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Doing IT janitor work for 15 years has caused extreme apathy towards what I used to consider as a hobby.. As a rule I do no sidework at all. At one time I was accepting everyone who came to me. But it got to the point where many nights a week, after spending all day working on company systems, I would spend the entire night working on whatever piece of poo poo, 10+ year old, BestBuy/Walmart special someone brought me. Cleared up what I had and stopped accepting side jobs entirely. Best decision I ever made. Hell I barely want to fix my OWN machines anymore. Last time I had a major issue with my main home/gaming desktop, I let it sit for 2 weeks before I even felt like looking at it.
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I still put a deal of care into my own computer and for the most part I enjoy it, but if the problem gets too detailed or time consuming I say fuckit and build a new one. And if someone wants me to work on theirs, I can quickly come up with a price tag that'll make it worth my time. It doesn't happen often, but every once in a while I get a few hundred bucks for something simple. It also depends on who's asking. I had someone who offered me $100 to set up a regular home router, and the first thing he did when I arrived was offer me a beer and plate of cookies. Sure beats most people who just kinda point to their computer.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:27
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BOOTY-ADE posted:A-loving-MEN to this - I enjoy gaming and messing around on my computers at home but I've got to the point of playing stupid whenever someone asks me to fix theirs. They always gripe about cost to take it to a computer shop to fix, but expect someone they know (or barely know) to do everything for free because they happen to know that person from work or friends or whatever. I've had enough people ask me to help that I started telling them it's a minimum $50 for me to check/diagnose, then $20/hour after that for any fixes. Otherwise, take that poo poo to Geek Squad and leave me the gently caress alone, I don't need to be blamed for something stupid you did that I either couldn't fix, or ended up fixing and you broke it again. Cheap - Fast - Good. Pick 2. Most people pick free and good. Which means I'll fit them in sometime around
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Jun 20, 2016 20:31
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:And if someone wants me to work on theirs, I can quickly come up with a price tag that'll make it worth my time. It doesn't happen often, but every once in a while I get a few hundred bucks for something simple. It also depends on who's asking. I had someone who offered me $100 to set up a regular home router, and the first thing he did when I arrived was offer me a beer and plate of cookies. Sure beats most people who just kinda point to their computer. Barter system for the win. Had some old parts kicking around. A buddy's a plumber and needed some parts. He got some of my (still decent) old bits, and in exchange, installed my new dishwasher and fixed an outside faucet. Both of which I can do, but fuckit, the pro can do it faster/better/with less chance of me screwing up. I was more than happy to make that deal.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:42
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Siochain posted:Barter system for the win. Had some old parts kicking around. A buddy's a plumber and needed some parts. He got some of my (still decent) old bits, and in exchange, installed my new dishwasher and fixed an outside faucet. Both of which I can do, but fuckit, the pro can do it faster/better/with less chance of me screwing up. I was more than happy to make that deal. Yuuuup, I do this all the time. Sure, I can fix X thing on my car, Y plumbing issue, or Z electrical issue, but someone else can do it faster, so I'll trade my services, and fixing whatever dinky little thing on their machine will STILL be faster than me doing whatever other work myself would have been. Although I do the "free" thing for my parents, although I generally get food out of the deal.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:45
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MF_James posted:Yuuuup, I do this all the time. Sure, I can fix X thing on my car, Y plumbing issue, or Z electrical issue, but someone else can do it faster, so I'll trade my services, and fixing whatever dinky little thing on their machine will STILL be faster than me doing whatever other work myself would have been. That to. There's a few select friends, plus some family, I'll do things for. But I always get taken care of in some way (food, goods, cash, work on something, etc.) I just don't do things for random strangers.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:50
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MF_James posted:Although I do the "free" thing for my parents, although I generally get food out of the deal. Nothing you do for your parents is ever free. They paid for that poo poo years ago.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:52
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RFC2324 posted:Nothing you do for your parents is ever free. Well yeah obviously.
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Jun 20, 2016 20:53
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RFC2324 posted:Nothing you do for your parents is ever free. My father is the CIO (for lack of a better term) for a small manufacturing group, and I've had hour-long conversations about VMware capacity planning with him. I keep threatening to send him an invoice.
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Jun 20, 2016 22:07
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I stick to the barter system, and only for people I know not to be total schmucks. I always feel accepting money makes it an actual professional service and thus comes with a responsibility to continue providing service and/or a warranty on it. I don't know if its because I have issues asking people for money or what. Giving me baked goods or alcohol in exchange for me rescuing your pictures and resume from a hosed-up shitbox seems like a better deal in the long-run.
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Jun 20, 2016 22:43
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I do free tech support for my parents, since they put me through college. I just wish that Microsoft would stop making it so loving hard to do so. Speaking of: Does anyone know if the older versions of Office will still work with Windows 10, or do they force you into the dumb subscription plan version?
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Jun 20, 2016 22:49
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How old is old? 2010 works great.
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Jun 20, 2016 22:54
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Kurieg posted:Speaking of: Does anyone know if the older versions of Office will still work with Windows 10, or do they force you into the dumb subscription plan version? You can run all the way back to Office 95 if you really want to. I personally use Office 2010. You can also totally just buy regular Office 2016 if you want instead of the subscription version.
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Jun 20, 2016 22:55
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2010 home and student. She was thinking about upgrading since Microsoft is pulling support for the Windows7 mail app and it's compatibility with hotmail. But was worried because most of her home business stuff is locked in office files.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:09
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Kurieg posted:I do free tech support for my parents, since they put me through college. I just wish that Microsoft would stop making it so loving hard to do so. You can still just buy a license instead of subscribing.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:24
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odiv posted:I I need like the file equivalent of Lorem Ipsum in MS Office/PDF formats, inoffensive and nonsense. ill send you some of my call notes Kurieg posted:2010 home and student. She was thinking about upgrading since Microsoft is pulling support for the Windows7 mail app and it's compatibility with hotmail. But was worried because most of her home business stuff is locked in office files. Why isn't she using outlook if she has office? Does home and student not come with it?
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Jun 20, 2016 23:30
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A Pinball Wizard posted:ill send you some of my call notes
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Jun 20, 2016 23:36
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I always put effort into fixing my home main gaming machine because if it's working then I get to work at home one day a week. They can pry my home day from my cold, dead fingers. It is the greatest thing in the world.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:38
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I did freelance work once while unemployed. It was for my aunt. I was expecting to get $50-75, she paid me $300. She's also basically the nicest person in the world. I tried helping my grandmother when I was 15-16, I think her internet was out. I couldn't do anything because I didn't have any passwords, IIRC. After we got home, she called several times asking what I had done. Presumably something had changed. I had to tell my mother every time she called that I hadn't done anything, because I couldn't do anything, because I didn't have the passwords. That's what I generally expect things to be like when helping people. E: that reminds me, I need to make a note to fill out a 1099-MISC or whatever that form is called.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:54
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I may be a dirty developer, but holy poo poo do I need to say how absurdly nice the Delphix software my place just put in place recently is. It is a database virtualization software, that lets you make virtual copies of a database. I have to do a lot of datafixes for third party software we support, and the fact that with that software I can just revert my personal database copy to any point in time prior in just like 3 minutes to test a datafix is so great. Plus I can keep my personal copy of the database up to date easier with simple 3 minute refreshes instead of having to wait an hour for a full restore.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:57
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When I was a teen I used to have to help my grandma out with her computer; fair enough, I used to get a free dinner out of it and some ice cream. The problem was that she would also tell her friends I would help them out, and it would almost always be me on some old rear end machine downloading windows updates on dialup for 4 hours and getting like $10 at the end of it. I eventually had to start dodging my grandma, because I was too much of a chickenshit to just tell her outright I hated helping her friends, and eventually she got the message that I didn't love her anymore.
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Jun 21, 2016 01:03
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22 Eargesplitten posted:E: that reminds me, I need to make a note to fill out a 1099-MISC or whatever that form is called. Eh, you did a favor for your aunt, she gave you a gift. It's $300, not $30,000. e: Unless she wants to expense it, I guess.
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Jun 21, 2016 01:08
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iajanus posted:I always put effort into fixing my home main gaming machine because if it's working then I get to work at home one day a week. I work 3 days a week from home and it is indeed amazing friend.  
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Jun 21, 2016 01:37
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Kurieg posted:I do free tech support for my parents, since they put me through college. I just wish that Microsoft would stop making it so loving hard to do so. About 6 years ago I switched my mother to a linux box. She uses the computer for two things. 1) Reading email 2) Facebook. One of her weaknesses is happily clicking attachments from activity #1. She now tells are her friends that she's a 'lunux' user.
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Jun 21, 2016 04:39
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Eh, you did a favor for your aunt, she gave you a gift. It's $300, not $30,000. I reported it on my unemployment insurance paperwork. Probably not going to change how much I owe, anyway.
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Jun 21, 2016 05:32
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ratbert90 posted:I work 3 days a week from home and it is indeed amazing friend. I haven't worked in the office for 2.5 years and I will never give this up I don't care if I'm a CJ
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Jun 21, 2016 05:35
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LethalGeek posted:I haven't worked in the office for 2.5 years and I will never give this up I don't care if I'm a CJ One of the senior developers on my team did a great job of sabotaging everyone else's ability to work from home by working from home a majority of the time for the past 3 months with no real work done to show for it. Although my boss did say that I did a great job getting stuff done the week I worked from home due to illness.
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Jun 21, 2016 05:43
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I never really do stuff for friends, hell if I can avoid it not even parents. At least my dad is computer literate and therefore buffers most of my mom's problems. Only one who can call me anytime is a neighboring lady, she gives me € 10+ for the most benign poo poo so I don't mind it. Although, I have helped junior techs with their home problems before as long as it's as easy as connecting via Teamviewer and opening some ports on ther router. Obviously only if we were hanging out on TS anyway.
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Jun 21, 2016 07:46
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RFC2324 posted:Thats what I mean. Most people, no matter what they do for a living, don't want to do it at home. Thank you. I thought I was weird for not working on my computer stuff at home. Every time i got home. I just didn't feel like working on it.
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Jun 21, 2016 08:05
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Now I'm concerned because I *do* enjoy doing this poo poo at home. Am, am I a boring person? 
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Jun 21, 2016 08:22
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Red Square Bear posted:Now I'm concerned because I *do* enjoy doing this poo poo at home. I'd say it depends on what you do besides working on your computer?
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Jun 21, 2016 08:23
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SEKCobra posted:I'd say it depends on what you do besides working on your computer? My wife and I have a two year old. There is no time besides "Work" "Sleep" "Play with two year old" and "dick with computer after two year old is asleep because gently caress getting him back to bed"...
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Jun 21, 2016 08:35
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Fixing poo poo at home is the worst, because you come home after a hard days work and just want to browse facebook or read forums and other boring things. But oh no the home router and powerline adapters aren't working, no fun tonight! (My HTPC has the occasional bugbear of sound straight up not working coincidentally most times when we want to watch a movie with guests over, toslink reciever/speakers on Ubuntu is just weird)
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Jun 21, 2016 13:05
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My cabling at home is a poo poo show (but it works), and my gaming rig was bought pre-assembled. I just can't be arsed to do that poo poo myself any more.
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Jun 21, 2016 13:26
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Conversely, when I get around to setting up my home servers, I'll be spinning up an instance of OSticket or something so I can keep track of all the poo poo the wifey wants me to do. I've already got a honey-do list as long as my dick, so it'll be nice to reply to any request with "did you put in a ticket" 
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Jun 21, 2016 13:53
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Conversely, when I get around to setting up my home servers, I'll be spinning up an instance of OSticket or something so I can keep track of all the poo poo the wifey wants me to do. You should probably finish that single item on your list then!
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Jun 21, 2016 14:02
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Conversely, when I get around to setting up my home servers, I'll be spinning up an instance of OSticket or something so I can keep track of all the poo poo the wifey wants me to do. Get your family doing scrum lol
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Jun 21, 2016 14:23
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ratbert90 posted:You should probably finish that single item on your list then! Measures in pixels.
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Measures in pixels. This. KoRMaK posted:You might find trello to be less of a hassle to setup. Unfortunately most of the house projects are waterfall (huge loving Gantt chart), so nothing is ever gonna get done until we have some money to throw at it. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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DigitalMocking posted:About 6 years ago I switched my mother to a linux box. She is the exact use case for a Chromebook.
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