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Who What Now posted:The tabletop RPG from Fantasy Flight Games also has an easter egg that references a pretty famous 40k fan fic. Mostly it's things outside of GW that are better. because gw is a garbage company and i welcome any chance to talk about how poo poo they are
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Is this the thread where I can denounce fascists and fascists by other names?
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Jun 23, 2016 04:36
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Lady Naga posted:What Warhammer videogame wasn't self-serious garbage? The fantasy games that have came out recently are P good on tone. The Vermintide characters all make some jokes and I had a grudge for 2 gold in Total War. Although I've always thought Fantasy was the better product. It was able to be positive in a way that 40k never could. Of course, GW destroyed it.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:37
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Darth Walrus posted:You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. 40K is, at its heart, a celebration of sci-fi villains, from space fascists through hungry, hungry bug-monsters to barbarian hordes with starships. The Necrons are the ancient, unknowable Lovecraftian horrors of the setting, impossibly old and impossibly advanced and utterly inscrutable. They're for if you like your sci-fi evil cold, weird, and uncaring, with a proper sense of grandeur, more ominous than in-your-face hideous like the Tyranids and Chaos. Except they're absolute poo poo at being that, and GW has mishandled them utterly for their entire existence.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:52
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Is this the thread where I can denounce fascists and fascists by other names? Yes,  . Interrupting derails with content usually works better than complaining about them.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:53
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Is this the thread where I can denounce fascists and fascists by other names? Ostensibly
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Grondoth posted:The fantasy games that have came out recently are P good on tone. The Vermintide characters all make some jokes and I had a grudge for 2 gold in Total War. 40k comes close with the Commissar Cain books, which are my favorite Bad Sci-Fi books. Cain isn't brave and stalwart in the face of horrors beyond the stars, he's pant-shittingly scared. It also pokes fun at a lot of the more absurd parts of the universe, like the bureaucracy refusing to admit it makes mistakes, so entire airfields of orbital dropships go unused because someone forgot to file the inventory report.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:54
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Woolie Wool posted:Yes, A situation where unowned fertile age women are mingling with masculine men is socially intolerable. The woman have to be owned, or the men emasculated, and since keeping women under control is today deemed intolerable, the men are emasculated, and we are now seeing that it is costly to emasculate police, and the Brits have repeatedly demonstrated that it is very costly indeed to emasculate soldiers. Fertile age women should not be allowed to mingle with men except that they are firmly controlled by some male who is present, in authority over them, and responsible for their good behavior, and the number of women he is responsible for is small enough that he actually can control them. In practice, the alternative is always emasculating the men.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:A situation where unowned fertile age women are mingling with masculine men is socially intolerable. The woman have to be owned, or the men emasculated, and since keeping women under control is today deemed intolerable, the men are emasculated, and we are now seeing that it is costly to emasculate police, and the Brits have repeatedly demonstrated that it is very costly indeed to emasculate soldiers. You do God's work.
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Jun 23, 2016 05:14
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Literally The Worst posted:I work in a comic shop
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pookel posted:I hung out briefly at the small local Pride event this weekend with my gay alt-right-adjacent friend. He seemed to have a hard time handling the atmosphere of cheesy folk music, "virtue signalling," "SWPL" and "dildo politics." He was going to wear his Make America Great Again hat, but couldn't find it. Seriously now, when people get squicked out at other people, they should ask themselves what it is about themselves that's causing them to react that way. Stop trying to get the world to conform to you. BrutalistMcDonalds has a new favorite as of 05:59 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:If Davis Aurini is any indication, fascists are now moving from Warhammer 40k to Fallout. The Fallout fandom already has a segment that goes on and on and on about Genetic Purity and even though they have a built-in excuse wrt the radiation mutants in the setting it's still weird and I can see why the NRx folks approve
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Are bronies to blame for the Fallout/NRx connection? Some kind of /pol/ crossover with the Fallout Equestria fandom?
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Woolie Wool posted:Dear lord, I am having flashbacks to "vs. debates" on Spacebattles. What a goddamn black hole of stupidity, and 14 years ago I was in it. Phil talks about the 'Gun vs Frock' debates in Doctor Who fandom, which I think is the same thing. I saw a great quote on Facebook like "Nerds are people who can't measure up to traditional gender roles so they double down on performing whiteness'. Hence buying so much poo poo. I saw 'virtue signaling' in a left-wing article to describe people who support an anti-domestic violence organization that doesn't really do anything but 'raise awareness' (but it's in a right-wing mag): http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/why-you-should-never-give-a-cent-to-white-ribbon/news-story/036feed14ddf8ef60691e7ba22494e77 Count Chocula has a new favorite as of 09:30 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Woolie Wool posted:I always preferred the "get killed by barbarians and lose in a few rounds" tactic in those games. I tried the "be the barbarians" (Mongols specifically) strategy in the original Civilization once (cavalry units only, no settlers, despotism forever) and sure enough you'll win, but it's so loving boring (and you may want to build a catapult unit once in a while to take on fortified cities). Plus it breaks the game a little in that if you don't do any research, the other civilizations won't either, and they won't expand much, making it even more boring. No-content games that are all about game mechanics really aren't my thing
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Are bronies to blame for the Fallout/NRx connection? Some kind of /pol/ crossover with the Fallout Equestria fandom? I'd say that Fallout has gone the way that NRx wants media to go. As the series has progressed from 2 it has become less thoughtful, less complicated, less ambiguous, less challenging, more violent, and more about 'killing bad guys' and 'getting stronger' than about 'fixing things' or 'taking risks.' The obvious choice of action is usually the right one, the guys who seem like good guys probably are, the guys who seem like bad guys definitely are, and you know with utter certainty whether a given action was 'right' or not because the game will outright loving tell you with a little boost to a stat that tracks your absolute no-questions moral standing in the entire loving universe. Rather than the old games that would throw in moral monkey wrenches like "Oh yeah, you helped the definitely bad selfish gangster rear end in a top hat in the starting town, so he gets really loving wealthy and pours that money back into the community which becomes stronger and more stable as a result." Or "You literally cannot convince this guy to abandon his quest on moral grounds because his morality is not your morality and he doesn't give a single gently caress, take a different tack with him because he is not going to respond to anything in this entire main branch of the dialogue tree."
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If we're going with hbomberguy's basically correct opinions about this game, New Vegas is an exception to that trend. What does the neoreaction manosphere white-nationalist-on-paper crowd think of it?
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GunnerJ posted:If we're going with hbomberguy's basically correct opinions about this game, New Vegas is an exception to that trend. What does the neoreaction manosphere white-nationalist-on-paper crowd think of it? They love the psycho roman cosplayer fascists and totally agree with them about how the democratic folks or people who want independence are 'decadent' and 'weak'.
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That ^. Legion fanboys were the canaries-in-the-coal mine of the modern alt-right, in retrospect. Surprisingly the libertarian petty tyrant guy and the robot who will immediately become a petty tyrant are fairly unpopular. They want full bore dictatorship. Ronwayne has a new favorite as of 14:14 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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GunnerJ posted:If we're going with hbomberguy's basically correct opinions about this game, New Vegas is an exception to that trend. What does the neoreaction manosphere white-nationalist-on-paper crowd think of it? I'm pretty sure Caesar is meant to be a rose-tinted version of how neoreactionaries would handle the post-apocalypse- try to rebuild their own ideal society based on patriarchial fascism, inspire idiots to join their cause with believable lies, and construct a stable if horrible civilisation that can spread through what they have surpluses of (people and violence). His weaknesses are that he denies his own failures and refuses to learn from them, he's dismissive of learning outside of the spheres he deems immediately profitable, and he demands loyalty that he is unwilling to give back. Of course, Caesar has actually read the books he's based this philosophy on, he respects the strength of a woman in power, and he's a luddite, so that's three major steps away from the DE morons.
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New Vegas is a good game and absolutely doesn't present the Legion as anything good. Arcade's opinion of Caesar is basically on point: "He's some rear end in a top hat who used to watch too many gladiator holovids because he grew up in a relatively safe, nice place, and now he's decided this insane regressive poo poo is the way forward because it makes him feel important." Sound familiar?
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Night10194 posted:New Vegas is a good game and absolutely doesn't present the Legion as anything good. Arcade's opinion of Caesar is basically on point: "He's some rear end in a top hat who used to watch too many gladiator holovids because he grew up in a relatively safe, nice place, and now he's decided this insane regressive poo poo is the way forward because it makes him feel important." I didn't mean to say that Caesar is morally good with that "rose-tinted" comment, I just mean he's way more successful (for plot setup reasons) than he probably would have been if he wasn't gonna be the story's big villain. Somfin has a new favorite as of 14:21 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Caesar is a good example of how to do a bad guy well imo because he has a well-thought-out rationale for his actions with a coherent ideal and you can understand it even though you find it abhorrent. So, actually kinda different from DE/NRx.
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Somfin posted:I'd say that Fallout has gone the way that NRx wants media to go. As the series has progressed from 2 it has become less thoughtful, less complicated, less ambiguous, less challenging, more violent, and more about 'killing bad guys' and 'getting stronger' than about 'fixing things' or 'taking risks.' The obvious choice of action is usually the right one, the guys who seem like good guys probably are, the guys who seem like bad guys definitely are, and you know with utter certainty whether a given action was 'right' or not because the game will outright loving tell you with a little boost to a stat that tracks your absolute no-questions moral standing in the entire loving universe. Topcal: I think you will find that most NRx Fallout fans are huge No Mutants Allowed gorgnards who refuse to accept any Fallout after 1 even happened. I tried visiting that forum a while back to see how it was doing with it's one game it continually discusses and it's a huge reactionary cesspit.
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Lady Naga posted:Oh fair enough, I never played the campaigns in DoW. The only singleplayer 40k experience I had was Space Marine and uhhhhhhh Space Marine was hilarious. "Serve the machine god - volunteer for a corpse removal squad today!"
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Jesus christ I want to dump his books.  Won't somebody please think of the white dads
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Somfin posted:I didn't mean to say that Caesar is morally good with that "rose-tinted" comment, I just mean he's way more successful (for plot setup reasons) than he probably would have been if he wasn't gonna be the story's big villain. I wasn't implying you did, we just wrote our posts at exactly the same time so mine looked like a response.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Jesus christ I want to dump his books.
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divabot posted:I note his inexplicable failure to hink the thing he's actually responding to. Aw, this makes me miss Pandagon. I don't terribly enjoy Amanda's abrasiveness but she can be so loving on point quote:He is utterly unwilling to accept that what happened was he overcame a personal problem and instead imagines that he defeated a cabal of man-hating feminists that exist only in his mind. Jesus, yes. It's not a persuasive article at all (see above re. abrasiveness) but it's not just preaching to the choir. I forgot how good she was
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pookel posted:Who is that dude and why is he so afraid of Amanda Marcotte? He's the turd who wrote this http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2091#comment-326664 and she wrote a blog post about how dumb and entitled it was. I guess he felt terrorized by being corrected by someone smarter.
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Jack Gladney posted:He's the turd who wrote this http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2091#comment-326664 The other Scott who's terrified of feminists stealing his lunch money also got in on the action http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/
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In summary, people named Scott A. are misogynist assholes (unless I'm remembering the Dilbert guy's stances wrong). ETA: Read it and now my blood is boiling. Really, he thinks it's hard to be an awkward nerd who's rejected by everyone he's ever liked? Try being a girl in the same boat, adding on the humiliation that girls aren't supposed to make the first move to the initial rejection.
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pookel posted:In summary, people named Scott A. are misogynist assholes (unless I'm remembering the Dilbert guy's stances wrong). http://mradilbert.tumblr.com/
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Oh good it hasn't been taken down yet, I know Scott hates things that are funnier than dilbert and will DMCA the gently caress out of them usually (like drillbert)
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Wow. It's like all three Scott As are actually the same person:
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pookel posted:ETA: Read it and now my blood is boiling. Really, he thinks it's hard to be an awkward nerd who's rejected by everyone he's ever liked? Try being a girl in the same boat, adding on the humiliation that girls aren't supposed to make the first move to the initial rejection. 
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pookel posted:Wow. It's like all three Scott As are actually the same person: You know... Scott Adams HAS been known to use sockpuppets... and both his blog and Aaronson's are on Alexander's blogroll...
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