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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I find it really interesting that Steiner not only gets Knight skills, but also Dark Knight skills. The appearance of Dark Knight skills represents Steiner's suddenly wavering patriotism and faith in Queen Brahne's actions. Hey! I did it! I got us to the next page! 
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That cage fight is an excellent example of the complexity of the battle system. If you go in willy-nilly and straight up attack, you'll probably get creamed unless you leveled up. But put on 2 pieces of equipment, or hell even just one of them, and it's cake. The battles are won in the equipment setup
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Toot toot Tot
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RareAcumen posted:The appearance of Dark Knight skills represents Steiner's suddenly wavering patriotism and faith in Queen Brahne's actions. But he has Minus Strike when you first get him?
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Not once have I forgotten that bushy 'stache, that big ol' nose, and the glasses perched on top of said nose. No, I'd say I haven't forgotten Doctor Tot. I should go back and play this one of these days.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:But he has Minus Strike when you first get him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9WYPOq_QA
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 CHAPTER EIGHT: "NO, NOT ALL OF TRENO!" Which swas target of where they were and it was nice place and my friend lives there.  Disc 1 ended with Gitan's knuckleheads abusing Limit Glove. We start disc 2 with Kukri and Tinhank, significantly less powerful knuckleheads.  At least Gitan & friends getting naked means Kukri inexplicably has the gear. I can't wait for when I don't have to micromanage this Magician Robe. In Disc 3.  Nothing of note happens at the station. Let's go to the next boss battle.  Annoyingly, Marcus joins the boss battle before we get a chance to equip him.  Huh. Well then. That was first try.  Tinhank got frozen! This prevents him from moving (bad) and makes physical attacks an instant kill (same as normal)!  This looks like a bad situation, but...  The Black Waltz is confused by his newfound desire to kill everything and his need to capture the princess. He hits himself in his confusion.  This is about the only chance I'll ever have to have Dagger attack with a racket. It looks like this.  Eventually BW #3 cracks himself to death.  Tinhank doesn't need AP much and Marcus can't learn abilities, so it's no big deal they miss this 5.  Now I get the chance to decorate Marcus's remains.  VEGA is the last chance to buy an absurd number of items for synthesis. I think I get none of them.  By the way, running is a gigantic pain in the rear end without Flee.  I couldn't satisfy the friendly Mu the first time to Dali, but Chocobo Hot & Cold has provided me with enough ores.  You know, considering how maintained and staffed the rest of this path is, it seems strange there's a tiny bridge with a big hole in it.  And a fat wad of cash. I don't mind.  I don't have to have to run from everything.  Marcus can gain levels just fine. He does share data with a later character, but unlike Blank he doesn't transfer his experience. But I'm not going to do that because it's still gaining levels. If Gitan has even one friend who learns lessons he might get the wrong idea.  Friendly ghost. Did you know ores heal HP equal to your ores times fours?  Kukri needs Auto-Potion mastered at some point. It isn't some ridiculous challenge to do so, but I'd rather knock it out sooner rather than later.  It's not like Quan's going to use this, and it'll somehow end up in Papito's possession if he needs it.  Kneeling in front of the steam is rejuvinating for body and mind! (Yes I get Scorpio)  I'm just gonna borrow mega64's tindeck link here.  Great track. Good enough to get posted every update that involves Treno.  Stellazio get!  Mega64 was kinda hard on the Power Belt. Ah, the indescretion of people with levels. This thing is invaluable at level 1 and will see use any time we're not abusing auto-9999 attacks. Which is pretty frequently.  Equipment! Bone Wrists have an earth-elemental boost I'll never get to use. Handy(?)!  A lot of why I used the cotton robe trick is for this.  I have enough to spare to get this, entirely so I can turn it into more cash.  Yoink! This is one of those things that's not strictly necessary but it makes things significantly more feasible.  I find it weird Treno has two of them at once, but maybe it's because it's also the place where you turn them in.  I got a net 2200 gil off of this. Every bit helps!  The rest of the stellazio rewards are handy, but this is the good one. For about two or three fights. Poor blood sword, it's technically fantastic but it is so poorly positioned in the story.  I try to get Tinhank through the griffon, but Reflect doesn't work on its magic and even halved it's too much damge for him to survive. Alack. Alay.  Anyway, let's meet up with Toot and come back to this later. REGISTER OF RESETS: One to Tidal Flame Garnet for the hell of it; Unknown number lost to plant spiders spawn numbers; died to Flans without Flee; Untimely crit pushed Sealion to fatally Blizzara; less work to suicide on optional Type A fight than to win or reset; incredible number of resets for phoenix down RNG; and then again; Marcus gained levels; Snared by the Mandragoras leaving Quan's Dwelling.
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Not grinding up Marcus, huh? That'll make things interesting later on.
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  Before we meet up with Tot, let's take a break from the plot to, uh...guess we'll find out soon enough!   That means the Tantalus theater troupe is also a group of bandits... I wonder if they're always stealing wherever they perform? They use it as a beacon for the cargo ship.Can't be simply to revisit Morrid.  There we go.   The ice is melting inside. It might come crashing down. This is how Dagger runs, in case I didn't show it off before.  We get the gate opening scene every time we enter the city. It's a nice touch.   This guy will raise his price if we decline his first offer, bumping up to 15,000 gil. I do just that.  We get 8000 gil for this thing.  Thanks! I've been looking all over for it!It's a monster's heart, what are you going to do with it, eat it or something? It's not like Final Fantasy is known for needing components to cast spells or anything.   This is big...  Whenever I see the moon, glowing an ominous red as if destruction were seconds away from raining upon this wretched planet, I remember Doctor Tot.  This is your home?  I finally found one here in Treno.  Ah, Master Steiner! You are escorting the princess? Yes, sir! I deeply regret my earlier actions. Still a straight arrow, aren't you? I'm sure you had your reasons, but I won't ask why.   At last, our journey to get this Supersoft thingy is complete.  It's quite alright, Master Steiner...Now we briefly have control of our party again, giving us an opportunity to look at this thing...  There's too many layers to this Doctor Tot meme. I think it has peaked now that the game itself is self-aware about it. Anyway, let's talk to Tot to continue the plot.   I remember your lessons. You remember the ramblings of an old fool...----- SILENCE  One is 'jewel.' The other is 'summoner tribe.' The archeologist Frederick Ash theorized that 'jewel' refers to the pendant passed down to the ruler of Alexandria. Other research suggests a relationship between 'eidolons' and magical 'stones'...All this is...kinda relevant I guess?      Were you reading big books again? But I think better when I'm surrounded by old books. Really? I don't like books. You are a person of dignity. It is imperative that you study hard. What was it called? It was... Oh yes, that's the one! So there is a book I like after all. My, my... That is a globe of Gaia. It's a model of our planet. Ha ha ha... We live on the surface, Princess.   That is why... It's okay. Oh, your room is much too small to point out on this globe... What about the castle? -----  Time passes quickly. But I haven't changed. I continue to collect and research these items. Where did you find this globe? It's an antique. It's broken, as you can see, but I use it as an observation deck. It sure is...  Please tell me if there's anything I can do. -----   How? I had an old transportation device remodeled in the case of such an emergency. Ah! We can finally return to Alexandria! What!? Why!? I can reach Blank more easily from Alexandria. Yes, come with us, Marcus. Grrr...  Before we follow Tot, let's check out an easy-to-miss ATE. It's so easy-to-miss that I missed it and had to go back and catch it after the thread told me about it.       How many times have I missed it? It's morning now... It's so delicious... I just can't stop! That sound... That's a car coming back from Alexandria. I'm gonna wait right here this time!   I wasn't wasting time. I was eating South Gate Bundt Cake...   I knew somethin' was up, 'cause Marcus wouldn't give me a straight answer. F-Forgive me! I didn't mean to slack off. ME!? P-Please, not that... Please...     I'd say that was worth going back for. -----  Please take the ladder inside the hole down when you're ready.This area is a micro-dungeon. Three very small rooms that we're spending very little time in.   Welcome to Gargan Roo, home of the most ridiculous and awesome music.  Why was this thing built under a tower? Actually, Gargan Roo was in use long before even the invention of airships! The tower was built on top of the disused tunnel. But it looks fairly new. I convinced Mr. Bishop to keep this place intact. I haven't used it since it was remodeled, mind you. Let's see... Where was the sequence trigger? So, all we have to do is find the sequence trigger. Princess, let us find it!First thing's first, we have a moogle to deliver a letter to.    Hmm. I also know that Nazna is in love with Grimo...No letter to deliver here, so this particular branch is done for now.  First, let's head left.  Remember that Chain Plate we stole from Beatrix? Of our current team only Zidane can use it, and there's no opportunity to equip him between Beatrix and here, which means stealing it from her is pointless. Oh well!  Anyway, let's pull this level because only good things happen when you pull levers in video games.  Nothing happens yet, but we've saved a step we'd need to do later.  Also, there are battles here as mentioned.  Crawlers aren't too bad. They can hurt a bit but they also die pretty easily.  The worst thing about them is how disgusting their attacks can be.  Next, the right path.  Dragonflies are the other type of enemy here. They can use Buzz to berserk and can cast Fira. Apparently Quina can eat this for a Blue Magic spell but hell if I know whether Quina will ever have the opportunity to do so, or if they even know the spell already.  What do you mean? Gargan Roo Treno station is shaped like a circle. When you pull on that level, gargant circles around the station continuously. I don't understand what you're saying... Better to show than tell. Princess, will you pull on that lever over there?   Meet the gargant. Our transportation to Alexandria will be a giant ceiling-clinging bug. Of course it is!  Next, we must halt the gargant.  It's over here. All the while, the gargant will continuously circle the area because it has nothing better to do. It's been unused as transportation for who knows how long.   That lever drops some what-must-surely-be-spoiled-and-rotten food for the gargant to munch on, giving us a window of time to board it.  Are you sure it won't keep going around in circles? It won't. I will reverse the connection sequence and let the gargant out of the station. Of course! The princess is bright, but she is still young and naive. I am concerned about her safety. Please make your own decision on the matter at hand and protect her.  You may endanger the princess if you keep telling yourself that. ...I shall take note of your counsel.Once again, Steiner being asked to actually think for his own self for once in his life. We'll see if it ever sinks in his thick skull.   And off we go!     -----  We can reach Alexandria now... You can't even see Treno anymore. I wonder how long it's going to take?   FADE TO SILENCE It's hesitating.   ...Welp.  Hey, guess what time it is?    This is Ralvurahva. It was named by an rear end in a top hat.    It attacks by making out with characters, inflicting Poison on them.  The common steal is the Bone Wrist, an accessory that boosts earth attacks and teaches Add Status. Eh.   This battle is a nice time to cast Panacea, at least until the damage starts adding up enough that Cure ends up being more important.  The other steal this snake has is the Mythril Fork. It's the next weapon tier up for Quina and like the other forks so far also teaches High Tide.  Otherwise, Rarvarharvar will stick your characters with Slow.   It can also use the Blue Mage spell Night, though apparently I had Dagger set to be immune to it.  All that said, it can do a bit of damage and can be pretty annoying (notice how my entire team is slowed in this screenshot) but otherwise it's not all bad and we can plow through its HP pretty quickly.  And of course it runs away like a coward rather than give us some rewards. ----- SILENCE  Anyway, after that it's an uneventful trip to Alexandria, at least as uneventful as riding a giant insect can be.  I think the gargant is tired, too.It just dragged three people including a guy covered in rusty armor across a pretty long distance for the first time in decades, if not centuries. I don't really blame it.  Where are we?   Well, it must be! How do we get out? Hmm... Well... Princess, let us make haste. I know this place! Doctor Tot told me about this place. Doctor Tot also said... Princess! We can hear your stories later! The stale air cannot be good for us! And we gotta save Blank! Right. We need to hurry.  I didn't do anything! Don't blame me. You really didn't do anything!? You don't believe me!? Nice going, you guys.     Oh joy. Zorn! Thorn! Let us out at once! Too bad, it is. Zorn! Thorn! I've returned to Alexandria to speak with my mother.  Yes, we will take you to see Queen Brahne, whether you like it or not.  And with that, we conclude this week's adventures of Captain Dagger and the Mystery of the Forgotten Tot. Tune in next time as we resume our regularly scheduled program of The Amazing Monkey-Boy and Friends (and the giant glob that eats monsters). And also I'll have to actually start playing the game again so I guess I better hope I remember how to play! Mega64 fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Mega64 posted:Can't be simply to revisit Morris. Oh sure, you remember Dr. Tot but you forget Morrid. And a hidden cutscene  As excellent as this game's soundtrack is, the Gargan Roo music is really grating. Even in this short three-room area, but especially elsewhere.
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Jun 21, 2016 01:57
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Doctor Tot's little side kick as he pulls down the winch is great too.
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Dagger's run annoys me. Who runs like that?
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If you replace "John Bigboote" with "Adelbert Steiner", these are my feelings about him him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTLKfI8VToI
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If you're wondering, Dragonflies reappear on Cleyra's Trunk, so Quina can Eat them then.
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Two things: 1. As Squarely Circle pointed out, you missed a hidden ATE. You trigger it by entering Dr. Tot's Tower (or maybe it was the Gargant passage?) and then heading back out of the tower completely. This one was particularly notorious for anyone that had the player's guide, because it was one of those "Go to PlayOnline to find out how to trigger this ATE!" bits that the guide was so infamous for... except the code they gave for finding the details didn't loving work; you just got an error message. It wasn't until many years later that I found out online (at GameFAQs) how to find it. Bang-up job on that freaking site, Square!  2. Zorn and Thorn do a really good job at making you hate their stupid faces. They really carry on the superior act against anyone they see as a rebel and lording their position of authority over them, with a pretty-much permanent demeanor of smugness. I want to punch them every time they appear onscreen.
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I found that ATE completely by accident. You don't need to go down into the tunnel, I think you just need to wait until you regain control after the flashback. I guess it's not even really that obtuse since Dr. Tot tells you to go stock up on stuff before heading into the passage, but it definitely took me a few playthroughs before I stumbled on it. Speak for yourself, Zorn and Thorn are great.
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I'm fine with them because Jesters of the Moon is one of my favourite tracks.
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Dr. Tot reminds me of Bugenhagen, now that I think of it.Bufuman posted:I want to punch them every time they appear onscreen. This is a standard reaction to clowns, I think.
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Squarely Circle posted:I found that ATE completely by accident. You don't need to go down into the tunnel, I think you just need to wait until you regain control after the flashback. I guess it's not even really that obtuse since Dr. Tot tells you to go stock up on stuff before heading into the passage, but it definitely took me a few playthroughs before I stumbled on it. Yeah, it's not exactly hidden, but anyone who plays like me (Step 1: Head to the shops the instant you hit a new town because you're a gear munchkin, Step 2: Explore the current town as fully as possible and get all the optional poo poo done, Step 3: Plot!) will probably never find it on their own. I certainly didn't, I had to be told how to find it. Seriously, my standard reaction to being told that the next dungeon has monsters and that I should stock up on items and gear is "Buddy, I took care of that like an hour ago."
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Squarely Circle posted:Oh sure, you remember Dr. Tot but you forget Morrid. And a hidden cutscene Fixed, thanks! This is why I save in separate files and keep all my saves handy. I'll try to go back and show it off in the next couple days.
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A bit late but man did I miss Treno's theme. That piece is incredible.
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[Plavski, I'm very sorry but a stupid thing happened and your post was a casualty. I think it's Awful App's fault. Edit is not quote. -fedule] Somebody fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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Explanation of the post above: I meant to quote it. Hit edit instead (#modproblems). No problem; realised instantly, backed out and hit quote instead. Wrote post. Unfortunately, Awful App has a bug with cached but unsubmitted posts where they get confused with each other, and with edits. So my post got submitted as an edit instead, and now that post is a reply by someone else to a thing that was never said. Forums.
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Lol. Anyway, my post was basically saying that while Treno is nice music, 2 hours of it solidly looping while you're 100%'ing the place drove me slowly mad. I have had nightmares where it has been the backing soundtrack. (Don't worry thread, I'm backing up this post in case anything else happens to it.)
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I'll concede to that. It's still one of my favorite Final Fantasy pieces.
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It took me til Curtain Call to really appreciate Dark City Treno and then I didn't know why I didn't love it before. Similarly, it took the London Symphony Orchestra version of Vivi's Theme to make me love it.
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ApplesandOranges posted:It took me til Curtain Call to really appreciate Dark City Treno and then I didn't know why I didn't love it before. That whole concerto was amazing.
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Here's the ATE I missed from the last update. I will go ahead and edit this into the actual update shortly, but it's here so you don't have to reread the update to catch it. ----- Before we follow Tot, let's check out an easy-to-miss ATE. It's so easy-to-miss that I missed it and had to go back and catch it after the thread told me about it. How many times have I missed it? It's morning now... It's so delicious... I just can't stop! That sound... That's a car coming back from Alexandria. I'm gonna wait right here this time! I wasn't wasting time. I was eating South Gate Bundt Cake... I knew somethin' was up, 'cause Marcus wouldn't give me a straight answer. F-Forgive me! I didn't mean to slack off. ME!? P-Please, not that... Please...I'd say that was worth going back for.
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Now I'm hungry for bundt cake.
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Why couldn't he just eat the cake at the waiting station bench
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Because it's just SO GOOD he has to eat it RIGHT THERE, I mean, the ambience of the waiting room is part of the experience of eating South Gate Bundt Cake it just wouldn't be the same without it NO DON'T SUPER TORNADO TANTALUS PUNCH ME TOO~
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EponymousMrYar posted:Because it's just SO GOOD he has to eat it RIGHT THERE, I mean, the ambience of the waiting room is part of the experience of eating South Gate Bundt Cake it just wouldn't be the same without it NO DON'T SUPER TORNADO TANTALUS PUNCH ME TOO~ This is the correct answer.
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RIP Cinna. I liked him.
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I can't believe Cinna is loving dead. I also can't believe I'm seeing new stuff after how many years?
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If we could have Baku in our party we could just destroy everything from here to disc 4. None of this unwinnable boss bullshit, Baku doesn't give a drat that you once killed a hundred knights single-handedly. SUPER TORNADO TANTALUS PUNCH, LOSER
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I love how right before they get caught in a trap, Dagger's trying to warn Steiner and Marcus there might be traps and they're both like, "Less talking, more walking!" Idiots; you'd think at least Marcus would have known better. Oh well, at least Dr. Jot's still safe.
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December Octopodes posted:I can't believe Cinna is loving dead. I can't wait to see how many people 'discover' the Nero Family side quest in Disc 4 for the first time.
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Oh man am I dreading that one.
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