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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Why are those cruisers not being submerged by the sheer weight of bombs delivered by land-based aircraft? They're not that far out.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
You mean the Hokkaido training squadrons?

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
WE WANNA SEE THE YAMATO IN ACTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!
Is it too late to claim CA Portland as my lucky ship? I might actually remember that one.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

steinrokkan posted:

You mean the Hokkaido training squadrons?

There's no training like live fire.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Grey does realize that Batavia was the capital of the DEI, right? Soerabaya was just a large city with a major naval base.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Surabaya is more strategically important, though.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

markus_cz posted:

So is this the Dwarf Fortress of war games?

Nah, the DF dev can and will admit problems in the simulation and work to fix them ("I think I made the carp too hardcore"). I don't really see these devs do it.

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
Either those cruiser and destroyer captains are horribly lost or they have huge balls. Either way that was highly entertaining to see.

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






Omobono posted:

Nah, the DF dev can and will admit problems in the simulation and work to fix them ("I think I made the carp too hardcore"). I don't really see these devs do it.
Wait, how do you make a carp "too hardcore"? Given the reputation of DF I know it's possible, but what happened in the game in this case?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

NGDBSS posted:

Wait, how do you make a carp "too hardcore"? Given the reputation of DF I know it's possible, but what happened in the game in this case?

Carp are constantly swimming. Swimming gets them EXP in swimming which makes them more hardcore and tough.

If a dwarf falls in carp infested water poo poo is going down.

Chunky Monkey
Jun 12, 2005
Kill the Gnome!

Grey Hunter posted:

the Yamato.

I think you've got this.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
They used to aggressively bite dwarves who were fishing or just collecting water, drag them into the river and drown them.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




NGDBSS posted:

Wait, how do you make a carp "too hardcore"? Given the reputation of DF I know it's possible, but what happened in the game in this case?

Besides the problem of dwarves panicking over them, falling in the water, and drowning, carp (and all fish) in 40d versions of Dwarf Fortress were overpowered for two reasons:

1. The basic bite attack was as powerful as a dwarf punch for a given amount of strength.

2. Every skill increase boosted all stats, and there was no skill cap. Fish swim constantly, and thus constantly gain Swimming skill. THis caused their strength to rise stratoscopically. More recent versions cap skill growth and restrict what stats each skill boosts.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe

Gnoman posted:

Besides the problem of dwarves panicking over them, falling in the water, and drowning, carp (and all fish) in 40d versions of Dwarf Fortress were overpowered for two reasons:
Technically speaking, fisherdwarves were attacking the fish by charging them.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Gnoman posted:

stratoscopically

Grey Hunter, do you see this? We need you to step up your game.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Doesn't japan get massive bonuses if allies land on home islands? And is where those ships are the home islands?

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

It's two cruisers and a destroyer, they're not landing on anything, unless there's also an undiscovered transport fleet behind them. They are just in an incredibly strange position. I'm actually mildly amused that the final remnant of Task Force Z is somehow here, with some US cruisers, rather than the Indian Ocean.

Anyways, given just how close they are, might as well unleash Yamato - maybe she'll actually accomplish something in this war. It's not like she'll have to sail particularly far either, so at least the fuel issues regarding sortieing her hopefully won't be quite so bad.



edit: Actually, where is Yamato currently docked in this LP? She spent most of the real war in Kure, which is actually absurdly far away from where that TF is. They're up at the very north tip of Hokkaido, and Kure near the southern tip of Honshu.

Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jun 24, 2016

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

The Dwarves were attacking them by fishing. And not technically either. I'm no evil vegetarian but I wouldn't want to die by a flesh-hook tug of war followed by brief asphyxiation and a merciful clubbing.

Let's see the Yamato do something useful.

Even in the WiF thread so far all it did was sortie and get cockslapped back to port damaged, on its first skirmish.

RA Rx fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jun 24, 2016

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Yeah, the Yamato is to far away to respond, but I'll move into the area. AI ships tend to hang around for a while.

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
BREAKING: Britain votes to leave ABDACOM, future of Malay barrier in doubt

tunapirate
Aug 15, 2015

Grumio posted:

BREAKING: Britain votes to leave ABDACOM, future of Malay barrier in doubt

I can only assume that this immediately preceded the conception of this timeline's Nigel Farage

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Morning!



I think the carriers are back at Singapore.







drat you!







We gun down more planes over Rangoon.



Akyab is now ours. Calcutta is in sight, but with the RAF in force, its going to hard to move further north.







That's a strategic base in our hands, and some nice losses inflicted on the enemy air forces.

Its been a bad month for our ships.

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
So at what point do the Brits get a doomstack in India analogous to the one the US gets if Japan invades the West Coast?

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

AceRimmer posted:

So at what point do the Brits get a doomstack in India analogous to the one the US gets if Japan invades the West Coast?

http://witp-ae.wikia.com/wiki/Emergency_Reinforcements

According to this it's Delhi.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Really, really far west, because lol, Empire in India.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

AceRimmer posted:

So at what point do the Brits get a doomstack in India analogous to the one the US gets if Japan invades the West Coast?

If you get all the way to Karachi.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Was that oiler really unescorted, or did the cruiser just manage to isolate it somehow

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Also because Britain didn't really have the capacity to free up and move that many troops back round to India. I would think that the doomstack when it does turn up is made up of some special type of light Indian infantry?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I imagine it depends when? Presumably it's the Brits forgoing the invasion of Italy, and instead shipping all of those forces East.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

goatface posted:

Also because Britain didn't really have the capacity to free up and move that many troops back round to India. I would think that the doomstack when it does turn up is made up of some special type of light Indian infantry?

It's units recalled from Africa, spawning in Aden or in Pakistan, IIRC.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

According to this, you can invade Canada without repercussions. Please take out Vancouver TIA

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.
Yeah I can see Japan landing on one of the Aleutians without triggering the Third Army but there's no way the US would take an invasion of, I don't know, anything on the mainland anywhere east or south of some point out past Anchorage without flipping the gently caress out and deploying an army to squash them. Heaven knows what the partisans would have been like, too.

(We do have some historical precedent in the Battle of Attu, but that was the furthest out and the Americans satisfied themselves with a 5:1 response...)

David Corbett fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jun 24, 2016

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
Worth noting that it's not Delhi itself but a line of hexes across India that are one hex south of Delhi. Also for Canada, invading Victoria will trigger the reinforcements, so it's not purely borders, but rather another hex line basically.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

David Corbett posted:

Yeah I can see Japan landing on one of the Aleutians without triggering the Third Army but there's no way the US would take an invasion of, I don't know, anything on the mainland anywhere east or south of some point out past Anchorage without flipping the gently caress out and deploying an army to squash them. Heaven knows what the partisans would have been like, too.

(We do have some historical precedent in the Battle of Attu, but that was the furthest out and the Americans satisfied themselves with a 5:1 response...)

And there was a frantic effort already underway to build the Alaska highway, specifically in case they needed to move serious numbers of troops into Alaska. Notably the route wasn't surveyed beforehand; at times the surveyors were only a week or so ahead of the construction crews.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Also note that if you land in Canada, even if the US doesn't spawn gobs of free dudes, they still have gobs of dudes and bombers and poo poo in north america to come kick your super-extended Japanese foothold to pieces.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
According to some theories landing at Los Angeles will automatically and permanently knock out the aircraft industry concentrated there, and thus would be worth virtually any sacrifice.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
According to wiki, the 3rd army redeployed to the UK in december 1943. Does it still spawn on the West Coast if the Japanese player manages to land after that date?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Have any of you actually managed to invade the mainland as Japan in this game? or taken the Hawaiian islands?

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pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

MrMojok posted:

Have any of you actually managed to invade the mainland as Japan in this game? or taken the Hawaiian islands?

It's very feasible to invade mainland Japan in this game as the Allies. Usually the northernmost island. The AI
isn't very good at repulsing you once you get a foothold.

In Grey's last aborted attempt at the Imperial Edition, I ran an experiment to settle the urban legend of exactly what the US spawns when Japan lands there.

pthighs posted:

A large convoy slips from its moorings in the Truk lagoon before dawn on
December 18th, 1941. Where could it be headed?


BANZAIIIII!!!


A most glorious victory indeed. Fortune smiled upon us; the Americans are so focused
on Europe that they moved every single military unit they could to the East Coast.

San Francisco is now in the blessed rays of the rising sun.


So a bunch of units spawn for the Americans in Salt Lake City,
and start to make their way to LA and San Francisco for a hasty defence.






This massive convoy arises from the Great Salt Lake


A few also spawn in LA/San Luis Obispo:




Here are the two HQs that spawn:




There is no Patton, unfortunately, and I don't see him as an available leader
for either HQ.

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