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Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX
If Trump really is mostly self funding his campaign, which seems to be true given the huge loan from himself, why would the campaign have tons of cash on hand? To me the whole cash on hand thing seems off target. The abysmal fundraising and internal strife is much funnier.

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SuperDucky
May 13, 2007

by exmarx
I am v. much gladly that I stopped by this thread before I went to bed because holy loving lol Draper Sterling.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.
If Trump was a democratic plant he'd be working on associating himself and the down ticket more and also trying to make sure he survived the convention. His complete lack of poo poo about either of those things indicates that he's either lazy or stupid.

That said though, maybe he kinda wants to get murdered at the convention - then he won't be the guy that loses.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Zo posted:

If Trump really is mostly self funding his campaign, which seems to be true given the huge loan from himself, why would the campaign have tons of cash on hand? To me the whole cash on hand thing seems off target. The abysmal fundraising and internal strife is much funnier.

he's loaning himself money to buy his own things and using campaign contributions to pay it off.

anyone donating now is seriously dumb as hell.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Zo posted:

If Trump really is mostly self funding his campaign, which seems to be true given the huge loan from himself, why would the campaign have tons of cash on hand? To me the whole cash on hand thing seems off target. The abysmal fundraising and internal strife is much funnier.

Well, it's loving terrifying to donors to find out that if you donate to Trump's campaign the money is going to either:

A. the 20% of expenditures directly embezzled by Donald Trump

or

B. To pay off Donald Trump's loan to himself.

It's not so much that he has this little cash, it's that these figures will scare the poo poo out of anyone wanting to write a big check to the Trump campaign.

thethreeman
May 10, 2008
Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/MattMackowiak/status/745112064482390016

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

shiksa posted:

he's loaning himself money to buy his own things and using campaign contributions to pay it off.

anyone donating now is seriously dumb as hell.

Yeah, he's running it like he ran his Atlantic City casinos. Come in, pile up the debt to spend on stuff that benefits him personally, and then get other people to pick up the tab.

It's hilarious. The only surprising part is that he was only able to flow 20% of his expenditures through his own business ventures. He should start an Amway store to buy stuff from. He could get that number up to 80% no sweat.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

The twist: the investigation will be done by Trump Auditing.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Patter Song posted:

Well, it's loving terrifying to donors to find out that if you donate to Trump's campaign the money is going to either:

A. the 20% of expenditures directly embezzled by Donald Trump

or

B. To pay off Donald Trump's loan to himself.

It's not so much that he has this little cash, it's that these figures will scare the poo poo out of anyone wanting to write a big check to the Trump campaign.

But hasn't that been true the whole time? Since Trump is self funding, any dollar you give is a dollar he doesn't spend. Whether it goes directly to the campaign or to Trump who then spends it on the campaign, same outcome. I mean it's not like his campaign is suspended, in which all donations WOULD just be for paying loans(ie Trump). While the campaign is live I'm not sure how these disclosures change anything.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Patter Song posted:

The twist: the investigation will be done by Trump Auditing.

With chief investigator Laurie Q. Andowski.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Corey "The Fall Guy" Lewandowski

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zo posted:

But hasn't that been true the whole time? Since Trump is self funding, any dollar you give is a dollar he doesn't spend. Whether it goes directly to the campaign or to Trump who then spends it on the campaign, same outcome. I mean it's not like his campaign is suspended, in which all donations WOULD just be for paying loans(ie Trump). While the campaign is live I'm not sure how these disclosures change anything.

Considering the fortunes of a lot of wealthy people depend on what the Republicans do it really pisses said wealthy people off when the GOP candidate is literally pissing away his campaign

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Zo posted:

If Trump really is mostly self funding his campaign, which seems to be true given the huge loan from himself, why would the campaign have tons of cash on hand? To me the whole cash on hand thing seems off target. The abysmal fundraising and internal strife is much funnier.

If he had no expectation of paying himself back he could wipe the loan of the books I'm pretty sure

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

SuperDucky posted:

I am v. much gladly that I stopped by this thread before I went to bed because holy loving lol Draper Sterling.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
How do you justify giving money to a "billionaire"'s campaign that's writing checks to hotels owned by the candidate?

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

Squizzle posted:

Are there two streets in Baton Rouge called Florida Boulevard? When I try to Google Street View the location of Uncle Bob's Storage, I follow Florida Blvd until it turns into Florida Street, and onward to the 400 block. But the highest address numbers on the 400 block appear to be 451 on one side, and 460 on the other. Is there another place I should be looking?

I'm mostly curious about how large the storage units look at Uncle Bob's, in order to fuel speculation about what could be in Trump's.

e: Uncle Bob's is listed on the FEC filing at: 475 Florida Blvd., Baton Rouge, LA 70806

4756 Florida Blvd. I know this is going to surprise you but the Trump Organization hosed up a filing.

http://www.unclebobs.com/Baton-Rouge-LA-storage/storage-unit-prices-UB290.cfm

Google Maps shows it to be a normal non-descript storage unit.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/4...6!4d-91.1419707

Almost certainly it's to hold crap from a rally, Trump held one in Baton Rogue in February.

(or possibly it's Vince Foster's long form birth certificate)

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Venom Snake posted:

Considering the fortunes of a lot of wealthy people depend on what the Republicans do it really pisses said wealthy people off when the GOP candidate is literally pissing away his campaign

This, plus it's also dragging down the RNC's own fundraising as a really nasty knock-on effect.

And you just know that Trump's going to waste a ridiculous sum of money that the campaign doesn't really have on the Convention.

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Jan 11, 2004

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

How do you justify giving money to a "billionaire"'s campaign that's writing checks to hotels owned by the candidate?

hats

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

lamentable dustman posted:

If he had no expectation of paying himself back he could wipe the loan of the books I'm pretty sure

Exactly, so the campaign being "broke" is mostly a smoke screen. Same with cash on hand - Trump will just loan more when needed. In reality, aside from fundraising, the campaign finances are completely irrelevant and it's just Trump dumping tens of millions of his own money into this dump fire which is way funnier to me.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Patter Song posted:

This, plus it's also dragging down the RNC's own fundraising as a really nasty knock-on effect.

And you just know that Trump's going to waste a ridiculous sum of money that the campaign doesn't really have on the Convention.

Doubt it. The RNC will, however, especially with multiple sponsors pulling their sponsorships.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

lindsay graham can do a lot more for you than trump, it makes far more sense to throw money at him than at the dril tweet of campaigns

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

Zo posted:

Exactly, so the campaign being "broke" is mostly a smoke screen. Same with cash on hand - Trump will just loan more when needed. In reality, aside from fundraising, the campaign finances are completely irrelevant and it's just Trump dumping tens of millions of his own money into this dump fire which is way funnier to me.

People are questioning Trump's actual wealth because he's self funding. If he has a million or ten on hand to fund the campaign, why does he have no staff or ad spending, and why is he sending out emergency fundraising emails? That's why campaign cash on hand matters, because it looks like Trump is unwilling or unable to fund it himself at the levels needed.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Zo posted:

Exactly, so the campaign being "broke" is mostly a smoke screen. Same with cash on hand - Drumpf will just loan more when needed. In reality, aside from fundraising, the campaign finances are completely irrelevant and it's just Drumpf dumping tens of millions of his own money into this dump fire which is way funnier to me.

The campaign not having access to money isn't really what people are freaking out about. It's mostly that Drumpf's FEC filings don't look like the filings of a presumptive nominee a month before the convention.

Donors also know they have to throw $42 million into the campaign to reimburse Trump before they can start seeing any return on their money.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

yeah campaigns aren't supposed to be perfect throughput machines, the fact that 50 members of congress and many lower-level elected officials

https://twitter.com/PeteJamison/status/745116794558394374

have more in the bank than him indicates that he's doing a significantly bad job at his job

this is only part of the equation, though - yesterday's fun graphs showing how little he's spending are another big part of it. he's supposed to be stocking up money while also reserving large ad buys - he doesn't have the storage, the inflow or the outflow in this mass balance equation

edit: hillary:hoover dam::trump:st francis dam

Prof. Lurker
Mar 10, 2015

I've got the fire of human liberty!

I'm setting fires everywhere!

And humans are turning on everywhere!
For fucks sake Trump - hold until the convention!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Patter Song posted:

You are right, although a surprisingly modest salary.

Isn't he paying himself $5000 per day? How does that compare to Clinton or Romney or Obama?

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

sullat posted:

Isn't he paying himself $5000 per day? How does that compare to Clinton or Romney or Obama?

It's $10k per month or something.

ErIog fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jun 21, 2016

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Oh man I hope my audit firm wins this engagement so I can hear stories through the rumor mill.

Who am I kidding, Trump & Trump, llp is going to get the bid

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Corey "The Fall Guy" Lewandowski

wh-... who gave all this money to mar-a-lago? and all these trump steaks? corey!! you can't just use campaign money to make donald richer!

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Good Citizen posted:

Oh man I hope my audit firm wins this engagement so I can hear stories through the rumor mill.

Who am I kidding, Trump & Trump, llp is going to get the bid

I've got it on good authority that he's already got a lot of little short guys with yarmulkes lined up to take care of it for him

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Corey "The Fall Guy" Lewandowski

He was probably fired because only 20% of the money spent flowed through Trump ventures.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Oh good lord.

I actually think you're onto something here. I mean, there are multiple sources on the record stating he never intended to do better than 2nd.

Funny as it would be, if it were I'd think he'd have been fundraising like gently caress. Even if everything that seems like transparent money laundering really is, he's been pretty halfassed on the scale.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
trump 2016 is the doobies dog house of presidential campaigns

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Venom Snake posted:

trump 2016 is the doobies dog house of presidential campaigns

But doobie was able to successfully solicit donations from morons?

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

https://twitter.com/MaxTemkin/status/745087681915346952

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
(strings)

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Good Citizen posted:

But doobie was able to successfully solicit donations from morons?

Good point, it's more like the Grover House of presidential campaigns.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




It has all of the integrity, forethought, and applied expertise of a Groverhaus campaign, though.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/745123458284027904

STONE ZONE ON THE INFOWARS

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Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

RZApublican posted:

Good point, it's more like the Grover House of presidential campaigns.

Even Grover eventually built his wall...

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