the train sections and put it back together at the stop.

I took a trip on the badger two weeks ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Badger

It was built as a rail ferry for the C&O.

Steam powered boats are spoooooky to ride on. You don't feel the boat move really, and the only indication that there's propulsion is the thump of the pressure waves from the propellor.

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Olden days version:



The loading ramps this one used are still extant on the Windsor side of the river. They're right in front of Caesar's.




Enclosed ferries were used for cross lake routes. This is the Marquette and Bessemer no. 2. Note the lack of a stern gate. This was probably a liability when they sailed out into a gale on Lake Erie in 1909 and disappeared. A bunch of debris and lifeboat full of frozen dudes turned up but the ship is still missing. There are probably thirty rail cars still on the wreck.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

rocket_350 posted:

Enclosed ferries were used for cross lake routes. This is the Marquette and Bessemer no. 2. Note the lack of a stern gate. This was probably a liability when they sailed out into a gale on Lake Erie in 1909 and disappeared. A bunch of debris and lifeboat full of frozen dudes turned up but the ship is still missing. There are probably thirty rail cars still on the wreck.



I heard that was the second runner up when Gordon Lightfoot was looking for a song idea.

Poor bastards.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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I do not like this gif
http://i.imgur.com/tynjwYH.mp4

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Pier 43 the rail ferry arch is a historic landmark in the touristy area along fishermans war in San Fran
https://foursquare.com/v/pier-43-ferry-arch/4aef0954f964a52042d521e3

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
I can't believe they spent the money to crash a train but put a small airbag between the two people.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

oh FRA crash regulations :allears:

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

CharlesM posted:

I can't believe they spent the money to crash a train but put a small airbag between the two people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QxWybfrtOA

It's not between the two, it's a controlled test. The airbag is on one side only while both dummies are in front of otherwise similar dashboards.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
Ah well that makes a lot more sense. Guess I shouldn't make assumptions based on what I see in a GIF :v:

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Lime Tonics posted:

Here is something I came across today, a train on a boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJXprbRYcos

They load the train sections and put it back together at the stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQJNd5bcujM

Better view of a similar loading. Same crossing, possibly the same ferry. This time though, the view isn't of the scenery to the sides so you get a better idea of the loading on the ramp into the ferry.

spckr
Aug 3, 2014

here we go
The Rødby - Puttgarden ferry carries german high speed trains across the Fehmarn Strait in the Baltic Sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh14SqqE2H8

Pretty weird when you sit in your car and a train pulls up beside you

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Seems like the wave action has to be practically nil for that to work well.

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