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Can anyone tell me about the *long-term* impact of #brexit? By which I mean: How does this affect DeepMind?
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Can anyone tell me about the *long-term* impact of #brexit? By which I mean: How does this affect DeepMind? Okay, you beautiful animal, what's DeepMind?
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LordSaturn posted:Okay, you beautiful animal, what's DeepMind? Oh gently caress not smug transhumanism quotes
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Well I sure hope the EU doesn't go act like a bully after what they did to Greece.
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LordSaturn posted:Okay, you beautiful animal, what's DeepMind? Googles neural network research company. It beat a human being playing Go this year.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I'm glad, in times of crisis, we have people like St_Rev to "um actually" while avoiding taking an opinion like one of the untermenschen I'm not against calling out silly hyperbole like that. Though to be fair to the NPR guy, stuff like the Great Leap Forward was done by authoritarian governments; Brexit was unforced national self-harm because it was done directly by the majority.
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Silver2195 posted:I'm not against calling out silly hyperbole like that. Though to be fair to the NPR guy, stuff like the Great Leap Forward was done by authoritarian governments; Brexit was unforced national self-harm because it was done directly by the majority. https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/746304268647292928 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/746284794170859520 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/746237334887112705 https://twitter.com/turrible_tao/status/746371640112480257
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So... is st_rev another one of those people who doesn't know what "neoliberal" means, or is he actually getting a dig in on the free trade of the eurozone?
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ikanreed posted:So... is st_rev another one of those people who doesn't know what "neoliberal" means, or is he actually getting a dig in on the free trade of the eurozone? st_rev is one of those people who believes having a "consistent ideology" is for foolish tribals and "sneer culture" enthusiasts.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:st_rev is one of those people who believes having a "consistent ideology" is for foolish tribals and "sneer culture" enthusiasts. In this case I think it's that he's holding up consistency in a value, albeit in a somewhat absurd way: that is, some people on the left dislike neoliberalism, but also dislike Brexit; because neoliberals dislike Brexit, these lefties are inconsistent - because, I suppose, if you dislike one thing you should like anything that is different from it in any way. I will promptly use this principle to imply that St_Rev is a full-on vulgar Stormfront Nazi, rather than the sophisticated Nazi he plays at.
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Oligopsony posted:In this case I think it's that he's holding up consistency in a value, albeit in a somewhat absurd way: that is, some people on the left dislike neoliberalism, but also dislike Brexit; because neoliberals dislike Brexit, these lefties are inconsistent - because, I suppose, if you dislike one thing you should like anything that is different from it in any way. I will promptly use this principle to imply that St_Rev is a full-on vulgar Stormfront Nazi, rather than the sophisticated Nazi he plays at. Um, did you read his twitter bio?He's clearly a anti-authoritarian, grimbertarian, law-abiding anarchist, right-intersectionalist, antisocialist, SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. 
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Ironically, I just read a massive article supporting Brexit from a left-wing perspective: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/11/exit-left-the-socialist-case-for-britain-leaving-the-eu The main argument is that the EU is a neoliberal project.
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Count Chocula posted:Ironically, I just read a massive article supporting Brexit from a left-wing perspective: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/11/exit-left-the-socialist-case-for-britain-leaving-the-eu And it is. But it's a neoliberal project among first world nations with relatively decent standards of living and regulatory environments. It doesn't really push a race to the bottom the same way as free trade with your Chinas or your Bangladeshes out there, nor an overconsumptive neocolonial raw material extraction like elsewhere in the third world. Faulting something merely for being neoliberal is kinda a genetic fallacy.
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The UK is/was neoliberal as gently caress without the EU, and shows no signs of wanting to head in intelligent directions socially or economically. You have to be a certain kind of fool to view Brexit as an escape from neoliberalism. Possibly the equivalent of someone who didn't believe there were WMDs in Iraq but thought it would be a wise thing to invade anyway.
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Fututor Magnus posted:https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/746507365214609408 St_Rev: Lol I love seeing those progs scream Other Guy: Hey man, this is serious, I'm worried about my friends St_Rev: I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION SO I AM NOT MORALLY CULPABLE This is your brain on meta-level
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It's time for an update on Rationalist Tumblr! Did you know that accurately summarizing a rationalist's beliefs is "brazen dishonesty"?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:St_Rev: Lol I love seeing those progs scream Sometimes when the alt right argues with its own radicals its like watching the hemispheres of a brain operating independently from each other following some radical brain surgery or injury.
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Curvature of Earth posted:It's time for an update on Rationalist Tumblr! You are summarizing a thing in a way that sounds wrong even though it was clearly written by a member of the rationalist ingroup. Therefor lies
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The Vosgian Beast posted:You are summarizing a thing in a way that sounds wrong even though it was clearly written by a member of the rationalist ingroup. Therefor lies "being so blatantly and obviously misrepresented is a good thing." 
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divabot posted:someone: [claim] Not just rationalists, I literally watched this exact sequence play out with a trump supporter on twitter who didn't think trump had ever contradicted himself about anything ever. Direct cited trump quotes
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For next time a rationalist claims absolutely nobody believes in Roko's Basilisk, and especially anything to do with basilisks and donations to MIRI. It's self-reported therefore poo poo for survey or percentage purposes, but does constitute multiple people from LessWrong and diaspora standing up and saying "Yes, I believe in and am worried by the Basilisk" and "I have donated money to MIRI because of it."
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One of the replies to nostalgebraist's post about opting out of the latest mini-drama on Rationalist Tumblr was this gem defending theunitofcaring: divabot's brought this up elsewhere, but Rationalist Tumblr often uses the same bad social justice strawman logic they accuse SJWs of. (Viz aggressively deploying membership within an oppressed group as a shield to negate or turnabout all possible criticism.) And for the record, I'm Jewish, and I still think picking a username in direct reference to the idea that money is the sum of all priorities doesn't cast her in a particularly good light. But don't mind me, just a self-hating autistic Jew here.
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divabot posted:someone: [claim] Well, this might have hit a bit close to home: http://brazenautomaton.tumblr.com/post/146468594404/someone-claim-rationalist-lies-lies-lying-liar, congrats I guess!
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are we allowed to post from That Place because https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2k2o0s/why_do_so_many_prominent_sa_goons_adhere_to_the/ quote:SJW ideology fills a religion-shaped hole, in a world where religion (with thanks to scientific advancement and education) is less and less relevant. It has the same "chosen one" feeling as religion (you are one of the select few who truly 'sees' the world as it is (false consciousness etc)) but it also massages the ego, in that it's wrapped up in a thin veneer of intellectualism. It's not intellectual in any way, of course, but since academia as a whole is considered to be an intellectual arena, and humanities departments are the breeding-ground of SJW ideology - if you are particularly vulnerable to the cognitive bias that is the Dunning-Kruger effect (as many of these people seem to be) then SJW ideology can make you feel very important and intelligent indeed. theres simply not enough irony in this post BornAPoorBlkChild has a new favorite as of 01:04 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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oscarthewilde posted:Well, this might have hit a bit close to home: http://brazenautomaton.tumblr.com/post/146468594404/someone-claim-rationalist-lies-lies-lying-liar, congrats I guess! brazenautomaton is a GamerGater, so I'm sure he knows all about liars.
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:St_rev is surprisingly not made out of straw Unsurprising, since straw isn't made of salt.
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oscarthewilde posted:Well, this might have hit a bit close to home: http://brazenautomaton.tumblr.com/post/146468594404/someone-claim-rationalist-lies-lies-lying-liar, congrats I guess! Okay this is probably the cue to step off, because that dude has Problems. BrazenAutomaton, if you're out there, please don't read things that distress you like this, I've been through that hell and it is not pretty 
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Scott Adams has strong opinions about sweaters.V-neck sweaters are oppression posted:...the humiliation of American men is now institutionalized in the media. With that attitude, I have a hard time believing he gets any presents. Curvature of Earth has a new favorite as of 09:38 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Okay this is probably the cue to step off, because that dude has Problems. Seconding this. BrazenAutomaton, I pay my therapist way too much money for this advice so consider this a favor: No one is forcing you to do any of this, if you really are stressed out by anything posted on this thread I suggest you take a break from the internet for a few days. I know, that might sound impossible, it sounded impossible to me at first, but believe me when I say you will be refreshed after a few days without having to deal with the things that piss you off.
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