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that was a joke, but i figure that any time nen gets permanently imbued into an object it is emission.
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Shizuku's vacuum is a physical vacuum, it's just a weird one with fancy abilities because Nen. It's a conjured item, though. I think it might not even be a "creature", just a voice-activated vacuum with a weird appearance. Kite's weapons were likewise physical objects he created, he just gave it a personality. That he hated. Because... Kite's weird, I guess. Maybe his condition to make his power even stronger was having a power he couldn't stand at all. (This is mostly a joke, before anyone takes it seriously.)
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According to legend, it's conjuration Roland Jones posted:Kite's weapons were likewise physical objects he created, he just gave it a personality. That he hated. Because... Kite's weird, I guess. Maybe his condition to make his power even stronger was having a power he couldn't stand at all. (This is mostly a joke, before anyone takes it seriously.)
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well that's weird, but i guess conjured items are as likely to remain after death as any other kind of nen.
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It seems to me like a mix, the pot is a real physical object and therefor conjuration, but the beasts are purely nen, and invisible to regular people and therefor emission.
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Jun 19, 2016 03:27
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i was originally talking about the stuff gon and killua were buying from street auctions, though. that those otherwise powerless objects had some aura was probably due to emission. a conjured item from a long dead conjurer that other people can use is some heavy poo poo, though.
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Serious Frolicking posted:I was gonna say that real spiders are in for life, but then I remembered Kalluto. He certainly doesn't think that he is gonna be a member for the rest of his life, though that may be the case if Hisoka kills him. I always had the impression Kalluto was kind of... leased by her family to the spiders because they needed to find a nen remover.
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Turin Turambar posted:I always had the impression Kalluto was kind of... leased by her family to the spiders because they needed to find a nen remover. Despite what his appearance, Kalluto is a boy. We don't really know how or why he hooked up with the spiders. When this came up before, someone pointed out that his mom is from Meteor City.
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Jun 19, 2016 11:33
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LolitaSama posted:Unless Im mistaken, Kurapika's nen only works on spiders. What if the spiders left the clan or removed their tattoos? You are mistaken, only the restraint power (obliges zetsu condition) and judgement chain are spiders exclusive. He can use dousing chain on anyone, and he can use the chain to attack and defend normally.
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Jun 19, 2016 11:39
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With his dowsing chain alone, Kurapika is a talented rookie hunter. That isn't really something to look down on, but it isn't really an exalted status either. So while Kurapika is quite good at using his dowsing chain as a weapon, it is just a conjured chain with no special properties when used as such. That he can still fight with it testifies more to his martial prowess than his nen ability. Any conjurer can make mundane weapons, after all. As far as his healing chain goes, that is only really usable when he uses emperor time and Kurapika is generally reluctant to use that publicly. I guess all this just reflects that his focus isn't really on fighting anyone but spiders. Unlike Killua and Gon he isn't a combat specialist. Even his anti-spider chains are oddly gentle considering their intended purpose.
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Jun 19, 2016 12:03
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Ah, worm toxin. This first emperor must be none other than Leto II Atreides.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:11
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Serious Frolicking posted:i was originally talking about the stuff gon and killua were buying from street auctions, though. that those otherwise powerless objects had some aura was probably due to emission. I think that imbuing an object with nen, like with Shu is a basic enhancer ability if anything, though there's obv some emmission going on since the residual aura hasn't faded.
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That baby is probably going to be a complete murdering rear end in a top hat. That's how babies would rock when they have nen beasts.
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Jun 19, 2016 23:16
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I hope Wobble's nen beast is Vin Diesel from hit film 'The Pacifier' or he kills all the other princes like the baddies in 'Baby's Day Out'
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Please support the official release because otherwise you won't have a loving clue what's going on. 
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Man that does make so much more sense. I was kind of lost on those panels.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Man that does make so much more sense. I was kind of lost on those panels. MS's translation made sense to me, but lol at it being entirely different than the official translation.
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Most of MS's translations make sense but when read as a whole it can be very hard to get what a chapter is conveying particularly subtleties and you often end up thinking "I'm pretty sure this might be what's happening here"
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Serious Frolicking posted:With his dowsing chain alone, Kurapika is a talented rookie hunter. That isn't really something to look down on, but it isn't really an exalted status either. So while Kurapika is quite good at using his dowsing chain as a weapon, it is just a conjured chain with no special properties when used as such. That he can still fight with it testifies more to his martial prowess than his nen ability. Any conjurer can make mundane weapons, after all. As far as his healing chain goes, that is only really usable when he uses emperor time and Kurapika is generally reluctant to use that publicly. Chrollo came up with the bookmark way after he first made his Nen, right? So why couldn't Kurapika add new functions or create a secondary ability? On that note (assuming we ever get enough chapters to see him back in the story) I hope Gon comes up with something more interesting than big punch, invisible sword, and laser beam. It's cool, I guess, but really pales in comparison to the coolness of other character's abilities. I guess sometimes you just need a giant punch, tho. 
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Kurapika could get an exorcist to remove the chain from his heart if push came to shove.
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He did but we don't know what extra conditions or restrictions Chrollo's ability now has, they're probably fairly significant considering how good the bookmark is. As for Gon's ability seeing how powerful Old Gon's Rock is I don't think his abilities pale compared to others. They're simple abilities but that doesn't mean the way he uses them are simple.
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Gon having simple abilities works well in terms of making sure the fights don't end up exploiting the same few niche uses of them.
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Jun 21, 2016 01:43
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Pure destructive force is always useful. Plus, as an enhancer Gon can be quite effective without using his hatsu, so for someone that is too fast to hit with jajanken he can still use it as a threat. Knuckle already lectured Gon about all this stuff.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Pure destructive force is always useful. Plus, as an enhancer Gon can be quite effective without using his hatsu, so for someone that is too fast to hit with jajanken he can still use it as a threat. Knuckle already lectured Gon about all this stuff. That's exactly what I was going to post. Considering what we've seen of his growth there won't be many people who can tank a punch from him when he only has to land one. Also if paper and scissors scale up to even 50% or whatever the Enhancer breakdown is he has a great variety of abilities.
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Though of course, if Gon isn't present for the ship or dark continent then he is functionally out of the story for good. No more nen for him, and I'm not sure if they would let him keep his license either.
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What is the current consensus on this? It's hard to believe he'd be gone for good but the only thing stopping Alluka feeling like a total cop out is that he still has no nen. If things had ended after his revival it could work but to have the series still be far from done it'd be strange to write him out and any restoration of nen won't feel right.
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Hunter bylaws say that licenses can't be revoked.
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He would definitely come back if the manga went on long enough. The manga will not go on long enough.
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I 100% believe that Gon is going to be on the ship, somehow. Kurapika will run into him after escaping from a nen beast or something.
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Gon ain't done he is gonna finish off the zombie murder clown.
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Gon was introduced as being good with animals maybe he'll make friends with a horrible dark continent beast or something.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Gon ain't done he is gonna finish off the zombie murder clown. they're friends now. Hisoka wouldn't hurt a powerless little kid
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I said it before and I'll say it again: Ging is now the new main character of this series. The series always was about a boy looking for his daddy. Gon found his, so his arc is done. Now Ging has to find his daddy.
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the problem with "punches things" in a series like this is that it's boring, something more like bungee gum is a way better example of a simple power.
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The complexity in Gon's fights was always based on getting a chance to land that punch. Aside from a few scrub ants no one was willing to just stand there and take the hit because Gon never fought idiots.
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EmmyOk posted:That's exactly what I was going to post. Considering what we've seen of his growth there won't be many people who can tank a punch from him when he only has to land one. Also if paper and scissors scale up to even 50% or whatever the Enhancer breakdown is he has a great variety of abilities. It's closer to 80%.
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Serious Frolicking posted:The complexity in Gon's fights was always based on getting a chance to land that punch. Aside from a few scrub ants no one was willing to just stand there and take the hit because Gon never fought idiots. That's exactly it. Togashi writes smart enemies and it's pretty telling that a nothing fight that Gon has with the Bat and Owl, two opponents that are much weaker than him, is really interesting and fun to read because of how Gon's abilities work and how the enemies react intelligently to any new complications. I also like how, except maybe on Greed Island where they can't avoid it because of the card rules and in his training with Knuckles, the fighters always go for the throat. No dancing around, no dodging bullshit, they just aim to win as fast as possible. That's why I love that sequence of action where Chrollo faces the Zoldycks, they immediately push him up against a wall and never let up on the pressure. Asuron fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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Tunicate posted:Please support the official release because otherwise you won't have a loving clue what's going on. MS seriously needs an editor. "Then the rumors even made it to people accusing other people of having the tickets in question" Just reading that aloud sounds wrong.
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Brought To You By posted:MS seriously needs an editor. Yeah, MS reads verbose and confusing as gently caress side-by-side.
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