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Rexxed posted:Since your new SSD will be a different size than the old SSD, image 7 to 10 to the SSD before you upgrade. When you upgrade 7/8 to 10 it adds a 500mb partition to the end of the disk so if you image afterwards you're stuck in hosed up partition hell. My 256 GB 840 Pro is taking a poo poo, so I was thinking about upgrading from 7 to 10 when I install the new 500GB 850 EVO on the way (thanks, thread). What should my process be, given that I'm not confident the old drive could withstand a new OS install?
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Thanatosian posted:My 256 GB 840 Pro is taking a poo poo, so I was thinking about upgrading from 7 to 10 when I install the new 500GB 850 EVO on the way (thanks, thread). What should my process be, given that I'm not confident the old drive could withstand a new OS install? Not a comment on that process, but why don't you RMA the 840 Pro? It's not possible for them to actually be out of warranty if you purchased it new at retail, because they have 5 year warranties.
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Thanatosian posted:My 256 GB 840 Pro is taking a poo poo, so I was thinking about upgrading from 7 to 10 when I install the new 500GB 850 EVO on the way (thanks, thread). What should my process be, given that I'm not confident the old drive could withstand a new OS install? Don't bother cloning from a failing drive.
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So I'm a new owner of a Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB, and also new to Widows 10, is it still recommended to turn off any OS defragging/optimizations it does to SSD's? That was the consensus years ago for Windows 7, not sure if things have changes with newer OS's. I also checked but didn't see any new firmware's for the 850, only the 840, so is the 850 up to date outta the box,? Also also, is Samsung Magician recommended, these kind of things tend to be snake oil or detrimental according to some.
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Ragingsheep posted:Is Macrium Reflect better or should I just stick with the Samsung Data Migration tool? Funny I just saw this post while I was about to make this one: Tried to copy with Macrium Reflect for a Windows 10 drive and it booted on the 850 fine until I actually hit the desktop, then the screen would not stop flickering no matter what I did. Which was limited as input kept getting eaten everytime it reloaded. Suspect some video driver issue. Tried the Samsung tool and it worked fine 
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Im_Special posted:So I'm a new owner of a Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB, and also new to Widows 10, is it still recommended to turn off any OS defragging/optimizations it does to SSD's? That was the consensus years ago for Windows 7, not sure if things have changes with newer OS's. I also checked but didn't see any new firmware's for the 850, only the 840, so is the 850 up to date outta the box,? Also also, is Samsung Magician recommended, these kind of things tend to be snake oil or detrimental according to some. There's no new firmware for the 850 series, so no need to worry about that at this point. Magician's RAPID mode caching is by some considered potentially detrimental in that you might lose a minute amount of unwritten data in case of sudden power loss (which may happen anyway) and the OS doesn't know about it. But it's mostly that there isn't great agreement on whether it actually provides a worthwhile benefit, what with the OS doing similar caching and speeds being sufficient anyway. Some consider the caching only useful for gaming the benchmarks. Other swear by supposed real life speed improvements. Picking either side of the argument won't make you a massive loner idiot. Plenty of people will be on your side. There was a screenshot posted earlier where some option in Magician wasn't accessible because the user didn't agree to the collection of user data or something. Stuff like that annoys me enough to turn me off it, even though I've got no strong opinions on the rest. If it comforts you to have it running or not to have it running, go with that.
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Im_Special posted:So I'm a new owner of a Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB, and also new to Widows 10, is it still recommended to turn off any OS defragging/optimizations it does to SSD's? That was the consensus years ago for Windows 7, not sure if things have changes with newer OS's. Windows 7 and up knows what a SSD is and that it should not be defragmented. With Vista and XP you should turn it off, but not in newer systems. It will run a TRIM cycle instead of moving clusters around.
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Flipperwaldt posted:In Magician, you never needed to turn off optimizations, the warning was not to turn them on. The language on the buttons could be ambiguous. Just leave stuff at the defaults. As far as the OS is concerned, you shouldn't need to touch anything either. The issues with Magician: 1. Out of memory errors under heavy memory load 2. Possibility of losing data with power outage. 3. Doesn't seem to actually do anything useful
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redeyes posted:The issues with Magician: 4. Actually harmful "performance optimizations"
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nielsm posted:Windows 7 and up knows what a SSD is and that it should not be defragmented. With Vista and XP you should turn it off, but not in newer systems. With Windows 7, when switching to an SSD you need to re-run the Windows Experience Index so it detects that you've switched to an SSD and turns off the background defrag for you.
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redeyes posted:The issues with Magician:
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It looks like the op hasn't been updated in a while, so I thought I would ask. I'm looking for a high-capacity SSD. I'd like 2TB, but 1TB might work. Doesn't matter what form it's in as my motherboard supports the standard, M.2, and U.2 types. Also price: lower is obviously better, but not at the expense of longevity and performance. I want something that will last a while. I've done some searching but have had a hard time coming up with a decent solution.
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Swartz posted:It looks like the op hasn't been updated in a while, so I thought I would ask. Samsung 850 EVO if you are not too hard up on cash, otherwise try the Sandisk Ultra II.
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Swartz posted:It looks like the op hasn't been updated in a while, so I thought I would ask. The Sandisk X400 1TB might be your best choice, it's performance is better than the Ultra II, it has a 5 year warranty and is very cheap.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The Sandisk X400 1TB might be your best choice, it's performance is better than the Ultra II, it has a 5 year warranty and is very cheap. Perfect. Thank you 
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Thanatosian posted:My 256 GB 840 Pro is taking a poo poo, so I was thinking about upgrading from 7 to 10 when I install the new 500GB 850 EVO on the way (thanks, thread). What should my process be, given that I'm not confident the old drive could withstand a new OS install? I'm curious what makes you think it's dieing?
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redeyes posted:I'm curious what makes you think it's dieing? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3779486
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UK peeps might like this Amazon deal of the day https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00M8ABHVQ/ Sandisk Ultra II 960GB for £140 Lum fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Sandisk, but sure, good deal
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The 60GB OCZ Agility 3 I bought in 2011 or so and have had in constant use since then has started to occasionally refuse to initialize on boot with 47% of its life still left. I expected better from such a renowned brand!
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Ak Gara posted:Are there any m.2's that can actually use the 32gb/s available? If they're NVMe and not still stuck on the SATA standard then yeah, pretty sure they do have the ability to max out that bandwidth if I'm not mistaken.
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atomicthumbs posted:The 60GB OCZ Agility 3 I bought in 2011 or so and have had in constant use since then has started to occasionally refuse to initialize on boot with 47% of its life still left. I expected better from such a renowned brand! I just got a computer for recycling with an Agility 2 90GB that still works. Shocked me somewhat. Not only that, it has been powered off for 3 years and data was still fine on the thing.
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metallicaeg posted:If they're NVMe and not still stuck on the SATA standard then yeah, pretty sure they do have the ability to max out that bandwidth if I'm not mistaken. I've got my eye on a 1.2 TB Intel 750, but even that tops out at around 2.7 GB/s I regret buying an 'OS + a couple of games' sized SSD. I had to install DOOM to my HDD because my SSD only had 40 gig free. 
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Ak Gara posted:I've got my eye on a 1.2 TB Intel 750, but even that tops out at around 2.7 GB/s I've got both an Intel 750 1.2tb and 2xSamsung 850 EVO 1tb RAID-0. Both are pretty fast, though the Samsung option was by far cheaper. If you want a blazing fast boot drive, and have extra $$$, get the 750, but otherwise, for games, an SSD RAID-0 is probably better/cheaper.
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news from the OCZ front: managed to connect the drive to my desktop and image it, then it started initializing again in my laptop (though after a few retries of booting). now it's managed to corrupt ntfs.sys. I think it's trying to kill itself
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I got my dad a smallish 128GB Samsung SSD. Right now he has a 1TB rotational drive of which he's using ~600GB. Ideally I would like to clone his existing OS so I don't have to put up with complaints of him spending months to get his computer back to the way it was. What's the best way to do this? I was thinking of just moving his Documents, Music, Pictures, and Steam folder to a spare drive to get his usage down to under 100GB, do a clone, and then copy back over his files onto the 1TB drive. Is there a better way of doing this? Or should I bite the bullet and just do a fresh install?
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WhyteRyce posted:I got my dad a smallish 128GB Samsung SSD. Right now he has a 1TB rotational drive of which he's using ~600GB. Ideally I would like to clone his existing OS so I don't have to put up with complaints of him spending months to get his computer back to the way it was. What's the best way to do this? I was thinking of just moving his Documents, Music, Pictures, and Steam folder to a spare drive to get his usage down to under 100GB, do a clone, and then copy back over his files onto the 1TB drive. Is there a better way of doing this? Or should I bite the bullet and just do a fresh install? No, that does seem to be the best way of doing it. My dad and I went through that exact same process earlier this year.
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For you silly people using M.2 PCIe drives, the new SM961 is available for preorder in the UK at least http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/samsung_s_sm961_polaris_ssd_becomes_available_for_pre-order/1 Featuring the Polaris controller, not to be confused with the Polaris video cards 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:For you silly people using M.2 PCIe drives, the new SM961 is available for preorder in the UK at least Jesus! I hope they make a version with a heatsink.
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For a casual user, there's no real benefit to a PCIe/NVMe/Whatever special snowflake m.2 drive, right?
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PerrineClostermann posted:For a casual user, there's no real benefit to a PCIe/NVMe/Whatever special snowflake m.2 drive, right? But it is nice to have less cables/clutter in your PC.
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PerrineClostermann posted:For a casual user, there's no real benefit to a PCIe/NVMe/Whatever special snowflake m.2 drive, right? A few seconds faster boot time and nearly impercievable increases in game load time. Honestly the best use for them is professionals working with gigantic file sizes and giving MacBook Pro users something bragworthy. A year from now the PCIe M.2 drives will seem like 5400rpm drives compared to what Intel's hyping Optane drives up to be...provided they don't get bored of it like they did with SATA Express.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:A year from now the PCIe M.2 drives will seem like 5400rpm drives compared to what Intel's hyping Optane drives up to be...provided they don't get bored of it like they did with SATA Express.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:A year from now the PCIe M.2 drives will seem like 5400rpm drives compared to what Intel's hyping Optane drives up to be...provided they don't get bored of it like they did with SATA Express. Has there been info on what interface Optane will use? In the Intel demo Optane managed transfer speeds of 2GB/s and the PCIe M.2 can achieve twice that, so I would assume Optane will be available with M.2 for a long time.
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Saukkis posted:Has there been info on what interface Optane will use? In the Intel demo Optane managed transfer speeds of 2GB/s and the PCIe M.2 can achieve twice that, so I would assume Optane will be available with M.2 for a long time. Supposedly the first drives will be PCIe-based, but after that they've plans for drives that will be able to be dropped into specially-designed DIMM slots and able to be used as both memory *and* storage. The goal Intel is shooting for is making system memory and system storage the same thing. But yeah, Optane is going to seriously be pricey and almost certainly going to be for expense accounts and trust-fund builders only when it comes out, and those DIMM drives were mentioned as being paired up with Xeons specifically. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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