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kater posted:It is Joff, Cat, Jon, Sansa, Rickon, Sean Bean, Sansa, and Robb. All the dead Starks. Joff has chubby cheeks
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IncendiaC posted:IMO Arya's pre-season 5 story was actually pretty close to this. The Harrenhal arc in S2 was pretty great despite it deviating heavily from the books, and Tywin's scenes with her were fantastic even though it was show-only. The BwB in S3 were cool and the Hound was amazing throughout S3 and S4. There were also great minor characters throughout like Yoren (RIP), Syrio (RIP), and Gendry (forever rowing). THe Faceless Men were kind of a letdown after all that build up but isn't that kind of a GRRM twist, as well? At the end of the day, they're just another group of hired killers in spite of all their rituals and rules.
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tadashi posted:THe Faceless Men were kind of a letdown after all that build up but isn't that kind of a GRRM twist, as well? At the end of the day, they're just another group of hired killers in spite of all their rituals and rules. It had some good momentos on the books. Not awesome, but at least interesting The show really messed it up, though. From the bad choice of Jaqen as the leader, to the annoying Waif, the uninteresting training and lame missions, and the that awful conclusion. It was all bad. Even Bravoos itself has no personality, nothing in it that makes it any different from any generic city in Westeros
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Jedimastafez posted:She is also Academy Award Nominated - ironically the first pic I could find from her role she is holding a stick like a spear I know her from the Almighty Johnsons, which is not a very good show, but is entertaining.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Ah yes the Master Tactician Jon *runs at 4000 men alone* Yes, but Sansa had no reason to think Jon would do that, and it doesn't make sense that he would do that given what we know about Jon's character. His decision to rush the Bolton army, like Sansa's decision to not to tell him about the Vale army, was made for dramatic effect, not because it works within the world the books or the show has already established. And that's why people are criticizing the show; while the characters and the political situation used to drive the story, now it seems like the writers decide what kind of scenes they want and manipulate the characters accordingly. Even that wouldn't be so bad if the payoff was really great, but the "unexpected ally army shows up at the last second" trope has already been used at least twice already and it was so heavily telegraphed that it completely robbed the battle scenes of tension.
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Jedimastafez posted:She is also Academy Award Nominated - ironically the first pic I could find from her role she is holding a stick like a spear Okay, so that's Obara. Who do we have next? Nyma? Nymo? Nym? Not gonna work here anymore, that's for sure!
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Jun 22, 2016 15:22
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I hope the finale involves Dany getting to Dorne and burning the Snakes all alive
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Jun 22, 2016 15:28
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This was posted in the other thread. No, not that thread, the other thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0dA9eUP85s
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Arya spent 3 seasons training only to disobey the FM and then return to Westeros, to do what? Kill Walder Frey, a guy so old hes probably going to die anyways. Her story was awful the moment she got on the ship for Braavos.
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Jun 22, 2016 17:13
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Also walder is a joke and despite taking some castles isn't going to get a great house. Hell, Ramsay stabbing roose was a more important assassination than anyone arya could kill
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Jun 22, 2016 17:27
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Season 4 was really only half good, but I was rewatching it and the Tyrion/Tywin scene at the end (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ) really was perfect. They tried a similar thing with Sansa and Ramsay in this last episode and it didn't work at all. Bad guy trying to talk his way out of certain death can work if the characters have important history, and especially if the "bad guy" is someone you really don't want gone. I didn't really feel any catharsis at Ramsay's death since he should have died a long time ago or at least been kept off screen.splifyphus posted:I'm sorry, criticism? I think you'll find that this is the greatest show ever made, and pointing out flaws makes you a joyless nit-picking autistic robot who ruins everything for all the cool people who know the correct way to watch TV.
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Jun 22, 2016 17:33
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Tommen will fall to his death from a high window. Smash cut to the window, showing Arya who then winks at the camera.
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Soul Glo posted:Tommen will fall to his death from a high window. Smash cut to the window, showing Arya who then winks at the camera. Then she pulls off her face and its actually Jaqen
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Jun 22, 2016 18:05
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Elias_Maluco posted:Then she pulls off her face and its actually Jaqen They pull a mask off of Tommen. "Is there anyone here who isn't a Faceless Man?"
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Jun 22, 2016 18:07
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Elias_Maluco posted:Then she pulls off her face and its actually Jaqen Next episode he pulls off HIS face and it's Syrio. Each new episode, a new face.
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Jun 22, 2016 18:08
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Be better if the window pulls of its face and it's Arya!
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Jun 22, 2016 18:17
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Turns out Ramsey this ep was a fake, end of the finale will be Euron arriving in Meereen, killing Tyrion, and pulling off his face to reveal the real Ramsey
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Jun 22, 2016 18:19
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MrSlam posted:They pull a mask off of Tommen. "Is there anyone here who isn't a Faceless Man?" Pycelle tentatively raises his hand, is promptly stabbed to death by nearest person.
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Goofballs posted:To be fair distances really are a massive corner the GRRM wrote himself into. I'm not sure saying lol gently caress it they arrive is the right way out but they had to do something. if Yara got fair winds she could probably do 100 nautical miles in a day and 200 nautical miles with good winds. Looking at a map and guessing it is over 2000 nautical miles from the Iron Islands to Meereen, Yara could have sailed there less than a month. Vague time passing is vague. Anyone else get a Catelyn vibe from Sansa? More anger than to know what to do with. Even if Jon Snow isn't Rob Stark blood son, he sure was raised to like him. Need someone to mention that Sansa needs to produce an heir for the Stark name to continue and suggest Jon as a match. Though I think that LF is going to just force Sansa into marrying Sweet Robin, Sansa winning over Robin, and LF "flying" out of the Moon Door to be the 1st half season finale. edt. Ancient armies marched about 20 to 40 km a day about 10 to 20 miles. So if say Jaime had to march the Lannister forces 500 miles to the Riverlands that would take him one or two months. Yara steals the fleet in episode 4 and Jaime leaves King's Landing in episode 5. Then by episode 7 Jaime is in the Riverlands and I believe Yara is going to gently caress the tits off of some girl. The amount of time for distance traveled seems fine. Not telling the audience that specifically and everyone left believe each scene takes place chronologically one after another is a problem. No Luck Needed fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Lmao, I just watched episode 9 of season 1 and it's absolutely awesome, despite completely skipping the two gigantic battles going on (Tyrion gets knocked out before the battle and wakes up after). It's a travesty how much they ran this show into the ground. It looked and felt perfect back then.
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No Luck Needed posted:Even if Jon Snow isn't Rob Stark blood son If he is then Rob got started awful young
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Jun 22, 2016 18:24
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I remember years ago posting about how I had no doubt that the showrunners would be able to improve upon the later books and unwritten stuff, based on a few of the scenes that they created that weren't in the books. I did not predict The Checklist
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That said, when I actually watch the spoiled episodes aren't nearly as bad as my imagination conceived them to have been. Lowered Expectations I guess.
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waitwhatno posted:Lmao, I just watched episode 9 of season 1 and it's absolutely awesome, despite completely skipping the two gigantic battles going on (Tyrion gets knocked out before the battle and wakes up after). Yeah, they used to skip the big battles and concentrate on the character development, politics and scheming. And it was so much better
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Elias_Maluco posted:Yeah, they used to skip the big battles and concentrate on the character development, politics and scheming. And it was so much better And people faulted Lord of the Rings for doing exactly this. I did think the Battle for Winterfell was pretty grimly real, though. That loving shot of the arrows being loosed, soaring across the field, and landing was ripped straight from the LotR films, though. I'd like to see a shot-by-shot breakdown of all the nods/references, I noticed some Braveheart in there as well. And maybe one of JJ Abrams' tricks in the Meereen combat!
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:And people faulted Lord of the Rings for doing exactly this. It was cool. for the most part. But Ill trade spetacular battles for good writing any day
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Azazell0 posted:Thanks to whoever linked the Dem Thrones : real negus youtube channel back when the season started. I like it a lot, even though I usually am not interested in these TV review shows. The guys are just fun to listen and they are positive and into the show, but not in an annoying way. That may have been me and I'm glad you liked it! You may like the written episode recaps on BlackNerdProblems. They are routinely entertaining and honestly I enjoy it even more than Dem Thrones.
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ramsay's death woulda been a lot better without the plot armor and if he was a retarded monster like in the books. also if the big "saves the day" moment was all the northern houses turning against him. i still don't buy the umbers joining up cuz of wildlings and they really shoulda done some twist with them being the ones to betray him.
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Yeah and there was a lot of weird under-text of the instability of Ramsay's army (Jon says their loyalty is hanging on by a thread), and the "incredulous to be eaten by his starved dogs" was a pretty clear metaphor with zero basis in what we actually see.
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Right up until this episode, I was expecting Wyman to show up at Winterfell in the beginning and turn his coat during the battle. I figured there was a reason why they repeatedly said "Manderly" this season.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah and there was a lot of weird under-text of the instability of Ramsay's army (Jon says their loyalty is hanging on by a thread), and the "incredulous to be eaten by his starved dogs" was a pretty clear metaphor with zero basis in what we actually see. Yea, Jon even says that to Ramsay when he turns down the combat 'I wonder how your men will fight your you when they hear you wouldn't fight for them'. And it turns out the answer is 'to the death', I guess?
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Ashcans posted:Yea, Jon even says that to Ramsay when he turns down the combat 'I wonder how your men will fight your you when they hear you wouldn't fight for them'. And it turns out the answer is 'to the death', I guess?
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Lycus posted:Right up until this episode, I was expecting Wyman to show up at Winterfell in the beginning and turn his coat during the battle. I figured there was a reason why they repeatedly said "Manderly" this season. Yeah they really turned them into Chekov's mandely's. The whole the north remembers, the Umbers insulting Ramsay and not really swearing loyalty, and the name drop of Manderly, let absolutely nowhere.
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Manderly will show up next season and it will be Lannister pies instead of Frey. Just so Arya can cross some one off her list.
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meristem posted:Soundtrack! That's an excellent piece, but I don't think we've heard it yet 
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Lycus posted:Right up until this episode, I was expecting Wyman to show up at Winterfell in the beginning and turn his coat during the battle. I figured there was a reason why they repeatedly said "Manderly" this season. There was a reason. It was because gently caress you.
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Rumors are that Manderly will magically turn up next episode to say "whoops my bad with the whole Bolton thing" and swear fealty to Jon Snow or Jon Stark or whatever.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah and there was a lot of weird under-text of the instability of Ramsay's army (Jon says their loyalty is hanging on by a thread), and the "incredulous to be eaten by his starved dogs" was a pretty clear metaphor with zero basis in what we actually see. I agree 100%. This was my main complaint (about an otherwise fantastic episode) that I made in an earlier post. Hopefully it's written better in the books and we actually get a " The North Remembers" plot leading somewhere besides a flayed washerwoman, the Karstarks, Glovers, and Umbers remaining loyal to Ramsay Bolton until the end, and the Manderlys not even showing up to the battle to help. Ashcans posted:Yea, Jon even says that to Ramsay when he turns down the combat 'I wonder how your men will fight your you when they hear you wouldn't fight for them'. And it turns out the answer is 'to the death', I guess? Lol, exactly. The Bolton soldiers don't care that Ramsay is too much of a pussy to do a mano y mano fight with Jon Snow to decide the conflict and prevent the slaughter of thousands in battle. The Bolton troops fired round after round of arrows into the fray without qualms, killing Jon Snow's men and their own troops indiscriminately. There never appears to be any wavering loyalty among the Bolton forces. The only hint of insubordination is a 5 second scene where a Bolton soldier tells Ramsay "our army is gone." It seems like bad writing to me; there's heavy foreshadowing of a betrayal that never materializes.
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