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If I had to guess, they're probably selling less than 10000 Mac Pros a year. A 5K iMac is already better than the base Mac Pro in many ways and includes a display. Who knows how long the Mac Pro niche will continue to exist? Would be nice to see them update it, still.
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Jun 22, 2016 22:08
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Is anyone buying a base Mac Pro? I know 5 guys who own one and they all have the 6gb GPU's and 8 or 12 cores.
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Jun 22, 2016 22:12
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I hate to sound like Macrumors.txt but maybe this actually just is a product of having the 'money and operations' guy become the CEO- especially in the face of what looks to be a mammoth electric vehicle undertaking along with all of the iOS/Watch/more popular Mac stuff that they make. If Apple were willing to invest a relatively paltry (for their cash warchest) amount in fostering the development of Mac Pro-specific peripherals and upgrades like GPUs, it would go a tremendous way toward generating more consumer goodwill towards the Mac Pro. As it stands right now, it's kind of an ouroboros of bullshit and non-starts.
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Jun 22, 2016 23:46
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Not updating it for literally 3 years isn't helping.
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Jun 22, 2016 23:48
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1st AD posted:Is anyone buying a base Mac Pro? I know 5 guys who own one and they all have the 6gb GPU's and 8 or 12 cores. Reminds me of MKBHD's hackintosh video -- I feel like a good deal of the audience that pertains to the Mac Pro knows hackintosh is a thing, and can build a comparable PC for much less money. The only trade off to me is fan noise, unless one splurges on a full water cooling setup.
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Jun 23, 2016 00:09
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Eh, I have a Hackintosh and after messing with it for a couple weeks I just said gently caress it and installed Windows and just do my work on my Macbook Pro, then RDP into the PC and send the assets off for rendering. My friends who have a Mac Pro know Hackintosh is a thing and really don't want to be bothered, also they're much more successful than I am at photography and video and earn enough income to where the effort isn't worth it.
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Jun 23, 2016 00:24
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The downtown Boston Apple store's had one on display since it launched. It's a unique, attractive machine and I was initially taken aback by how tiny it actually is in real life. Here's hoping Thunderbolt 3 + the new Xeons + the possibility of a display refresh means Apple breathes some life into it.
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Jun 23, 2016 00:38
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Electric Bugaloo posted:As it stands right now, it's kind of an ouroboros of bullshit and non-starts. Yeah, it doesn't feel like a seriously supported (as in regular upgrades) product. enojy posted:Reminds me of MKBHD's hackintosh video -- I feel like a good deal of the audience that pertains to the Mac Pro knows hackintosh is a thing, and can build a comparable PC for much less money. The only trade off to me is fan noise, unless one splurges on a full water cooling setup. The tradeoff for me as in all things Mac is rather that there's no fiddling involved, I can have a configuration that's guaranteed to work on the table within a guaranteed time frame, and if I have the slightest problem with it, I can have it looked at pretty soon. It also has a certain build quality and looks good. Basically their products are all no-brainers. Case in point: I got an NVIDIA GTX 1080 for my PC, and it was absolutely impossible to install the graphics driver without disabling the iGPU. (The default cure-all of the clueless, "reinstall Windows" would not have fixed it.) I found this by googling, otherwise I would have had to run it with Windows default drivers. Other fun situations have included not being able to use a new CPU because the new motherboard's BIOS needs to be flashed, but not being able to flash the BIOS without a CPU in it. Building your own PC is all fine and overall great for games, but it's not something I'd recommend to people who need a task done within a given time frame. It's more of an adventure.
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Jun 23, 2016 02:54
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flavor posted:Building your own PC is all fine and overall great for games, but it's not something I'd recommend to people who need a task done within a given time frame. It's more of an adventure. Sure, but can't you buy prebuilt PCs that have all the right drivers installed and so forth?
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Jun 23, 2016 03:39
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Subjunctive posted:Sure, but can't you buy prebuilt PCs that have all the right drivers installed and so forth? Yeah, but I was replying to somebody talking about how cheap it is to build PCs. Also if you buy prebuilt, you still have to deal with all the garbage when you want to upgrade parts and if that's not an issue, the quality of the support (if any) is one. I don't want to turn this into a PC vs Mac advocacy discussion. To me, they're both different philosophies with different tradeoffs and hardware is just a one aspect.
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Jun 23, 2016 08:34
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I feel like the Mac Pro design we got should have been the new mini and they should have continued making cheese graters with updated internals for those who needed them but I'm not at the same pay grade as an Apple exec so
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Jun 23, 2016 11:05
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8ender posted:I feel like the Mac Pro design we got should have been the new mini and they should have continued making cheese graters with updated internals for those who needed them but I'm not at the same pay grade as an Apple exec so That'd be the dream. An i3 and iris in a tiny little cylinder would make a lot more sense. Actual 'Pro' users usually are tied to a desk with 1 - 5 displays and other peripherals. A tower isn't a bad idea in that circumstance. Cylinder would look really nice in HTPC / general office use.
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Jun 23, 2016 14:11
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What would have the power to comfortably work with Photoshop/Lightroom/Maya while using Astropad? Ideally I wouldn't want a laptop as I have my iPad Pro for that kind of stuff and and iMac would be nice but I have an ultrawide monitor I'd rather use. That kind of leaves the Mac mini and Mac Pro but those are both in awkward positions and so am I by the looks of it.
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Jun 23, 2016 14:27
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ijyt posted:What would have the power to comfortably work with Photoshop/Lightroom/Maya while using Astropad? Just get something with a Retina display. If you're cross shopping a Mac Mini and Mac Pro, then I assume you can afford every [common] flavor of rMBP or iMac. Consider either a 13" or 15" rMBP connected to your ultrawide (but probably not hi-res) monitor or a 5K 27" iMac, which could also be connected to the display- the resolution differences may bug you, however.
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Jun 23, 2016 14:51
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Posting from a Mac Pro. It's still a nice machine for Xcode, and matching dual retina monitors is a godsend on the eyes. Fan noise is amazing for audio. We had an old setup where we remoted a cheese grater across the hall just so our audio lab would be usable. With the MP in there we could have dual monitors / peripherals all attached and convenient. That said, had it been my money I couldn't have afforded it, and would have bought an iMac. And holy poo poo three years without a bump. I mean come on.
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Jun 23, 2016 15:59
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Regarding replacing the processor in a 4,1 (well, now 5,1...) Mac Pro, once I've cleaned the heatsink, is Gelid GC Extreme ok to use? I'm assuming so and have a tube of it lying around but wanted to check in and see if there'd be any reason to use a conductive TIM.
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Jun 24, 2016 07:05
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So this may need to go in the hardware thread, but I figured its worth a try. I bit the bullet and got my rMBP. Trying to learn Mac from Windows. I would like for the computer to just come on when I open it up. Is that an option? Or do I have to enter a password every time (even if that password is blank)?
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Jun 24, 2016 16:14
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Snowmankilla posted:So this may need to go in the hardware thread, but I figured its worth a try. I bit the bullet and got my rMBP. Trying to learn Mac from Windows. I would like for the computer to just come on when I open it up. Is that an option? Or do I have to enter a password every time (even if that password is blank)? Go to System Preferences, Security and Privacy and turn off the Require Password option!
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Jun 24, 2016 16:17
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Go to System Preferences, Security and Privacy and turn off the Require Password option! drat it. So easy! I was in users and could not figure it out. Thanks, 2 days in and I am really digging it. It is also so pretty and well put together it makes me happy every time I use it. The only negative is that between my new Macbook, my iPad and my wife having an iPhone, I am wondering how long I can stay #neveriPhone when my Samsung is up for a upgrade.
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Jun 24, 2016 16:29
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Snowmankilla posted:drat it. So easy! I was in users and could not figure it out. Thanks, Ha. Honestly I would recommend switching not necessarily because it's better (it is for me, but everybody's different!) but because it's nice to have features working together when your loved ones are on iOS. Having said that I'd skip this year's iPhone and buy next year if you want a flagship model.
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Jun 24, 2016 16:52
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Yeah, I am not due for about 5 months, so I can wait for a big upgrade.
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Jun 24, 2016 16:58
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Snowmankilla posted:Yeah, I am not due for about 5 months, so I can wait for a big upgrade. Until recently (less than a year ago) the only Apple device I owned was an iPad. I had an Asus windows computer and a HTC smartphone. The iPhone works together so well with macs it's hard to imagine ever getting a different phone, even though I think the latest Samsung phones look amazing. iCloud photo library and Airdrop are really great especially.
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Jun 24, 2016 17:39
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iMessage SMS forwarding is a killer feature as well. My texts are now much longer than my android/Windows/Luddite friends' now, though. 
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Jun 24, 2016 17:52
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Snowmankilla posted:drat it. So easy! I was in users and could not figure it out. Thanks, I have a MacBook Pro, iPad Mini and an iPhone but other than syncing music with iTunes I don't use any of the other stuff to link them. iMessage, iCloud, Safari shared bookmarks...None of it.
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Jun 24, 2016 18:13
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Bob Morales posted:I have a MacBook Pro, iPad Mini and an iPhone but other than syncing music with iTunes I don't use any of the other stuff to link them. iMessage, iCloud, Safari shared bookmarks...None of it. Why would you do this to yourself?
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Jun 24, 2016 18:22
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I Am Crake posted:..even though I think the latest Samsung phones look amazing. Looks can be deceiving. My wife has last years model, and the one before that previously, and while they appear to be decent units on the surface I don't think I deal with a single piece of hardware that frustrates me so much.
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Jun 24, 2016 18:33
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Ugh I really hope they're not actually doing the Thunderbolt Display with eGPU thing, that's like the worst possible choice they could make for me.
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Jun 24, 2016 18:35
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Bob Morales posted:I have a MacBook Pro, iPad Mini and an iPhone but other than syncing music with iTunes I don't use any of the other stuff to link them. iMessage, iCloud, Safari shared bookmarks...None of it. Why?!!!
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Jun 24, 2016 18:59
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tuyop posted:Why would you do this to yourself? I don't do the same stuff on my iPhone as my computer. And my iPad is used by my girlfriend at home.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:31
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http://slickdeals.net/f/8866975-app...-asc-fs-bestbuy Current model 11" Air is $599 with $100 student coupon @ Best Buy
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wdarkk posted:Ugh I really hope they're not actually doing the Thunderbolt Display with eGPU thing, that's like the worst possible choice they could make for me. It is by far the most plausible idea for a real Apple product involving external GPU support I have ever seen. If you want generic eGPU, you actually want this product to be real even if you aren't going to buy it, simply because it will require macOS support for hot-plug GPUs and that should help third party solutions. Or is it that you want a 5k Thunderbolt Display and don't want it to have a captive GPU?
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BobHoward posted:Or is it that you want a 5k Thunderbolt Display and don't want it to have a captive GPU? This. Does anyone make a high-dpi 21:9 monitor?
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BobHoward posted:It is by far the most plausible idea for a real Apple product involving external GPU support I have ever seen. If you want generic eGPU, you actually want this product to be real even if you aren't going to buy it, simply because it will require macOS support for hot-plug GPUs and that should help third party solutions. wdarkk posted:This. Does anyone make a high-dpi 21:9 monitor?  . I'll probably just settle for a normal res 21:9 eventually rather than a 4-5K display, easier to drive and arguably more usable space. Too bad they're still pricey 
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Yeah I'm not sure what the big complaint is since nothing really runs single stream connections yet. Once they can you'll see the second iteration probably drop the GPU. Also, Dell already sells this monitor if someone wants to buy it now (Apple isn't going to sell a 21:9 anytime soon either). I'm just stoked because it means I can just leave my gaming PC hooked up to the TV downstairs (where my spouse plays) and use a new laptop as my single PC with a dock if I want to game on my monitor.
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Bob Morales posted:I have a MacBook Pro, iPad Mini and an iPhone but other than syncing music with iTunes I don't use any of the other stuff to link them. iMessage, iCloud, Safari shared bookmarks...None of it. tuyop posted:Why would you do this to yourself? To be able to say that.
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I have a mid-2009 MBP that I want to install an SSD in. I've looked at some guides online but I just want to confirm that it's easy as: 1) Externally plugging in the new SSD and copying the HD image over (Any recommendation on software I should use for this?) 2) Installing the new SSD into the MBP The two SSD's that I've looked at are the following and I'm wondering why there is such a big difference between the price. I will more than likely just go with the cheaper Crucial one unless anyone here has any suggestions. Crucial BX200 240GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive - $64.99 - https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX20...n%3A14027458011 Samsung 850 EVO - 250GB - 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD - $93.77 - https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-...n%3A14027458011 I also would need to buy a USB - SATA cable like this, correct? - https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Speed-Adapter-Cable-22Pin/dp/B01440BTS8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466810790&sr=8-2&keywords=ssd+cable+usb
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Busy Bee posted:I have a mid-2009 MBP that I want to install an SSD in. I've looked at some guides online but I just want to confirm that it's easy as: I mean, it should be as easy as booting into a Linux USB and in terminal dding the original drive to the new one. Whether this will work with the recovery partition and boot loader and drive UUIDs and all the assorted craziness, who knows? You should probably just backup to time machine, swap drives, then restore from time machine. That's kind of what it's for.
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Busy Bee posted:Installing an SSD..... I actually just did this with my girlfriend's machine using that same cable, a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO and the free trial of carbon copy cloner. Super easy to do. Also get the 850 EVO. It's the standard recommendation for a reason.
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Viper_3000 posted:I actually just did this with my girlfriend's machine using that same cable, a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO and the free trial of carbon copy cloner. Super easy to do. Good to know, thank you.
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