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Is dave eggars any good? I read that heartbreaking work.... like 9000 years ago but wondering if he actually managed to turn out any thing decent since then? I totally forgot about him until i read an article he wrote about trump for the guardian 😪
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I really dislike Eggers and I'm trying to remember why because I haven't read any of his books
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I really dislike Eggers and I'm trying to remember why because I haven't read any of his books Is it the time he wrote a novel about the tech industry and purposefully didn't research it? His charities that help expose inner city kids to writing? The many terrible pieces published by McSweeney's?
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Cloks posted:Is it the time he wrote a novel about the tech industry and purposefully didn't research it? His charities that help expose inner city kids to writing? The many terrible pieces published by McSweeney's?
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Jun 20, 2016 14:26
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:all of those. I hate black children and love whatever McSweeney's is he founded McSweeny's. Trap sprung. looks like you're caught in a lie.
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Jun 20, 2016 14:34
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eggers is not terribly special. i don't find him unreadable like some people, but i'm not thrilled by anything he does either. actually enjoyed his dialogue-only book And the Prophets, Do They Live Forever? more than his other stuff
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Jun 20, 2016 14:37
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A Hologram for the King had a really pretty cover and it was ok if not a little trite
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Jun 20, 2016 15:06
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david crosby posted:he founded McSweeny's. Trap sprung. looks like you're caught in a lie.
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Jun 20, 2016 15:41
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you know who else sucks? Jonathan franzen
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Jun 20, 2016 15:43
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corn in the fridge posted:you know who else sucks? Jonathan franzen wrong
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blue squares posted:wrong his latest book is bad
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corn in the fridge posted:his latest book is bad no its not
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blue squares posted:no its not what makes it good cuz im pretty sure it's bad
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Jun 20, 2016 20:46
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corn in the fridge posted:what makes it good cuz im pretty sure it's bad The opening chapter is good. There is enough subterfuge and murder and other excitement to make reading it a fun experience. Andreas Wolf is a fascinating character. It's not perfect and Franzen thinks he knows more than he does about young people, but it's a solid book. Nowhere close to as good as Freedom or Corrections. My favorite is Freedom. What does interest me about Franzen is that the younger his characters are, the more unrealistic and parodic their life situations. The son in Freedom. Pip and her roommates. His older characters are the most fully human, whereas his younger ones are always defined by strange characterterisitcs and find themselves in highly strange businesses/situations blue squares fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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blue squares posted:The opening chapter is good. There is enough subterfuge and murder and other excitement to make reading it a fun experience. Andreas Wolf is a fascinating character. It's not perfect and Franzen thinks he knows more than he does about young people, but it's a solid book. Nowhere close to as good as Freedom or Corrections. My favorite is Freedom. It started off okay, but i found the book horribly muddled, like on one hand he's trying to make this point by drawing comparisons between socialism and social media or whatever which i don't feel was very well fleshed out or overshadowed by wolf's character, on the other he's telling this slow reveal story about the breakdown of puritys parents relationship which he NEVER loving FINISHES. Where was anabelles chapter? Every character gets a voice except for anabelle. That really made me mad Franzen can't write women. The main character in freedom was like a cardboard cutout she was so lifeless. Same with Purity and he completely gave up on Anabelle cuz he knew he wasnt up to the task
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blue squares posted:wrong Truth hurts.
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corn in the fridge posted:Is dave eggars any good? I read that heartbreaking work.... like 9000 years ago but wondering if he actually managed to turn out any thing decent since then? I totally forgot about him until i read an article he wrote about trump for the guardian 😪 He's godawful, although that should have been pretty obvious if he's writing articles about Donald Trump for the guardian.
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What is the What was pretty good.
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Any thoughts on the works of Sarah Kane? Just read through her collected works, and 4.48 Psychosis has to be the one of the most depressing things I've ever read.
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The Erland posted:Any thoughts on the works of Sarah Kane? Just read through her collected works, and 4.48 Psychosis has to be the one of the most depressing things I've ever read. I don't think Crave or 4.48 stand up today as plays. I saw a few productions of them and they are pretty joyless experiences especially if you compare them to shorter Beckett. It could've been the production though, I'm not sure. There are a couple gems in Crave's script at least when the one characters talks about having one of her mother's memories while she was in the womb. Her early work is a great resurgence of Angry Young (Wo)Men plays. Blasted and Cleansed I think have a totally distinct style and voice. Phaedra's Love is silly. Also she is really out of fashion which is a shame because I've never seen Blasted or Cleansed live.
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Daveid Eggers about infinite jest posted:Or the work of Sufjan Stevens, who is on a mission to create an album about each state in the union. He’s currently on State No. 2, but if he reaches his goal, it will approach what Wallace did with the book in your hands.
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lol I forgot about that quote
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oh that was why I hate him, his introduction to IJ I didn't like it either to be fair
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I'd picked up The Association of Small Bombs from the library here recently. So far it seems pretty good. I was wondering if anyone else here had read it?
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The Erland posted:Any thoughts on the works of Sarah Kane? Just read through her collected works, and 4.48 Psychosis has to be the one of the most depressing things I've ever read. Personally, I love Kane. I've only seen Cleansed live (it was a pretty bad production) but I've read most of her plays. Blasted is pure genius from start to finish. I think a big problem with her plays is because, as was par for the course of In-Yer-Face Theatre, the plays have a lot of spectacle and memorable visual horrors, directors tend to ignore the really brilliant brutal poetry in the dialogue and the ludicrously strong thematic and character work that is constantly under the surface of her plays. Directors end up playing the big moments and so all those little moments just get lost in the shuffle.
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On Dave Eggers—some people got together to start an entire literary magazine because they despise Dave Eggers and keep returning to mock him. I love McSweeney's, but they've got a point about The Believer's style of book reviews and Eggers's large personal following among immature morons. Eggers's genial anti-elitism, which I find charming in his ordinary nonfiction writing, morphs in the hands of many, many lesser writers into a cloying, syrupy literary criticism that I can't stand.
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Actually I think you'll find the most weighted criticism is the fact that his name is 'eggers.' say that a few times. Egg. Egger. Eggor. Eggar. Eggman.
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condolences to this, the tbb lit thread, for losing the battle to be crowned "worst lit thread on the something awful forums" by quite a large margin http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3780578
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Tree Goat posted:condolences to this, the tbb lit thread, for losing the battle to be crowned "worst lit thread on the something awful forums" by quite a large margin I'm still reading Vineland.
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I've only ever read A Heart Breaking Work of Staggering Genius and the only memory I have of it is that I really wanted to sympathise with Eggers over what happened to him and his family, but I still thought he was a massive tit and I just wanted to slap him after every few paragraphs.
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Tree Goat posted:condolences to this, the tbb lit thread, for losing the battle to be crowned "worst lit thread on the something awful forums" by quite a large margin Reading this thread is like that feel u get when you meet a new person, are struggling for things 2 talk about, and let slip that you like to read books. That is something you should def never do. Do not tell ppl in contemporary america that you like to read, because then they'll spend 20 minutes explaining the plot of the divergent young adult series for children or say other GBS things.
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Tree Goat posted:condolences to this, the tbb lit thread, for losing the battle to be crowned "worst lit thread on the something awful forums" by quite a large margin Why did you do this to me
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Bad thread.... in GBS? *monocle shoots off face with such force it goes through the wall leaving a perfect silhouette of said monocle in said wall*
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lol a monocle
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david crosby posted:Reading this thread is like that feel u get when you meet a new person, are struggling for things 2 talk about, and let slip that you like to read books. That is something you should def never do. Do not tell ppl in contemporary america that you like to read, because then they'll spend 20 minutes explaining the plot of the divergent young adult series for children or say other GBS things. hmmm yeah this is certainly very different from TBB, or indedd this thread.
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CestMoi posted:hmmm yeah this is certainly very different from TBB, or indedd this thread. There are 2 or possibly 3 ppl in this thread with dece taste, reading one of their posts is like finding an oasis in a wasteland.
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david crosby posted:There are 2 or possibly 3 ppl in this thread with dece taste, reading one of their posts is like finding an oasis in a wasteland. happy to help
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im reading a book by a goon
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when Mahatma Gandhi was asked what he thinks of American literature he said it would be a good idea
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blue squares posted:im reading a book by a goon I hope you enjoy my collected poems.
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