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Ugly In The Morning posted:I had no idea this was a thing, and now I'm excited. I did not know that. So R.K. Morgan wrote Crysis 2, the game, and Peter Watts wrote the novelisation? Huh. Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Kampfy Von Wafflehaus posted:How are they going to handle resleeving for Kovacs I wonder? I feel like different actors might be jarring. I guess I'll spoiler, which is weird because of how old the book it, but whatever. Did Quantum Leap teach you nothing? They already set precedence for that by doing the following: Ugly In The Morning posted:it'd be cool if they had one guy playing Kovacs, but every time he saw himself in the mirror or on a camera, it was played by someone else, or something similar. It'd get around the actor problem while still keeping that whole "someone else's face looking back at you" weirdness.
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Jun 17, 2016 13:00
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Oh, neat! The sequel to Rook is out now. Read this. It was a fun ride, although I wouldn't have minded some additional buddy-cop antics between our Checquy and Grafter protagonists. Maybe next book, since the two organisations are firmly allied now?
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Jun 17, 2016 13:18
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I'm currently reading it and sorely miss Myfanwy's letters to herself.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:30
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Ugly In The Morning posted:it'd be cool if they had one guy playing Kovacs, but every time he saw himself in the mirror or on a camera, it was played by someone else, or something similar. It'd get around the actor problem while still keeping that whole "someone else's face looking back at you" weirdness. Yeah. Just Quantum Leap it.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:38
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No don't. Different actors! One of Altered Carbon's big themes is the way that the body changes personality and behavior. Force the audience to reckon with the change!
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Jun 17, 2016 16:45
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General Battuta posted:No don't. Different actors! One of Altered Carbon's big themes is the way that the body changes personality and behavior. Force the audience to reckon with the change! It's easier to present that in novels, since Kovacs' narrative voice doesn't change substantially. They'd definitely have to do something along the lines of having all the different actors utilize the same kind of body language and verbal tics. Otherwise too many people are going to take too long to figure out who this new jamoke is each time he re-sleeves and it will be more annoying than clever.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:10
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General Battuta posted:No don't. Different actors! One of Altered Carbon's big themes is the way that the body changes personality and behavior. Force the audience to reckon with the change! Altered Carbon, starring Tatiana Maslany as Takeshi Kovacs.
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Jun 17, 2016 19:29
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Just use a mustache and add a limp
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Jun 17, 2016 20:53
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flosofl posted:It's easier to present that in novels, since Kovacs' narrative voice doesn't change substantially. Voice-over narration could go a long way toward solving this problem.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:55
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Kesper North posted:Altered Carbon, starring Tatiana Maslany as Takeshi Kovacs.
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Jun 17, 2016 22:24
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Enver Gjokaj proved in Dollhouse that he is the male Tatiana Maslany (or rather vice versa, since Dollhouse came before Orphan Black), in that he can play any role imaginable that gets thrown at him. Their range is limitless.
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Jun 17, 2016 22:31
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Altered Carbon has a built-in excuse to be an anthology show.
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Jun 18, 2016 00:11
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I just got finished reading Tambu by Robert Aspirin and I really enjoyed it, far more than I expected to. Are there any other books in a similar vein? The moral interludes of the interview sections were kinda meh, but I really enjoyed the concept of a coming of age story focusing more on the establishment of a character stereotype and, basically, a corporation that wasn't tied to a heroic adventure.
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Jun 18, 2016 01:58
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Junkenstein posted:I did not know that. So R.K. Morgan wrote Crysis 2, the game, and Peter Watts wrote the novelisation? Huh. Yep. And apparently he wrote a A Land Fit For Heroes game that came out a month ago (and looks godawful). Huh. Looks like he isn't doing much on the books side of things anymore, which is a shame.
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Jun 18, 2016 02:20
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It's very possible that I've missed it in this thread, but did anyone know that this was happening? How will this even work?
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Jun 18, 2016 02:29
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XBenedict posted:It's very possible that I've missed it in this thread, but did anyone know that this was happening? Just do the first book and tweak the ending.
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Jun 18, 2016 02:34
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I was surprised (in a good way) they they are looking at making a Nightside series (based off the Simon Green books). Now, if they can avoid using "it's the easiest thing in the world" and "suddenly, violently, and all over the place" 12 times an episode it'll be a show worth watching.
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Jun 18, 2016 05:10
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mcustic posted:Just use a mustache and add a limp You're kidding, but it would be cool if they used the same actor just with really good make-up, so he's just different enough
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Jun 18, 2016 05:47
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navyjack posted:You're kidding, but it would be cool if they used the same actor just with really good make-up, so he's just different enough Sort of like Cloud Atlas? I think the voice over idea would be pretty good. From the books Kovac doesn't seem to change bodies very much as far as I remember but if they are expanding the series it would be neat to see prior bodies and missions.
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Jun 18, 2016 08:27
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I just read the book and it seems like they would need to do a fair amount of flashbacks anyway.
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Jun 18, 2016 08:32
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FowlTheOwl posted:Sort of like Cloud Atlas? I think the voice over idea would be pretty good. From the books Kovac doesn't seem to change bodies very much as far as I remember but if they are expanding the series it would be neat to see prior bodies and missions. he spends most of the book in the body of that cop's boyfriend, so it should be clear enough.
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Jun 18, 2016 11:07
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I was surprised (in a good way) they they are looking at making a Nightside series (based off the Simon Green books). I read one of these and it was so derivative that it felt almost like parody what with all the gritty detective stuff and supernatural London and all that.
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Jun 18, 2016 11:49
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Stiletto is a weird book: there are tons of scenes which I didn't like, where unnecessary or contained plotholes. Yet overall I did enjoy reading it despite all it flaws.
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Yea, I think the overall weirdness to me was that Myfanwy was made sort of a background character and I was expecting her to be front and center again. It was a weird book, but pretty good.
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Jun 18, 2016 22:31
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XBenedict posted:It's very possible that I've missed it in this thread, but did anyone know that this was happening? Well, the guy writing/directing it just did Ex Machina, which was also a movie with a very minimal cast and wasn't afraid to go dark as hell. Anyway, I finished reading Too Like the Lightning today and I really enjoyed it up until the end when it became obvious that it wasn't actually going to wrap anything up. I'm just getting tired of reading stuff where they just don't stick the landing.
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Finished The Two of Swords Part One. It was my first K.J. Parker, and I liked it quite a bit. I picked up Sharps but I think I'll try and catch up on the serial first.
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I recently finished Perfect State. It's my first Brandon Sanderson, and I liked it a lot, especially since it seems self-aware about Sanderson's favorite tropes.
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Sorry if this is a bit of a nonsensical question, but after having finished both The Company and the first book in The Engineer trilogy, I can safely say that I love Parker's style but can't quite handle how bleak his works are: any suggestions for something in a similar vein but perhaps an itsy bitsy smidgen more optimistic?
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Robot Wendigo posted:Finished The Two of Swords Part One. It was my first K.J. Parker, and I liked it quite a bit. I picked up Sharps but I think I'll try and catch up on the serial first. Don't do it! The two of swords won't be finished for forever so go onto sharps and give Parker more time to finish two of swords.
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The Crooked Warden posted:Sorry if this is a bit of a nonsensical question, but after having finished both The Company and the first book in The Engineer trilogy, I can safely say that I love Parker's style but can't quite handle how bleak his works are: any suggestions for something in a similar vein but perhaps an itsy bitsy smidgen more optimistic? I'm with you and I found his stuff depressed me a lot less in short form. Try Academic Exercises. Most of those stories are available online, as well, if you google the title.
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So, Yoon Ha Lee is really, really good. This may not be news to people, but his new novel, Ninefox Gambit, is out and it's certainly something. Military SF. This is sort-of a prequel short story? I haven't got very far into the novel yet. (I can't help but think of Traveller's Imperial Office of Calendar Compliance...)
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I've finished "Encounter with Tiber", co-written by Buzz Aldrin and John Barnes. It is not a bad read. The "future history" part is a bit naive and overoptimistic (in the novel chronology we would be sending our first manned mission to Phobos in two years), but the alternative astronautics development is a nice read, with some curious parallelisms to real history. There is a character that is a sort of blend between Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson, and the workhorse of the US is a scaled up Apollo Capsule built by the french under Rockwell license . The space travel infrastrucure is unsurprisingly based on Aldrin's non-fiction works. The main trouble with the novel is the Aliens. Actually, there are not aliens at all. They are basically furry humans, with very human motivations, hatreds and political stuff going on. Nevertheless, it is a nice read to see the worst and the best of the human condition projected onto an alien race. Racism, slavery anc colonialism are main drivers in the aliens story. The main "leson" of the book being "do not be bigots, love and support each other and do whatever necessary to reach the starts, or you will die". There is another book written by the pair (The Return), but the reviews don't look very promising. Has anyone read it?
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Jun 20, 2016 11:29
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I wonder how they'll handle Kovac doing Meth like ALL the time.
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Jun 20, 2016 12:18
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That's hardly the only drug he takes.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:37
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Stross The nightmare stacks have just been shipped to me. Let us hope it is better than the last, which was kinda disappointing.
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chrisoya posted:So, Yoon Ha Lee is really, really good. This may not be news to people, but his new novel, Ninefox Gambit, is out and it's certainly something. Military SF. By the way, seconding that Stiletto was fun and a solid read. Diving a bit deeper into the mad science of the Grafters was fun after the X-Men style hijinks of The Rook.
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chrisoya posted:So, Yoon Ha Lee is really, really good. This may not be news to people, but his new novel, Ninefox Gambit, is out and it's certainly something. Military SF. I haven't read this but A Vector Alphabet of Interstellar Travel was very good and reminded me of Borges a little bit in a way that is kind of hard to pin down.
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RoboCicero posted:From what I've read it sounds really cool, but does it, er, wrap up? I've read a lot of "first-book-of-a-trilogy" this year and it's really beginning to burn my biscuits. Not that the books aren't good but I feel like I have enough dangling plot threads to make a nice bead curtain at this point. Dude really likes his foxes though.
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chrisoya posted:So, Yoon Ha Lee is really, really good. This may not be news to people, but his new novel, Ninefox Gambit, is out and it's certainly something. Military SF. After reading The Big Idea: Yoon Ha Lee on Scalzi's blog, it went straight to the top on my "To buy next" list on Amazon.
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