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This paper is extremely interesting, one of the more intriguing things I've read lately: Climatic and environmental aspects of the Mongol withdrawal from Hungary in 1242 CE http://www.nature.com/articles/srep25606 The most interesting argument it brings up, to me, (though one that comes from earlier scholarship) is that Ogedei's death was not the cause of the Tatar withdrawal of 1242. Also before you get pre-mad Charly there is no mention of bows getting wet.
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HEY GAL posted:hazzard, what--in as specific terms as possible--did they tell you That pewter was put over the sharp tip to blunt it. I'm starting to think there's been a misunderstanding somewhere because when I used one, I thought the tip was folded over. I'll post in the fencing thread next time I get more information about this, because this is off-topic and surely Danelli wouldn't do something so dangerous?
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Jun 21, 2016 19:25
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Hazzard posted:That pewter was put over the sharp tip to blunt it. I'm starting to think there's been a misunderstanding somewhere because when I used one, I thought the tip was folded over.
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Jun 21, 2016 19:58
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HEY GAL posted:the solution (on the consumer end) is to never go out to eat, never go to parties, buy used clothing, and spend all your money on early modern weapons and gear Makes me glad I specialized in battleships.
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Jun 21, 2016 20:29
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Makes me glad I specialized in battleships. counterpoint: i have a sword hung right above my bed by the baldric right now and as far as i know you don't
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Jun 21, 2016 20:40
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Nobody reads the last post on a page They don't? ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Makes me glad I specialized in battleships. Let's timeshare a battleship.
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Jun 21, 2016 20:48
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Hazzard posted:That pewter was put over the sharp tip to blunt it. I'm starting to think there's been a misunderstanding somewhere because when I used one, I thought the tip was folded over. I do not do HEMA but watch videos about swords, I thought if you rolled the tip to blunt the point you did not need to put blunting things on the end. From what i understand, the rolled tips are safer in that there is nothing the tip of the sword can punch through during a stab.
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Jun 21, 2016 20:51
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xthetenth posted:They don't? By and large no. WoodrowSkillson posted:I do not do HEMA but watch videos about swords, I thought if you rolled the tip to blunt the point you did not need to put blunting things on the end. From what i understand, the rolled tips are safer in that there is nothing the tip of the sword can punch through during a stab. The human body is extremely squishy and while this is true 99.999% of the time there's always that one idiot who gets killed.
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Jun 21, 2016 20:55
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:By and large no. Also i meant the tip punching through the blunting apparatus, like a rubber or in this case pewter lump on the end. I worded that terribly. Humans are super easy to stab so if it breaks or something you can still get hosed in an instant.
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Jun 21, 2016 20:59
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Also i meant the tip punching through the blunting apparatus, like a rubber or in this case pewter lump on the end. I worded that terribly. That did occur about 5 or 6 years ago during some Way of the Sword, this boffer combat game all the anime club nerds around the towns north of Orlando played. The game included bows and crossbows, which fired real arrows with the heads removed and the tips covered in giant marshmallow-like heads of duct tape. At one game, a poorly made head broke off on impact and the broken shaft underneath stabbed into the player's chest.
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Jun 21, 2016 21:17
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Yep. Sport fencing masks and jackets aren't just about keeping a blunt tip from hurting you, they're about keeping a broken blade from killing you.
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Jun 21, 2016 21:41
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:This paper is extremely interesting, one of the more intriguing things I've read lately: Sound the retreat!  Yes, the paper is interesting.
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Jun 21, 2016 21:44
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HEY GAL posted:counterpoint: i have a sword hung right above my bed by the baldric right now and as far as i know you don't No but I have a miniature rum barrel made from the teak decking of Admiral Jellicoe's flagship on my desk.
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Jun 22, 2016 02:12
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JaucheCharly posted:Sound the retreat!
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Jun 22, 2016 09:35
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HEY GAL posted:also for people who might not have thought about this, the more complex your hilt is the more time you will spend sanding and oiling the goddamned thing. Especially if you get rained on at any point. wouldn't they have servants for that?
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Jun 22, 2016 09:40
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Hogge Wild posted:wouldn't they have servants for that? they would. i wouldn't. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Jun 22, 2016 09:45
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HEY GAL posted:i portray a random pikeman in Gustavus II Adolphus's army, my job in life is mostly to get shat on by circumstances impress an undergrad into your service
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Jun 22, 2016 10:59
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Hogge Wild posted:impress an undergrad into your service tough decision
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Jun 22, 2016 11:01
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HEY GAL posted:the good part would be i'd get to hit them if they don't do what i want, the bad part would be i'd have to see/talk to an undergrad Why do you think your dudes were drunk all the time You should get a Spanish undergrad, that way you can sigh at them for being uptight prudes while they try to water down your wine so you might be less of a incoherent drunk
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Jun 22, 2016 11:20
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MikeCrotch posted:Why do you think your dudes were drunk all the time
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Did you call him a Hundsvott?
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JaucheCharly posted:Did you call him a Hundsvott? hunsvotti is a very mild word in today's finnish, kinda like 'little bugger' in english funny how the meanings change
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One of my fav stories from 17th century Sweden is a former soldier drinking with a goldsmith, and the soldier then wants to fight because he thinks the goldsmith is a coward. He also calls the goldsmith a hundsfot. Goldsmith ends up beating the soldier to death with a bench. That's some WWE poo poo.
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Jun 22, 2016 13:23
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Ah well, back in the days, people didn't make everything out of lovely spruce. Hardwood settles the argument.
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Jun 22, 2016 13:32
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:No but I have a miniature rum barrel made from the teak decking of Admiral Jellicoe's flagship on my desk. Is it full of rum?
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StashAugustine posted:Is it full of rum? Sadly no. It's made in the shape of a Royal Navy rum barrel, but it only really works for holding pens.
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JaucheCharly posted:Did you call him a Hundsvott? i knew i shouldn't be saying it when it was on the way out of my mouth, but enough  and there it went
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HEY GAL posted:no, but when he said that Gustavus Adolphus was protecting the freedom of the German princes I snapped "Yeah, to be Protestant!" Anyone with any investment in a Protestant/Catholic dispute is lying if they haven't got heated about it in an argument. And Wedgwood put it perfectly: "German Princes held the torch of liberty facing up to the Emperor and the sword of tyranny down to their subjects."
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Hazzard posted:Anyone with any investment in a Protestant/Catholic dispute is lying if they haven't got heated about it in an argument. anyways, sword  the baldric and the scabbard are both handmade, but by different people. the scabbard doesn't quite fit so i tied a leather shoelace around the throat and it fits now  the chape. i told the guy to make it look crude, "like a village blacksmith made it for me or something"  the width of the blade in comparison with my hands  jauchecharly wanted a pic of the entire blade like...a year ago  the whole thing. it wasn't rotated when i uploaded it. the baldric and scabbard will both age to a sort of medium-brown. everything is made of things that would have been available at the time, except the obviously machine-made sword, but hey it was 500 euros. one of the reasons I picked shagreen for the grip is i didn't want leather that was obviously tanned and dyed in the 21st century. the other reason is that the 1630s is right before shagreen is about to start super trending. the other other reason is i only like a few swordsmiths' wire grips and danelli is not one of them. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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It's gorgeous. 
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Siivola posted:It's gorgeous. the scabbard and baldric deliberately do not match the sword, if i had gotten something that was made to fit with the sword i think i would have gone with embroidered black cloth, something sleekly threatening to hang out on street corners with HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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I grew up being lied to by fantasy media that told me rapiers were only those really thin Spanish cup-hilted ones you see towards the end of the 17th century. But those 16th and early 17th century rapiers are so gorgeous. Sideswords look really stylish as well.
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HEY GAL posted:yeah, well, there are people who like breathing less than this dude likes the king of sweden (edit: or the regency after his death. also france.) really nice!
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Grenrow posted:I grew up being lied to by fantasy media that told me rapiers were only those really thin Spanish cup-hilted ones you see towards the end of the 17th century. But those 16th and early 17th century rapiers are so gorgeous. Sideswords look really stylish as well. don't go outside without one
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Is it legal to go walking around with a sword on you in the US, or do you have to strap a gun to it for safety.
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Here in Australia there's technically no law against it, but people tend to get Concerned and call the police. Causing a public disturbance with a weapon is quite serious. This tends to be relaxed every year when a bunch of vikings roam around town with fire and axes. Not even joking, we do that for midwinter - our viking reenactors are top notch on period-appropriate kit and one of the few groups not infested with neonazis or cryptofascists (we're all hippies, so most of them are more inclined to go play dnd than to beat a foreigner) so they're one of our great prides for the midwinter festival. Which is surprising, as you'd think the English ancestry of most of the town's people would mean that a bunch of armed vikings drunkenly roaming the streets with flaming torches would trigger instinctive fear.
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Loomer posted:Which is surprising, as you'd think the English ancestry of most of the town's people would mean that a bunch of armed vikings drunkenly roaming the streets with flaming torches would trigger instinctive fear. The technical definition for an Anglo-Saxon is a Viking who forgot how to raid and then got their poo poo pushed in by their country cousins.
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Kemper Boyd posted:The technical definition for an Anglo-Saxon is a Viking who forgot how to raid and then got their poo poo pushed in by their country cousins. Did Vikings and Anglo-Saxons call each other northern monkeys and southern poofs, please c/d
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while i was looking through Hans U Franck for pictures of war crimes, i found this: Check out the variety of swords here. Most of them are some sort of haudegen thing and their users obviously want to cut with them, but the dark-haired dude in the center has a rapier and he seems to be trying to go for a thrust.
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HEY GAL posted:while i was looking through Hans U Franck for pictures of war crimes, i found this: Is there somewhere on the web with them? I guess he saw them all actually happening at one time or another?
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