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swickles posted:Basically its $40 million to Briles, or fire Briles for cause and lose all federal funding plus fines from the DoJ for wanton Title IX violations. Yeah, this. Firing with cause would require a written report.
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Neil Armbong posted:Yeah, this. Firing with cause would require a written report. There are still lawsuits and any number of future investigations coming. Baylor is going to pay Briles $40M and still get reamed later.
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I agree. They must be delusional if they think they can keep it all under wraps.
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NC-17 posted:I agree. They must be delusional if they think they can keep it all under wraps. They're sadly doing an ace job right now.
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Neil Armbong posted:They're sadly doing an ace job right now. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Litigation and investigations will come.
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NC-17 posted:Oh man, I *really* want to know what is in that report. There must be some horrific poo poo in there if this is the better option for them
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Ignorant question, but why couldn't you just FOIA the report? Or is that govt/public uni only?
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Yeah I believe Baylor being a private institution protects them from FOIA requests? That or makes it easier to nitpick and not release things for spurious reasons, one or the other. I think they also claim there is no written report as such, they just got verbal updates/reports from the law firm. e: After thinking about it (not a lawyer obviously) I'm almost sure FOIA just doesn't apply to private schools/institutions. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Yeah there is supposedly no written report that names names and spells out the specifics. There is a "finding of fact" that is very damning but leaves it unclear as to who exactly did what. Apparently the firm made an oral presentation to the BOR that included a lot of those details, but they didn't want it put in writing. I'm not exactly sure what they're afraid of since they're not subject to FOIA and it sure seems like a written assessment prepared by the school's law firm would be privileged if anyone tried to make them hand it over in a lawsuit. Settling with Briles makes sense, because right now they don't have to disclose this stuff, but if Briles sues them for breach of contract it will be hard for them to win without revealing specifics of whatever they say he was involved in. Sucks that Briles gets a big payday for being a scumbag, but why stop now I guess.
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Thermos H Christ posted:Yeah there is supposedly no written report that names names and spells out the specifics. There is a "finding of fact" that is very damning but leaves it unclear as to who exactly did what. Apparently the firm made an oral presentation to the BOR that included a lot of those details, but they didn't want it put in writing. I'm not exactly sure what they're afraid of since they're not subject to FOIA and it sure seems like a written assessment prepared by the school's law firm would be privileged if anyone tried to make them hand it over in a lawsuit. They are afraid of subpoenas from the DoJ. Not having a written report and only an oral presentation allows them all to run the Alberto Gonzalez defense.
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swickles posted:They are afraid of subpoenas from the DoJ. Not having a written report and only an oral presentation allows them all to run the Alberto Gonzalez defense. But could the DOJ actually get it? What's the argument for it not being privileged attorney work product? I guess you could try to say it wasn't prepared "in anticipation of litigation," but that seems like a tough argument to make when the school hired an outside law firm to come in and conduct this investigation. I feel like lawyers are not who you would ordinarily hire to do that job if you weren't looking to know who has a valid case against you and what the extent of your liability/exposure will be.
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Between this and seeing the caddie bibs on the PGA Tour are apparently worth $50m a year in ad revenue, I'm in the completely wrong line of work.
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Is it feasible for somebody to go after Briles. I mean girlfriend just got paiiiiiid for being a poo poo heel
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NC-17 posted:I agree. They must be delusional It says "Baptist" right there on the label.
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Maybe if the NCAA had burned Penn State's program to the ground like they should have, Baylor might have fallen in line and made their reports public to plead for mercy. Instead, Art Briles is gonna get a $40M buyout for recruiting rapists onto campus while sitting out a show-cause for a few years. I hope Baylor's fancy new stadium is a loving mausoleum on gamedays for a few decades.
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skaboomizzy posted:Maybe if the NCAA had burned Penn State's program to the ground like they should have, Baylor might have fallen in line and made their reports public to plead for mercy. Yeah annihilating an institution for an ethics violation would absolutely make other institutions more willing to admit ethics violations great take
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Sports are evil and we're all horrible people for enabling its constant rise. The sooner you realize this, the sooner the healing can begin
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Chris James 2 posted:Sports are evil and we're all horrible people for enabling its constant rise. The sooner you realize this, the sooner the healing can begin pretty much
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah annihilating an institution for an ethics violation would absolutely make other institutions more willing to admit ethics violations great take Nobody admits ethics violations after a certain point when money is involved though. The guilty never come clean unless forced to.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah annihilating an institution for an ethics violation would absolutely make other institutions more willing to admit ethics violations great take This is a good point, but gently caress Baylor anyway.
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oh no a bunch of schools that won't self-report regardless will now strive even more to not report
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Chris James 2 posted:Sports are evil and we're all horrible people for enabling its constant rise. The sooner you realize this, the sooner the healing can begin This guy gets it
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nick saban is a saint and his players are angels roll tide
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Back had to get my Boy Briles Back to Baylor it didn't quite work out so I spent a few days scrubbing a certain report and let's just say everyone's innocent Championship baby.
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Which school will have the first exposed major scandal? Bama or tOSU?
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Eifert Posting posted:Which school will have the first exposed major scandal? Bama or tOSU? OSU already had one bad enough that the coach lost his job, soo
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Eifert Posting posted:Which school will have the first exposed major scandal? Bama or tOSU? Saban will be caught feasting on failed three star recruits, school will claim that this isn't explicitly stated as an infraction in NCAA rules, fans will somehow defend him.
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Can't even fire him for cause, but no there's plenty of Evidence in said report (Medi$$$a says trust us)... Well where are the two written copies that the Board gave to me? Can anyone find them?? Are they shredded or did they never exist? Baylor Bitch
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go3 posted:oh no a bunch of schools that won't self-report regardless will now strive even more to not report lol at people having strong opinions about anti virus software
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You don't remember the Symantec vs McAfee wars of the early 2000s, my friend. It was a dangerous time.
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That joke works especially when you remember the Norton guy is an actual murderer
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John McAfee is the murder suspect. Unless Peter Norton is also a killer! That would be pretty crazy.
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Uh I meant Er Norton from fight club... Yeah...
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Intruder posted:lol at people having strong opinions about anti virus software goons
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Is McAfee the guy who is just chilling in Honduras or Belize and doing bath salts all day?
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swickles posted:Is McAfee the guy who is just chilling in Honduras or Belize and doing bath salts all day? That's him!
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McAfee also ran for the Libertarian party nomination this year. With an ad like this, I have no idea how he lost. http://youtu.be/KAjl-Gibm8c
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stay classy Brilesquote:The day before the mediation session, Briles' personal attorney, Ernest Cannon, filed a motion to separate Briles from Baylor University in the Hernandez lawsuit, meaning each would be able to fight or settle the lawsuit independently. The motion contended that Briles, who had been fired May 26, was being unfairly blamed for the school's overall institutional failure to address sexual assault and that Baylor's attorneys were not working on his behalf.
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