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Zoness posted:this new mindslaver rules change is really loving stupid What rules changes is this?
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Zoness posted:this new mindslaver rules change is really loving stupid What's the change?
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Jun 25, 2016 00:09
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https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/4pplrm/rules_update_controlling_another_player_and/ the most important part: quote:Simply put, you can now never see an opponent's sideboard, even if you control that opponent. The exact language of the rule is being finalized. not looking at a SB seems ok but making it so wishes dont work on people you're mind slaving seems really dumb Zoness fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 00:10
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Yeah that seems dumb, especially when they're printing a new wish so this will be pretty much the first time a mindslaver and a wish are both in the same standard and potentially playable. I forget what they changed with flip cards for SOI but I recall that being a functional change too (I think it was color identity is only the front side, even when they're flipped?) and it would be nice if they wouldn't make largely useless edge-case functional changes. Like I can understand global changes like "dies" or the M10 rules update or the 6E rules update and the changes that go in to make those work correctly (like Lotus Vale's errata). But there's no reason to close this down other than some minor tournament function changes.
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Jun 25, 2016 00:19
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Sigma-X posted:Yeah that seems dumb, especially when they're printing a new wish so this will be pretty much the first time a mindslaver and a wish are both in the same standard and potentially playable. Also CMC is always of the front face so no more blowing up insectile aberration with EE on 0.
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Jun 25, 2016 00:21
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Sigma-X posted:Yeah that seems dumb, especially when they're printing a new wish so this will be pretty much the first time a mindslaver and a wish are both in the same standard and potentially playable. I think it had to do with stacking multiple flip triggers on a card that is currently on side A to make it flip back to side A without using its side B flip. I think that rule is actually ok though even if it's inelegant. kirtar posted:Also CMC is always of the front face so no more blowing up insectile aberration with EE on 0. Yeah but this is how it always should have been too imo (in the sense that I stopped playing between MBS and RTR so when I first played with DFCs again this is how I thought they worked) but some weird designer guys have weird ideas about cards.
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Jun 25, 2016 00:21
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Zoness posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/4pplrm/rules_update_controlling_another_player_and/ Not a fan either, and  about the Wish note, it's "too much".The transforming changes I'm cool with mostly, one is fixing a minor loophole, the other makes sense (since CMC has tended to correlate with "power", in the general case, it doesn't make sense why Avacyn would die to Pernicious Deed for 0 along with Ornithopters), and as much as I don't like all of Commander's colour issues, it DOES make sense that a creature that's W on the front and R on the back would be BOTH overall.
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Jun 25, 2016 00:26
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P1P2 Fulminator Mage Seriously?
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Jun 25, 2016 00:34
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Zoness posted:this new mindslaver rules change is really loving stupid Agreed. It's like they're trying to change rules for things they're bringing back into standard to avoid any kind of feelbads or confusion except the things they think people are getting confused about aren't confusing. Personally I think they changed the rule because they're too incompetent to implement the look at their sideboard feature on MTGO and want paper to match. Zoness posted:Yeah but this is how it always should have been too imo (in the sense that I stopped playing between MBS and RTR so when I first played with DFCs again this is how I thought they worked) but some weird designer guys have weird ideas about cards. That's how it always should have been but it wasn't so changing it now just introduces a ton of confusion for no reason. Like even now 4 months or whatever later, in my head Repeal can bounce a flipped Delver for U.
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Jun 25, 2016 00:54
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the fact that they would do this but not do anything about the Brain in a Jar / Fuse ruling is beyond me.
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Jun 25, 2016 01:30
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Serperoth posted:Yeah, hoping for another pair of Exemplar nominations soon. The current wave got announced this week.
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Jun 25, 2016 01:34
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Count Bleck posted:P1P2 Fulminator Mage What was missing?
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Jun 25, 2016 01:46
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Some Numbers posted:What was missing? An uncommon.  I'm 2-0, today I learned Stillmoon Cavalier is A Really Good Card. I've got this pile: 
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Jun 25, 2016 01:48
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It could have easily been Incremental Blight, Jaws of Stone or Biting Tether. Especially if the drafter didn't know what Fulminator Mages are worth.
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Jun 25, 2016 02:11
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How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format.
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Jun 25, 2016 02:12
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the Orb of Zot posted:How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format. I love SoI draft. I've played it a bunch of times and had a lot of fun with it. Last one i was at a guy won it with a Dmir deck, so UB isn't as underpowered in limited as everyone thinks.
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Jun 25, 2016 02:18
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Count Bleck posted:An uncommon. Doesn't black and blue cast every card in your deck? Why are there so many colors in your mana base?
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Jun 25, 2016 02:30
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ShadeofBlue posted:Doesn't black and blue cast every card in your deck? Why are there so many colors in your mana base? I realized this right after I went into round 1, yeah. Edit: Lost in the finals and got to play another one, got a pretty cool rear end mono green deck   Things I have learned: Wither applies -1/-1 counters one at a time, which makes Flourishing Defenses trigger multiple times. Rhys is neat. Presence of Gond is also neat. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 02:54
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Around 800 people at GP Taipei. I'm 0-1 already, if I lose next round I'm quitting to play Modern.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:21
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the Orb of Zot posted:How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format. It's a very very good limited format. Retromancer posted:Last one i was at a guy won it with a Dmir deck, so UB isn't as underpowered in limited as everyone thinks. Do people think UB is underpowered? I remember it being very strong and BR being the underpowered one.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:26
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the Orb of Zot posted:How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format. I don't love it. I find it kinda middling. I've done pretty well with the format and played it a ton, but I'm not very impressed with it. I can't put my finger on exactly why though. Part of it is probably that I've lost the first round every time I've had a good interesting deck, and won with some of the boringest decks assembled this side of origins.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:31
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the Orb of Zot posted:How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format. It's really good for experienced drafters because there's a wide variety of interesting and viable decks. There's a healthy balance between aggro, midrange, control, and goofy synergy decks. Lots of ways to use excess lands and slowly generate value means there's few board stalls and more meaningful decisions. It's not that good for new players though because the more obvious tribal synergies are all traps, and new players have a hard time understanding why they would want to sacrifice their own permanents, discard cards, or mill themselves. The flavor is good which helps make up for this a bit.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:34
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I want to start playing non Pauper MTG again. Somebody talk me out of it.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:34
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rabidsquid posted:I want to start playing non Pauper MTG again. Somebody talk me out of it. Play on Tabletop Simulator for free.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:35
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rabidsquid posted:I want to start playing non Pauper MTG again. Somebody talk me out of it. i mean it can't be worse than playing against ghostly flicker right
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Jun 25, 2016 03:47
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rabidsquid posted:I want to start playing non Pauper MTG again. Somebody talk me out of it. that money could be used for food
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Jun 25, 2016 03:51
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mandatory lesbian posted:that money could be used for food I do like food. I could also finish my sleeve or buy a VR headset or buy a few hundred sodas.
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Jun 25, 2016 03:57
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buy a vive then play tabletop simulator MtG for free with it. It'll be like you're actually playing cards in real life!
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Jun 25, 2016 04:03
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Elyv posted:I'm willing to buy that they thought spatial contortion and tendrils would be playable. Not willing to buy that they thought Vestige was playable, though. Vestige is an interesting card in Pauper. It's an odd pick for a FNM card but I'd consider it more reasonable than spatial.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:10
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the Orb of Zot posted:How do people feel about SoI draft anyways? I'm not that big of a fan, but I want to hear other opinions rather than just assume it's a bad limited format. I don't draft all that often, but I have tried one here and there since Mirrodin. SOI is the first draft I've won more than one round, so I like it! I managed to take all three rounds, with Sin Prodder and Insolent Neonate doing most of the work. I probably just got lucky, but it was still the most fun I've had drafting.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:13
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SOI draft is fun! Green is probably a little too good, but all the colors are viable and there's a lot of decent archetypes. Best format since 3x KTK imo.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:40
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Some Numbers posted:It's a very very good limited format. It's not unplayable but it's very weak imo. Blue is the worst color in the set, and Black is a support color with a few powerful cards and removal spells, but few ways to actually close games out. BR can be good if you get a lot of good madness stuff but it's really hard because all the enablers and payoff are at uncommon so they're no guarantee you'll see the cards you need.
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little munchkin posted:It's not unplayable but it's very weak imo. Blue is the worst color in the set, and Black is a support color with a few powerful cards and removal spells, but few ways to actually close games out. Sorry, I just realized that I misunderstood the conversation and I thought you were talking about Shadowmoor. I haven't drafted SoI.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:56
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rabidsquid posted:I do like food. I could also finish my sleeve or buy a VR headset or buy a few hundred sodas. Ask me how to spend it all on your car 
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Jun 25, 2016 06:05
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rabidsquid posted:I want to start playing non Pauper MTG again. Somebody talk me out of it. Think of us. Every time you want to play this game, remember the goons, and imagine getting paired against one of us in a tournament.
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Jun 25, 2016 06:51
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I drafted tonight, did reasonably well. Didn't catch it until game 3, but what looked like my opponent sideboarding was him manaweaving. He had been doing this in the previous games as well, so I mentioned "hey, if you sufficiently randomize your deck, manaweaving serves no purpose." Afterwards he pile shuffled, did three awkward not-quite mash-cut shuffles and presented his deck. So, not sufficiently randomized at all. I picked up his deck, did 14 quick mash shuffles, cut it, and handed it back. I'm unsure if it did anything, but it's one of those moments where I didn't feel like I needed to watch my opponent. It's unfortunate that this guy, either out of ignorance or duplicity, was stacking his deck every game.
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Jun 25, 2016 06:55
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Looking at the MTG Goldfish home page I happened to notice on the sidebar that Nimbus Maze was apparently bought out this week, as its average price is now nearly $40.00. Is there anything to this or is this just some random speculation? (probably hot hot speculation i know)
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Jun 25, 2016 06:56
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just rust posted:Looking at the MTG Goldfish home page I happened to notice on the sidebar that Nimbus Maze was apparently bought out this week, as its average price is now nearly $40.00. Is there anything to this or is this just some random speculation? (probably hot hot speculation i know) No, it's the worst of the cycle and to my knowledge has no place in Modern or any other format at present.
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Jun 25, 2016 07:00
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TheKingofSprings posted:No, it's the worst of the cycle and to my knowledge has no place in Modern or any other format at present. It's barely playable in commander.
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Jun 25, 2016 07:03
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The reason it would ever see play is if it were reprinted in Standard, and even then $40 for a slightly-blinged-out version of a $3 card is not going to pay off even if it is reprinted. Even in Standard it probably wouldn't see play unless you had typed duals or need specifically colourless mana for something, and it would be strange of wizards to print a third set of allied lands while zendikar was still around. It seems like a pretty poor spec choice, honestly. They'd be better off buying out River of Tears, which is never going to be reprinted but at least has niche playability.
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