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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Do I want universal health care? Absolutely. Do I think using medicare is the best way to get there? No. Mind expanding on this? Opening Medicare for all seems like one of the simplest ways we could get actual UHC in this country.
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That really sucks that Trump somehow successfully identified and dealt with a problem within his campaign by firing his campaign manager. Who is the guy he kept instead and how competent/incompetent is he?
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Jun 20, 2016 15:43
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Ive never heard of Manafort so I decided to google him.  The dude is literally a loving villain henchman.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:44
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That really sucks that Trump somehow successfully identified and dealt with a problem within his campaign by firing his campaign manager. Who is the guy he kept and how competent/incompetent is he? He's incompetent enough to let trump fire the other manager on monday morning
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Jun 20, 2016 15:45
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I just finished that National Review article. He's got a point about small towns. I totally get that not everyone can afford to leave but for whatever reason small town people feel an unreasonable pride in places that are objective shitholes and extremely high dependence of the family. Did he have any kids? The opportunity of free child care from family when you need it is a pretty big deal.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:46
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That really sucks that Trump somehow successfully identified and dealt with a problem within his campaign by firing his campaign manager. Who is the guy he kept instead and how competent/incompetent is he? The guy he kept is Manafort, the guy who is making him do the teleprompter poo poo. Unknown whether he made him fire Lewandowski on a monday morning so the news can talk about it all week.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:47
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That really sucks that Trump somehow successfully identified and dealt with a problem within his campaign by firing his campaign manager. Who is the guy he kept instead and how competent/incompetent is he? I'm glad you put that "a problem" in there because of course the biggest problem with the Trump campaign is the man he won't ever fire. Here's the deal on Manafort: quote:In one case, Manafort tried unsuccessfully to build a luxury high-rise in Manhattan with money from a billionaire backer of a Ukrainian president whom he had advised. He's stolen money from oligarchs and gotten away with it with his life so advising Trump is a pretty plum gig. He'd make the perfect Chief of Staff for the Trump Administration. Edit: Hey here's more quote:Manafort received $700,000 from the Kashmiri American Council between 1990 and 1994, supposedly to promote the plight of the Kashmiri people. However, an FBI investigation revealed the money was actually from Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence agency as part of a "false flag" operation to divert attention from terrorism. A former Pakistani ISI official claimed Manafort was aware of the nature of the operation.[12] While producing a documentary as part of the deal, Manafort interviewed several Indian officials while pretending to be a CNN reporter.[13] quote:He also worked as an adviser on the Ukrainian presidential campaign of Viktor Yanukovych[16] even as the U.S. government (and McCain) opposed Yanukovych because of his ties to Russia's Vladimir Putin.[6] Manafort was hired to advise Yanukovych months after massive street demonstrations known as the Orange Revolution overturned Yanukovych's victory in the 2004 presidential race. [17] Borys Kolesnikov, Yanukovich’s campaign manager, said the party hired Manafort after identifying organizational and other problems in the 2004 elections, in which it was advised by Russian strategists. [16] Manafort rebuffed U.S. Ambassador William Taylor when the latter complained he was undermining U.S. interests in Ukraine.[18] Truly a public servant and a patriot. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 15:47
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WampaLord posted:Mind expanding on this? Opening Medicare for all seems like one of the simplest ways we could get actual UHC in this country. Well it isn't, because Medicare is actually highly restrictive on what is covered by it and not by private insurance. The simplest way by far is tighten regulations on private insurers again while raising the top income bar to be on Medicaid up past the mean household income (NOT the median household income, we're looking to grab a majority of people in the eligibility). Just in case you're wondering, mean household income is about $73,000 a year while median household income is about $52,000 a year. Currently, in states with the Medicaid expansion the household income limit to be on Medicaid is close to $29,000 a year and in states without the expansion it's lower apparently?
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Jun 20, 2016 15:48
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Antti posted:I'm glad you put that "a problem" in there because of course the biggest problem with the Trump campaign is the man he won't ever fire.  at the thought that Trump's list of cabinet staff can't get security clearances because they're in hock to every rear end in a top hat from Berlusconi to Sisi to Yanukovich.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:49
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Utah vs Strieff decision came down today. The question was:quote:When a police officer stops a pedestrian in violation of the law, asks him for identification, discovers that there is a traffic warrant for his arrest, arrests him, and in the process of searching him discovers drug paraphernalia and methamphetamines, can the evidence found in the search of the pedestrian be used against him? Edward Strieff argues that it cannot: because the police officer’s stop was illegal, then anything obtained as a result of the stop is also tainted. The state, on the other hand, contends that the evidence should be admitted because it resulted from the lawful warrant for his arrest, rather than the illegal stop. And the decision summary: quote:We hold that the evidence the officer seized as part of the search incident to arrest is admissible because the officer’s discovery of the arrest warrant attenuated the connection between the unlawful stop and the evidence seized incident to arrest. Thomas/Kennedy/Breyer/Alito/Roberts concurrence, Sotomayor/Kagan/Ginsburg dissent
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Jun 20, 2016 15:49
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Arrgytehpirate posted:He was and is single. By family I mean small towns put a TON of value in cousins and uncles and aunts and poo poo like that. Immediate family is obviously a great reason but shooting yourself in the foot for extended family is something I will never comprehend. Why do you put such a high value on work versus family? What value do you gain by leaving your friends, family, and home just so you can be an assistant manager at loving Wal-Mart?
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Jun 20, 2016 15:50
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FAUXTON posted:
Paul Manafort should probably be in prison. He should probably be in multiple prisons in multiple countries. Maybe President Trump is his ticket to not getting extraordinarily renditioned to a basement underneath the Kremlin. Edit: Does the Chief of Staff have diplomatic immunity? Imagine Manafort flying to Kiev with President Trump on Air Force One and getting arrested for having aided and abetted in defrauding the Ukrainian government. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 15:51
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fishmech posted:Well it isn't, because Medicare is actually highly restrictive on what is covered by it and not by private insurance. Doesn't Medicaid have it's own host of problems, like a shitton of doctors not accepting it? I will fully admit I'm fairly ignorant on these things.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:54
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Antti posted:Paul Manafort should probably be in prison. He should probably be in multiple prisons in multiple countries. Maybe President Trump is his ticket to not getting extraordinarily renditioned to a basement underneath the Kremlin. That's the kind of poo poo they deny security clearances over - nobody cares if you smoke weed once in a while or if you were bankrupt once, they care if someone can use something to coax information out of you, like offering a huge bag of weed or offering to pay off long-running insurmountable debts. Manafort knowing his freedom from getting tortured to death by Putin's goons is contingent on Trump being in power until Putin is out means he'll put Trump above a whole lot of things including the law. Antti posted:Edit: Does the Chief of Staff have diplomatic immunity? Imagine Manafort flying to Kiev with President Trump on Air Force One and getting arrested for having aided and abetted in defrauding the Ukrainian government. I imagine the Chief of Staff would have diplomatic immunity, though the laws of man are not exactly something Putin gives a poo poo about up front.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:55
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Armyman25 posted:Why do you put such a high value on work versus family? What value do you gain by leaving your friends, family, and home just so you can be an assistant manager at loving Wal-Mart? There's value on bettering yourself.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:56
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Armyman25 posted:Why do you put such a high value on work versus family? What value do you gain by leaving your friends, family, and home just so you can be an assistant manager at loving Wal-Mart? I was able to move out of my parents house. It's highly unlikely I would have ever been able to do that if I had stayed. There simply isn't much upward mobility where I'm from. An unwillingness to go where the jobs are is just as prevalent as the inability to go where the jobs are. Besides, assistant manager is just a step. You can turn that into a managers position at another company in a few years. Possibly one closer to home if you want. Taking a job that isn't your ideal is frequently needed to climb the ladder successfully. Also two hours isn't not some insurmountable distance. It's easily within weekend visit range and emergency travel range without having to worry about suddenly affording an airline ticket.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:57
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Ok, so Manafort is a literal James Bond villain. But is he capable of making the Trump campaign less of a total clown show? Because apparently the dude they fired was behind the idea of "Let Trump be Trump" as a strategy. I know Trump is an egotistical narcissist who cannot stay on script without saying something terrible but I don't like anything that might help him. Yes I'm arzying a bit.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:59
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god drat reddit is stupid https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/4oyl60/eli5why_is_it_so_important_that_the_us_president/
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Jun 20, 2016 16:01
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ok, so Manafort is a literal James Bond villain. But is he capable of making the Trump campaign less of a total clown show? Because apparently the dude they fired was behind the idea of "Let Trump be Trump" as a strategy. I know Trump is an egotistical narcissist who cannot stay on script without saying something terrible but I don't like anything that might help him. I don't think it's really possible to know, since there is little substantial info about the inner workings of the "campaign." But it is very unlikely to be enough to catapult him to victory given how disastrous everything Trump is right now
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Jun 20, 2016 16:02
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ok, so Manafort is a literal James Bond villain. But is he capable of making the Trump campaign less of a total clown show? Because apparently the dude they fired was behind the idea of "Let Trump be Trump" as a strategy. I know Trump is an egotistical narcissist who cannot stay on script without saying something terrible but I don't like anything that might help him. As I hinted earlier, the biggest problem is Trump, and if Manafort is going to put his foot down and really stop Trump being Trump, he'll just fire Manafort and find someone else. The campaign's still going to be a gong show inside.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:05
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I know he won't know suddenly win but I'd rather his downward trajectory not be halted so soon when he had so much momentum working against him.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:08
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ok, so Manafort is a literal James Bond villain. But is he capable of making the Trump campaign less of a total clown show? Because apparently the dude they fired was behind the idea of "Let Trump be Trump" as a strategy. I know Trump is an egotistical narcissist who cannot stay on script without saying something terrible but I don't like anything that might help him. They fired the "let trump be trump" guy, but kept the "make trump use a teleprompter" guy
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Jun 20, 2016 16:08
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FAUXTON posted:That's the kind of poo poo they deny security clearances over - nobody cares if you smoke weed once in a while or if you were bankrupt once, they care if someone can use something to coax information out of you, like offering a huge bag of weed or offering to pay off long-running insurmountable debts. Manafort knowing his freedom from getting tortured to death by Putin's goons is contingent on Trump being in power until Putin is out means he'll put Trump above a whole lot of things including the law. Just a reminder that the President can give a security clearance to anyone he wants to because he's the loving president. So that fact that Manafort would have one of the most hilarious SF-85s ever written does not keep him from becoming Secretary of State.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:09
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FCKGW posted:There's value on bettering yourself. You are not defined by your profession. Your net worth is not your true value.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:10
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Ceiling fan posted:Just a reminder that the President can give a security clearance to anyone he wants to because he's the loving president. So that fact that Manafort would have one of the most hilarious SF-85s ever written does not keep him from becoming Secretary of State.  this day keeps getting better
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Jun 20, 2016 16:11
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know he won't know suddenly win but I'd rather his downward trajectory not be halted so soon when he had so much momentum working against him. It's gotta last us until November.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:11
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WampaLord posted:Doesn't Medicaid have it's own host of problems, like a shitton of doctors not accepting it? I will fully admit I'm fairly ignorant on these things. It only has as much of a problem with that as there is with doctors not accepting Medicare - so trying to modify Medicare to work for everything would have the same issue. Once again though, in states that didn't refuse the Medicaid expansion there's a whole lot less cases of being on Medicaid keeping you from using most doctors. As an aside, this country could do with a lot more funding of these facilities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_net_hospital
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Jun 20, 2016 16:13
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DemeaninDemon posted:It's gotta last us until November. What does?
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Jun 20, 2016 16:17
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Based on my own experiences with a clinical narcissist like Trump, we've barely seen anything yet. The irrational behavior is just getting started. Normally a narcissist can do a reasonably decent job of controlling they're nastier impulses to restrict them from being brazenly displayed in public in such a manner that it will change the narrative about the narcissist. However, Trump has been binging on narcissistic Supply for over a year now, and it's taking a toll on him. I expect that normally Trump would have at least had the impulse control to fire Corey on a Friday in order to minimize the damage to the narrative, but at present Trump has been so high for so long that even by Trump standards he isn't thinking clearly. Just like a meth addict on an extended binge, the longer the bench goes on the harsher the physical consequences and the more pronounced the attendant irrational behavior becomes as well. We very likely have not seen the last of such dramatic firings, it'll be interesting to see if Manaford is able to remain in Trump good graces now that he's won his spat with Corey. If my analysis is correct then we are going to see the continued erosion of the public face that Trump relied on up to this point, basically the mask that he wears is falling apart. Eventually we will see the real Donald Trump come out in public, the real Donald Trump who goes on random and unpredictable profanity-filled tirades where he destroys things. Buckle up, this is going to be one hell of a show.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:23
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What does? The train wreck known as Donald Trump's Campaign.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:24
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https://twitter.com/MichaelRCaputo/status/744889850914971648 Only the most professionalism from the Trump staff, folks, only the most professional behavior. (Caputo is Trump's New York state campaign director)
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Jun 20, 2016 16:25
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WampaLord posted:Mind expanding on this? Opening Medicare for all seems like one of the simplest ways we could get actual UHC in this country. I'll piggy back a little bit off fishmech, but go a little further. Medicare itself needs reformed before I'd want to put a whole bunch of people on it. Myy sort of proposal (not paid for, clearly) would look something like this: Reform Medicare/Medicaid to have more comprehensive coverage and require less pay in from users and nationalize it, taking it out of the state's hands to hold things hostage for it. Expand Medicaid eligibility to any single person making less than $35,000 a year, or couples making less than $60,000. And make it available to anyone regardless of their immigration status. Let anyone who does not receive coverage from their employer and not in that bracket above buy into a government sponsored healthcare plan (which would revert all us government employees back to that plan, instead of the exchange) or buy one off a nationally ran, state-centric exchange. (That is, make the exchanges be ran by the DHHS) Create cooperatives for small businesses to pool together to buy insurance as groups so they can offer their employees coverage with better bargaining power. Regulate the Prescription Drug Industry like virtually every other country in the world does. No more spending a billion dollars a year on ads for you, Big Pharma Expand CHIPS and opt every single child into it. Invest in a network of rural healthcare clinics that are low-cost. That's just a start.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:29
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Talmonis posted:You are not defined by your profession. Your net worth is not your true value. You guys are focusing on this wrong (the job/money itself). The idea that he would have to move to pursue an opportunity and do so in a position where he'd learn/earn a wider skill set is valid. It's also valid at a personal level in relationships. Some ponds are just bigger.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:30
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Has anyone here worked for their current job for more than two years? In the industry I'm entering it seems to be common to move every two years and sooner if possible. At least until you're in a position or market that you enjoy. Start in a small local market, or if you're good a midsize market or like a state paper. After a year or two shop yourself around to bigger markets. If you enjoy where you are leverage those offers for a higher salary, otherwise move on. Repeat until you can't.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:34
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Has anyone here worked for their current job for more than two years? In the industry I'm entering it seems to be common to move every two years and sooner if possible. At least until you're in a position or market that you enjoy. Before moving into my current job in February, I had been in my previous job for almost eight years and could have easily remained there if I wanted.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:35
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Has anyone here worked for their current job for more than two years? In the industry I'm entering it seems to be common to move every two years and sooner if possible. At least until you're in a position or market that you enjoy. Depends on your goals and the career path you've chosen. Some people want to set down roots and make a family, for instance. Constantly moving about hurts that.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:37
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Combed Thunderclap posted:https://twitter.com/MichaelRCaputo/status/744889850914971648 yeah but is he talking about Lewandowski or the campaign?
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Jun 20, 2016 16:43
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So apparently the Lewandowski firing came after an early morning meeting with Trump's family. Adds further credence to my own belief that Trump's closest advisors and the only people he trusts are his nuclear family.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:44
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Boon posted:So apparently the Lewandowski firing came after an early morning meeting with Trump's family. lol if this was a spontaneous impulse and not at all planned out like that implies. Think Lew will now throw everyone under the bus? I hope so.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Has anyone here worked for their current job for more than two years? In the industry I'm entering it seems to be common to move every two years and sooner if possible. At least until you're in a position or market that you enjoy. Going on 9 years
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