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Top Hats Monthly posted:I know that much but it does kinda feel like murder is an on/off switch. The legal system is fascinating Well there are other reasons too. For instance it was a completely different jury. The suit was filed in Santa Monica, which is more white, and where the jury comes from. On top of that, defendants can be subpoenaed to testify and OJ was. Lastly, having learned the lessons from the criminal trial, it was not televised and so the media repercussions were mitigated.
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Jun 18, 2016 19:39
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swickles posted:I was thinking, who does come off looking good in all this? Because there is only like one or two really so far.
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Jun 18, 2016 20:44
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Jun 18, 2016 23:57
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Aww, it cuts off the best part. After that he causualy tacks on "I have always said that." Getting rid of Skip was great because it just means letting SAS wander around and saying whatever he wants at all times.
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Jun 19, 2016 00:00
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LeBatard playing that over and over has been a real treat. I laugh every time.
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Jun 19, 2016 00:01
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Jun 19, 2016 01:41
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Holy poo poo the black people reaction and the horses reactions.
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Jun 19, 2016 02:14
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Letting a black guy off for murder doesn't make up for Rodney King, loving aholes.
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Jun 19, 2016 02:17
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swickles posted:I was thinking, who does come off looking good in all this? Because there is only like one or two really so far. OJ's friend who told him he was defying the laws of God seemed like a good enough guy. Al Cowlings seems like the best friend, even though his devotion was disastrously misguided. General Dog fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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Jun 19, 2016 03:11
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Holy poo poo we need an OJ avatar crew. That segment with the variety showor whatever was gold. Elvis OJ, with a mini-OJ, him dressed as a jewish stereotype, that was amazing.
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Jun 19, 2016 03:23
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Winkie01 posted:This memorabilia story is The shots of them walking through the casino lost are amazing It's like a really crappy Oceans movie.
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General Dog posted:OJ's friend who told him he was defying the laws of God seemed like a good enough guy. I dunno, does thinking OJ was innocent make you a bad person? When he was like "I still don't believe OJ was capable of that" I was rolling my eyes out of my head
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Jun 19, 2016 03:54
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one of the best docs I think I have ever seen. Someone on twitter said it best, did bill cosby ever play a sport?
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Winkie01 posted:Someone on twitter said it best, did bill cosby ever play a sport? I'm missing the joke here for sure but he played a couple of seasons of football for Temple.
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Jun 19, 2016 04:11
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I wasn't around to see OJ in his heyday of athletic ability and popularity so I don't have perspective into how stunning his downfall was for those who did. I imagine it was like seeing someone like Kevin Durant convicted of double murder 20 years from now.
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Winkie01 posted:This memorabilia story is So, back when I worked for a sports framing company, I get a call from a guy on the West Coast looking to sell some photos that were signed in Vegas. The dude sounded squirrelly as hell, and the photos were something that, due to legit contracts with Michigan and Michigan State, we couldn't use. I explain that, and the guy asks who else we have deals with. He mentions that he tried to get a deal with Playboy, got his daughter set up to be a Playmate, but she ended up getting beaten by Hugh Hefner's son, and that ended the deal. At this point, I was already not giving this guy money for anything, but now I wanted to see if he was a con artist or something. A quick Google search of the daughter and the circumstances, and I found the guy's name: Tom Riccio. And the photos he was selling? Johnny Manziel autographed 8x10s, some of the ones that got him suspended.
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Jun 19, 2016 04:50
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Anywhere other than the greater-LA area, OJ would have been convicted, right? Like if he'd been living up in Buffalo or San Fran at the time, I can't see it turning into the shitshow it did.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Anywhere other than the greater-LA area, OJ would have been convicted, right? Like if he'd been living up in Buffalo or San Fran at the time, I can't see it turning into the shitshow it did. It's kind of an impossible hypothetical, because OJ wouldn't have been nearly as famous if he didn't live in LA.
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nachos posted:I wasn't around to see OJ in his heyday of athletic ability and popularity so I don't have perspective into how stunning his downfall was for those who did. I imagine it was like seeing someone like Kevin Durant convicted of double murder 20 years from now. Yes, but also pretend that Kevin Durant was in a bunch of high grossing movies (OJ was supposed to be the Terminator!). Oh and pretend that you have never seen a black person in a commercial before seeing KD in one.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Anywhere other than the greater-LA area, OJ would have been convicted, right? Like if he'd been living up in Buffalo or San Fran at the time, I can't see it turning into the shitshow it did. He would have been convicted for sure if the trial was moved to same place Rodney King had his trial.
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swickles posted:He would have been convicted for sure if the trial was moved to same place Rodney King had his trial. White people liked OJ tho. Also that cop friend of OJ who figured out OJ did it and cut ties seemed like a good guy.
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There was probably a better way to phrase what I wanted to ask last night, but I still can't figure it out this morning.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:02
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gently caress Marcia Clark. Watching this whole thing, the people I feel the worst for are Ron Goldman's Dad, the black LAPD officer who I can't recall the name of, and Nicole's sister. Jesus christ this whole thing is heartbreaking and hearing/seeing OJ just laugh everything off in the deposition in the civil trial makes me super angry
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Ross Angeles posted:gently caress Marcia Clark. I feel really bad for Goldman's dad, and far be it from me to tell others how to grieve, but that guy has just let himself be consumed by anger for 20 years now. He's let the man who killed his son basically ruin his life as well. You can honor Ron's memory by letting go, dawg.
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This doc does such a great job putting the entire sordid tale in context with intersection of institutionalized racism, celebrity culture, domestic violence, the flaws in our judicial system, and the complicity of mass media in perpetuating the OJ circus. Really outstanding work imo
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Kind of a weird way to feel about it, but I felt really angry at OJ for blowing basically the biggest second chance anybody could ever receive. If I got out of a pickle like that, I'd basically take it as divine intervention and wander the earth like Jules at the end of Pulp Fiction.
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You guys should have watched the FX OJ show a few months ago when Ross and John Travolta team up to save OJ. At one point, Fuhrman is literally polishing Nazi medals in the dark.
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Sash! posted:You guys should have watched the FX OJ show a few months ago when Ross and John Travolta team up to save OJ. I saw it and don't remember this. How do you know what he's polishing if it's dark?
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I felt like it was a little disingenuous of the interviewer to act like Sheck shouldn't have brought up the idea of Fuhrman planting evidence because he himself might not have believed it's true. I'm not a lawyer but as far as I understand, it's his job to bring up every possible defense so that the state has to prove why that defense isn't valid and everyone can be satisfied that the state had to prove its case that the defendant is guilty. The interviewer kept being like "but do you think the evidence was planted???" and evil music played while he said "It doesn't matter what I think", but I mean that's actually true though isn't it?
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General Dog posted:Kind of a weird way to feel about it, but I felt really angry at OJ for blowing basically the biggest second chance anybody could ever receive. If I got out of a pickle like that, I'd basically take it as divine intervention and wander the earth like Jules at the end of Pulp Fiction. What 2nd chance? Sure he wasn't in prison but he was (rightly) ostracized by everything and everyone. A few black churches let him speak a few times but for the most part he had nothing left. Combine that with him letting the mask to his narcissism and whatever the gently caress else wrong with him slip off and you get this 10 times out of 10. He seemed to live a miserable existence from the time after the trail until he was busted for the robbery. He's probably better off in prison tbh. Chromatic fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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General Dog posted:I saw it and don't remember this. How do you know what he's polishing if it's dark? I can't remember which one it was, but it showed him putting an Iron Cross in a display case while looking out his apartment window at night. It was the tail end of one of the episodes.
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Chromatic posted:What 2nd chance? Sure he wasn't in prison but he was (rightly) ostracized by everything and everyone. A few black churches let him speak a few times but for the most part he had nothing left. Combine that with him letting the mask to his narcissism and whatever the gently caress else wrong with him slip off and you get this 10 times out of 10. He's treated like a godfather in prison, from what I hear. Also his Miami rap song was in appallingly bad taste.
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Stefan Prodan posted:I felt like it was a little disingenuous of the interviewer to act like Sheck shouldn't have brought up the idea of Fuhrman planting evidence because he himself might not have believed it's true. I'm not a lawyer but as far as I understand, it's his job to bring up every possible defense so that the state has to prove why that defense isn't valid and everyone can be satisfied that the state had to prove its case that the defendant is guilty. The interviewer kept being like "but do you think the evidence was planted???" and evil music played while he said "It doesn't matter what I think", but I mean that's actually true though isn't it? Yes.
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The older juror they interviewed saying "if she stayed with him after getting beaten I don't feel sorry for her" was  I hope she was the only who thought that way because gently caress.
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commy gun posted:The older juror they interviewed saying "if she stayed with him after getting beaten I don't feel sorry for her" was Hearing the comments in the doc from both of the jurors almost sent me into a rage.
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