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When you see those statistics saying "the average Americans throws away X thousand pounds of food every year!", remember that people like him are dragging the average way up. 
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Devian666 posted:I see he also talks about food waste. Is it some sort of tradition to buy so much food that you just throw it away? It's all salad ingredients but I swear honey THIS TIME I'm going to take that salad to work and start eating better I MEAN IT THIS TIME *orders wings with coworkers again* e: I swear I am not projecting myself on some internet stranger I totally never do this.
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We make a menu each week, shop for it and as a result have zero food waste. Most people just go to the store and impulse purchase tons of fruit and stuff which they leave in the fridge to rot. Especially grapes and oranges.
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Jun 20, 2016 01:04
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I can only imagine bottles of nice wine figure into that bill as well
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Jun 20, 2016 01:18
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4o17if/college_senior_want_to_take_out_a_12k_loan_for_a/ posted:I'm a Mechanical Engineering student in his senior year. I'm going to graduate with approximately $25k in debt. The car in question: http://imgur.com/a/UibYu *Quark voice* it's a faaaaaake
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Jun 20, 2016 01:20
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quote:Paypal (Delivery food): $575 Maybe they're just really generous tippers 
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Youth Decay posted:The car in question: http://imgur.com/a/UibYu *Quark voice* it's a faaaaaake
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Youth Decay posted:The car in question: http://imgur.com/a/UibYu *Quark voice* it's a faaaaaake I'm the "everything work*" on the for sale sign Edit: should have zoomed in, it's just an s, but I want to believe
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Youth Decay posted:The car in question: http://imgur.com/a/UibYu *Quark voice* it's a faaaaaake How can you tell? Genuinely curious here, I know nothing about old cars.
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Jun 20, 2016 02:22
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Devian666 posted:I thought I was overspending by purchasing $50 of luxury food items yesterday. I see I'm out of my league with at least $3500/month on gently caress knows what. I see he also talks about food waste. Is it some sort of tradition to buy so much food that you just throw it away? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4Frslsq8M
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Jun 20, 2016 03:24
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cowofwar posted:We make a menu each week, shop for it and as a result have zero food waste. Hear hear. My mother keeps buying pumpkin over and over, which keeps rotting in the fridge, until it eventually gets thrown in the compost, and the cycle repeats again. The less said about the watermelon, the better. It used to really annoy me, but it's not really my problem now.
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Jun 20, 2016 03:30
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maybe they're using the safeway delivery rather than going to the store to get it, that has a bunch of markup included in every item as well as a $13 delivery fee
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Jun 20, 2016 03:37
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How the gently caress do you get to having two kids who didn't die in infancy and not know basic poo poo like how to grocery shop? Is it just a testament to the hardiness of the species?
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NancyPants posted:How the gently caress do you get to having two kids who didn't die in infancy and not know basic poo poo like how to grocery shop? Is it just a testament to the hardiness of the species? I think it's more about a lack of pressure. They can afford to spend that much, so they do. Maybe they can't afford it comfortably, but there hasn't been enough pressure to force them to do anything about it. Now, there's something causing them to actually address the issue. Having said that, if you can't figure out how to get your monthly food budget for four people under $3,800, you're bordering on actual mental retardation. "Hmm... $400 per month in Starbucks coffee... $500 per month in Cheetos and Slim Jims from Walgreens... $500 per month having food delivered to the house because I'm not in the mood for Cheetos and Slim Jims... I just don't know where to start trimming the fat from this budget!" [Throws hands up in exasperation]
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Jun 20, 2016 06:35
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cowofwar posted:We make a menu each week, shop for it and as a result have zero food waste. Alternatively, a person can always make stuff with over-ripe fruit or wilting vegetables if they're willing to cook something other than the three recipes they mastered in college.
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The difference in cost between cooking for one from scratch and buying ready made processed poo poo gets astronomical when you add people. With the former you add about 20% per person, with the latter it's a multiple. Presumably they never adjusted the way they cook while transitioning between single, couple and family.
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Any of you guys following the 'my housemate is a wannabe slumlord' thread? It's concluded...Forceholy posted:Just got a text from M about the room. O took it down. I don't know if management got to him or if he saw the light of his stupidity or if he took it down in a huff because he couldn't get any buyers. All I know is that there is no more room. Not that it matters, anyway. We're all moving out this week. Sorry you guys are not gonna get to see O get his just deserts. I'm just ready to move on. Oh I wish I were a fly on the wall for this conversation... Forceholy posted:I can only give you the highlights. All the players included:
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Centripetal Horse posted:I think it's more about a lack of pressure. They can afford to spend that much, so they do. Maybe they can't afford it comfortably, but there hasn't been enough pressure to force them to do anything about it. Now, there's something causing them to actually address the issue. Honestly the starbucks offends me the least in that. $400 per month is $10/pp/day. It's a mountain of money, but it's not the problem. It's two drinks/day or a drink and a sandwich. As I recall they're spending $2,400/month at the grocery store. That is $1,000 more than you would spend if you exclusively shopped at whole foods with a budget of $100/person/week. I want to know how much these people make, or how much credit card debt they're in, that an extra $2,000/month on groceries isn't putting a serious strain on their finances. I assume they just aren't paying into retirement and have no savings.
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Mocking Bird posted:I can only imagine bottles of nice wine figure into that bill as well FrozenVent posted:How can you tell? Genuinely curious here, I know nothing about old cars. Again without knowing poo poo about this, I assume its overpriced at 12k.
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To me the most amazing part of spending that much money is that they are literally pissing and making GBS threads out over 100 dollars a day, every single day.
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Jun 20, 2016 16:23
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And more than 10 of that is on Starbucks, accelerating the process
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Jun 20, 2016 17:07
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BraveUlysses posted:To me the most amazing part of spending that much money is that they are literally pissing and making GBS threads out over 100 dollars a day, every single day. It seems more likely that they're just throwing out a shitload of spoiled food. Probably they buy a bunch of meat (meat is the only thing I can think of where you can rack up a grocery bill that high, or high end wine and other alcohol), plan on cooking it, then order delivery food instead, the meat goes bad and they toss it. The $350 on Starbucks is actually the least offensive thing about that budget. Sure, it's not necessary, but it's also not the problem when you're spending $2k a month at grocery stores. My mind boggles on how to spend that much. It's like they're trying to play Supermarket Sweep, but the twist is they have to pay for it all.
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I'm sure those people are idiots, but let me give you a comparison: I just put the last six months of transactions in my pivot table and it turns out that in that time, my family of four spent $12472 on food (grocery and restaurants), not including alcohol bought to take home (I categorize that as entertainment). Holy poo poo, that's $2078 a month! Holy poo poo, that's $69 a day! Holy poo poo, that's $5.77 per meal per person! Oh wait, that actually sounds pretty reasonable. Families with growing children don't survive on Ramen and frozen pizza.
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500 per person per month isn't reasonable. Sorry. It doesn't cost anywhere near that much to have stuff that's not ramen / frozen pizza. For $5.77 per meal you could literally eat a fast food restaurant meal every meal, or have a whole loaf of bread with a small jar of peanut butter. It's kind of insane. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 17:40
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What's the appropriate percentage of net income to spend on food?
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Yeah, that's ridiculous. Kids need fewer calories than you, and you're probably not going out to restaurants nearly as often. What are you wasting your money on? Maybe you're like my sister who buys her toddler craptons of packaged 100% organic Gogurts that he just squirts all over the couch. Subjunctive, why on earth would it be a percentage of income? Do you need to eat more if you're a lawyer than if you're a janitor or something? We average spend $350/per person each month, and that's with going out to eat probably 3-4 times a week in a very HCOL area. And we waste a lot of food because we're lovely cooks. If you're trying to budget, I don't think $200-300 per person is unreasonable at all.
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High Lord Elbow posted:I'm sure those people are idiots, but let me give you a comparison:
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Subjunctive posted:What's the appropriate percentage of net income to spend on food? Back in the Greatest Generation Greatest Depression days it was 36%. It's now 10%. There's a reason we're all fat fucks. If food was this cheap back then, it would've been fatties storming the beaches at Normandy getting shot by fat Germans barely fitting in their concrete pillboxes. moana posted:Yeah, that's ridiculous. Kids need fewer calories than you, and you're probably not going out to restaurants nearly as often. What are you wasting your money on? Maybe you're like my sister who buys her toddler craptons of packaged 100% organic Gogurts that he just squirts all over the couch. Maybe little kids. When they hit puberty they easily eat more than a grown overweight adult. My 11 year old daughter will be sitting there eating lunch and asking for details about dinner. I can't even imagine what it's like with a boy. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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moana posted:Subjunctive, why on earth would it be a percentage of income? Do you need to eat more if you're a lawyer than if you're a janitor or something? We average spend $350/per person each month, and that's with going out to eat probably 3-4 times a week in a very HCOL area. No, and you don't take up more space if you're a lawyer than a janitor, but we express housing in terms percentage of income. I'm just trying to figure out what the Responsible Amount is. (I like to eat fish, steak and fresh berries, I fear I might be overinvesting in my food enjoyment.)
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Subjunctive posted:(I like to eat fish, steak and fresh berries, I fear I might be overinvesting in my food enjoyment.)
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Who gives a poo poo as long as you're hitting your financial goals. That's what I figured, but then we got into the $10-on-coffee-deserves-a-stoning stuff and I wasn't sure what the rightthink was any more.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Who gives a poo poo as long as you're hitting your financial goals. This. Also, eating lots of fish and berries has a lot of health benefits. I know it inflates your grocery bill but, -shrug-, we all decide what we are willing to cut back on to afford the things which we prioritize.
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Subjunctive posted:That's what I figured, but then we got into the $10-on-coffee-deserves-a-stoning stuff and I wasn't sure what the rightthink was any more. Find a system that works for you, and as long as you're hitting your financial goals (and the goals are reasonable, which is the bigger overall consideration to me) then keep on doing your thing.
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High Lord Elbow posted:Holy poo poo, that's $2078 a month! Great, you're about half of what the BWM story that was linked. No poo poo that yours seems more reasonable, because it is more reasonable!
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Who gives a poo poo as long as you're hitting your financial goals. e: I just tried to add up food spending, expecting us to be more than 2000/mo (for five of us) because I am rich and give no shits, but I don't think we are anywhere near that. gvibes fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 18:25
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moana posted:Yeah, that's ridiculous. Kids need fewer calories than you, and you're probably not going out to restaurants nearly as often. What are you wasting your money on? Maybe you're like my sister who buys her toddler craptons of packaged 100% organic Gogurts that he just squirts all over the couch. If you spend $350/person while eating out 12-15 times a month, then your restaurant choices aren't that expensive. From what I've seen, some of the people who can afford it start going to $50-100 per meal places rather than $10 per meal. Especially if people in their social circle also make a lot of money. Some of them also get personal chefs or someone who does both cooking and childcare.
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e: quoted wrong posterHigh Lord Elbow posted:I'm sure those people are idiots, but let me give you a comparison: How do you even spend $500 a month per person on food? Do you solely/predominantly buy convenience items or do you need special food? Do you throw out half of it? Over the last 3 months my husband and I spent on average $700 a month on food between groceries, restaurants, and alcohol consumed out of the house. Fully $76 of that was my husband eating out for breakfast and/or lunch. $366 of that was groceries, for the two of us. Our at-home meals contain grains less than half the time, and when we do buy them they are expensive because I have to get the gluten free kind (on top of his normal stuff) which can be as much as 8 times the equivalent product, or we buy pre-portioned rice to limit the quantity, which is also expensive compared to a bag from the Asian market. I often buy pork which is like $5 a pound because it's pre-sliced super thin for stir fry (will stop doing THAT now that I see that figure), I can't remember the last time I made a hamburger instead of buying them pre-made, and we eat steak way more than I'm going to admit. Husband won't eat tofu because he's convinced it'll give him boobs and I'm done arguing about it because I also believe some stupid poo poo so we'll let it ride. If you can do math, you can see what we spent on eating and drinking out. I spend $25 every 2 months on a box of protein bars so I have something easily packed that I can replace a meal with if I need to (and because I'm lazy), and he buys them singly and spends like $15 a month on them. How did two active adults spend less per person, including an embarrassing figure for eating and drinking out, than a family with children? Does it require teenaged boys that need to put down 5000 calories a day or something? BonerGhost fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Are we including bars in the food costs? Because I usually drop $100 each weekend on bars. Then again that's the majority of my "food" costs. I basically spend another $140 in groceries for the month and that $100 includes eating out during those bar nights.
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NancyPants posted:How do you even spend $500 a month per person on food? Do you solely/predominantly buy convenience items or do you need special food? Do you throw out half of it? It's just nice restaurants. We had a busy month with going out with friends, and around here any nominally not 'hole in the wall' nice restaurant is going to be $40-50 a head after tax and generous tip. We had 4 dinners out, which came to about $300. Both of us have 2-3 work lunches a month which is about $15-20 per meal coming to $100. Then $600 on groceries for the rest of the month. This is not typical of course. We budgeted and paid out of our discretionaries for it, we're usually around low $700's for a typical month. But just how it can happen in a relatively reasonable manner. Solice Kirsk posted:Are we including bars in the food costs? Because I usually drop $100 each weekend on bars. Then again that's the majority of my "food" costs. I basically spend another $140 in groceries for the month and that $100 includes eating out during those bar nights. Yeah I never count my alcohol spending in groceries because I have fancy taste in wine. Whoops. I buy handles of hard alcohol and pregame with friends to lower my bar spending. Rurutia fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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We spend 900/month of my wife, myself and 4 children. That includes formula for the twins. 500 per person seems like you're just making it rain at the butcher counter daily.
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