NBA N/V: Buddy Hield, Feral Chucker

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dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

EvanTH posted:

I don't see how that comparison works at all

They're both ball-dominant undersized shoot-first 2s with some playmaking ability who take tons of terrible shots :shrug:

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Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

I thought Dipo was like a poor man's Westbrook that played off the ball more but I guess that's too many qualifiers and also I've seen him play like three times at most as a professional.

The Bulls are gonna be depressing but I'm excited to have Denzel Valentine in my backyard. Also looking forward to paying upwards of $15 to see another Bucks game because Thon and Gianni's sounds like a silly time.

Also I thought you guys were exaggerating Deyonta Davis' fall because total dejection is his resting facial expression, but apparently he cried

. At least he's going to a cool team. Still should've stayed another year and got himself into the lottery but I don't know what his family situation is like. Muskegon is not a great place.

Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jun 24, 2016

# ? Jun 24, 2016 15:59

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Dipo makes me nervous every time I watch him because he does that small player high dribble thing and his face looks like it's in a fuckin panic. He does all sorts of jumps and moves to make me cheer but man he can be a bonehead

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:03

Bush Did Outer Heaven: Jan 18, 2005; The Sweetest Payne

Cool Buff Man posted:

Dipo makes me nervous every time I watch him because he does that small player high dribble thing and his face looks like it's in a fuckin panic. He does all sorts of jumps and moves to make me cheer but man he can be a bonehead

he'll fit right in.

I've already said it once, but I've got even odds on Westbrook using physical violence against Ilyasova at some point.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:04

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

dokmo posted:

They're both ball-dominant undersized shoot-first 2s with some playmaking ability who take tons of terrible shots

There's tons of dudes who do that! You could've picked somebody who isn't forever famous for comparing themselves to Dwyane Wade you're a dang troll dokmo :mad:

I Will Not Be Trolled

also that one time Dejan compared Monta on defense to a forlorn ghost trapped in the spirit world who had to focus all his energy to make momentary contact with a living human being lol

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:05

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Carlisle truly was the Monta whisperer. Ever since Monta broke off the Ellis-Isle connection and emigrated elsewhere he's been ruining the nights of innocent pacers fans

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:07

Paul Zuvella: Dec 7, 2011

I'm apparently much lower on Serge than a ton of people here, but I love that trade for the Thunder.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:10

NickRoweFillea: Sep 27, 2012; doin thangs

hitze posted:

https://twitter.com/7A_NBA/status/746259809310126080

look at how loving chill kanter's face is in this pic

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:13

NickRoweFillea: Sep 27, 2012; doin thangs

mmmmmmmm bitch i feel goooooood
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:14

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Paul Zuvella posted:

I'm apparently much lower on Serge than a ton of people here, but I love that trade for the Thunder.

I think most people are fans of the trade for OKC.

Meanwhile I'm still upset at the Wolves pick

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:15

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

The Ibaka trade is bad in the short term when you're a title contender, because Ibaka was a big reason why the Spurs and Warriors series were in their advantage.

If Durant either leaves or signs a long deal, decent trade. If he takes a 1+1 deal like Lebron, bad deal.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:16

Bush Did Outer Heaven: Jan 18, 2005; The Sweetest Payne

I'll tell you all one thing: Serge is handsome and all those guys we got for him aren't. Questionable trade on the basis of that dimension alone.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:29

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

IcePhoenix posted:

I think most people are fans of the trade for OKC.

Meanwhile I'm still upset at the Wolves pick

Are you worried about Minny trading Rubio? Because it seems like Rubio/Lavine/Dunn is a pretty good backcourt rotation for the future.

Hashtag Banterzone fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jun 24, 2016

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:32

Paul Zuvella: Dec 7, 2011

Terry Glenn posted:

I'll tell you all one thing: Serge is handsome and all those guys we got for him aren't. Questionable trade on the basis of that dimension alone.

Can't argue there, Olidipo is straight busted looking.

IcePhoenix posted:

I think most people are fans of the trade for OKC.

Meanwhile I'm still upset at the Wolves pick

Why?

# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:45

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Since when is having two players who can score in the post and rebound well a bad thing? :psyduck:

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:02

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Are you worried about Minny trading Rubio? Because it seems like Rubio/Lavine/Dunn is a pretty good backcourt rotation for the future.

Dunn can't shoot, playing him and Rubio together would be a mistake, regardless of the coach/gm-speak we're getting from Thibs. The Wolves needed a shooter and they took the one guard in the top 15 that can't shoot. Rubio/LaVine/Hield or Rubio/Lavine/Murray would have been a way better three-headed monster because both non-Rubio guards can take advantage of the looks he finds for them.

Also yes I don't want them to trade Rubio because I want to see what happens when he's given a team that plays to all of his strengths.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:03

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Remember this?

pylb posted:

Breaking news: Danny Ainge smiled!!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/746094300644114432

In retrospect it's pretty clear Ainge saw The Video and smugly realized that no other GMs knew that Brown + a haircut had unlimited upside.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:06

anne frank fanfic: Oct 31, 2005

with their first picks of the NBA draft houston picks Some chinese dude and a man with China in his first name and the entire Karate Kid Movie sequel with Bill Smith's son

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:07

Jack's Flow: Jun 6, 2003; Life, friends, is boring

Paul Zuvella posted:

I'm apparently much lower on Serge than a ton of people here, but I love that trade for the Thunder.

No, I'm right there with you.

Terry Glenn posted:

I'll tell you all one thing: Serge is handsome and all those guys we got for him aren't. Questionable trade on the basis of that dimension alone.

Valid point though.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:10

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

IcePhoenix posted:

Dunn can't shoot, playing him and Rubio together would be a mistake, regardless of the coach/gm-speak we're getting from Thibs. The Wolves needed a shooter and they took the one guard in the top 15 that can't shoot. Rubio/LaVine/Hield or Rubio/Lavine/Murray would have been a way better three-headed monster because both non-Rubio guards can take advantage of the looks he finds for them.

Also yes I don't want them to trade Rubio because I want to see what happens when he's given a team that plays to all of his strengths.

I agree with this. I'm shocked they didn't take Buddy Hield. I assumed when they took Dunn they were immediately looking to trade him.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:10

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Guy on ESPN just said "hoa-keem Noah"

I wonder if he likes geeeeee eye rose

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:11

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Tae posted:

The Ibaka trade is bad in the short term when you're a title contender, because Ibaka was a big reason why the Spurs and Warriors series were in their advantage.

If Durant either leaves or signs a long deal, decent trade. If he takes a 1+1 deal like Lebron, bad deal.

They traded away part of what got them into and kept them in the WCF (a core part of their big lineup) to improve in what eventually lost them the WCF (lack of depth, Dion Waiters being their only bench guard). I guess we'll see what other WC contenders do next season, but so far OKC still has a better big lineup than most of them. They're still an insanely good team next season.

Do you think Serge will go back to being Good Serge next season?

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:15

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Terry Glenn posted:

I'll tell you all one thing: Serge is handsome and all those guys we got for him aren't. Questionable trade on the basis of that dimension alone.

Gotta compare names too tho:

Sergeballu LaMu Sayonga Loom Walahas Jonas Hugo Ibaka

vs.

Kehinde Babatunde Victor Oladipo

Hmm, Serge still comes out ahead.

Is KD gonna love-hate his new little buddy Oladipo as much as he love-hated Waiters? That's an underrated metric.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:18

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Metapod posted:

Since when is having two players who can score in the post and rebound well a bad thing?

It's not a bad thing, but not necessarily a great fit for an OKC team who only goes into the post once in a while as a change up from Durant and Westbrook. Maybe if Sabonis can hit the midrange in the NBA it'll be OK, though.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:22

tanglewood1420: Oct 28, 2010; The importance of this mission cannot be overemphasized

Ibaka may not have been quite as good last season as he was the year or two before, but he was still one of the best defensive rim protectors in the league, especially in the playoffs against OKC and SAS where he was great and was hitting threes at an amazing clip. I don't see how Sabonis coming in as a rookie can provide anywhere near equivalent value on the defensive end, and I don't think Oladipo offers you enough of an upgrade at sixth man to counter balance it. Obviously Victor and Sabonis are young and Ibaka may be on the downswing and is an upcoming FA so in the long term it could very well turn out to be a smart trade, but considering how close OKC were to a title this year it seems odd to me to make this move that in my eyes clearly makes them a worse team next year.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:41

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

tanglewood1420 posted:

Ibaka may not have been quite as good last season as he was the year or two before, but he was still one of the best defensive rim protectors in the league, especially in the playoffs against OKC and SAS where he was great and was hitting threes at an amazing clip. I don't see how Sabonis coming in as a rookie can provide anywhere near equivalent value on the defensive end, and I don't think Oladipo offers you enough of an upgrade at sixth man to counter balance it. Obviously Victor and Sabonis are young and Ibaka may be on the downswing and is an upcoming FA so in the long term it could very well turn out to be a smart trade, but considering how close OKC were to a title this year it seems odd to me to make this move that in my eyes clearly makes them a worse team next year.

Oladipo should start for OKC. He's much better than Waiters or Roberson.

Not sure what they will do at the 4 though, if they will run Kanter/Adams together or one of those 2 + Ilyasova, or Sabonis somewhere in the mix (although probably definitely not starting as a rookie). They have a lot of lineups they can play with but yeah their post defense will probably rely a lot more on Adams.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:46

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Start Roberson at PF

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:48

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
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tanglewood1420 posted:

Ibaka may not have been quite as good last season as he was the year or two before, but he was still one of the best defensive rim protectors in the league, especially in the playoffs against OKC and SAS where he was great and was hitting threes at an amazing clip. I don't see how Sabonis coming in as a rookie can provide anywhere near equivalent value on the defensive end, and I don't think Oladipo offers you enough of an upgrade at sixth man to counter balance it. Obviously Victor and Sabonis are young and Ibaka may be on the downswing and is an upcoming FA so in the long term it could very well turn out to be a smart trade, but considering how close OKC were to a title this year it seems odd to me to make this move that in my eyes clearly makes them a worse team next year.

Oladipo isn't a sixth man, he immediately bumps Waiters out of the starting lineup.

# ? Jun 24, 2016 17:50

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Kings All-Star DeMarcus Cousins told The Undefeated his draft night tweet had nothing to do with the draft. So what was it about? "A hot sculpting class," Cousins said jokingly.

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