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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
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Scotland needs to pack up its poo poo and leave now before you suicidal bastards find a new way to ruin everything.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:20
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Hollismason posted:I think it'd gently caress up the British Army as well aren't there a good number of Scots in the British Army? I'm fairly sure our subs alternate between being stationed in Scotland and Plymouth when they're not at sea. FinalGamer posted:All I know is that Scotland didn't get to have a recount so neither do the Vote Leave. It doesn't matter how many you petition, you hosed up, the pound dropped, gave the world trade a heart attack, and the EU have seen the clear ignorance and hatred that unearthed itself, and there's no backsies. Parliament is under no obligation to follow the results of the referendum, though. You may want to see the UK collapse for whatever reason, but if those in power decide to ignore the referendum then they can. All the referendum told the government is that roughly a quarter of the population want to leave and an unknown percentage of those voters came to regret the decision immediately upon the consequences coming into effect. jabby posted:This is it guys. Night of the long knives for Corbyn is officially a go, and Benn is the instigator. Benn made a complete fool of himself throughout the referendum campaign and if he becomes the next Labour leader than their party is officially dead. They should have taken the hint when Miliband faceplanted, but I guess they want to see the Tories with a majority again because...?
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Jun 25, 2016 22:22
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/24/british_voters_regretting_their_decisions_a_roundup.html The tears are the only thing consoling me. ^^ When the oust attempt fails do you think they'll finally accept his mandate or do you think they'll blame him for his non-demise, in classic style?
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Jun 25, 2016 22:22
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Pissflaps posted:The longer the Brexit/Independence process takes, the more chance there is for this feeling of injustice to fade and for economic reality to erode nationalist fervour. Y'know, all the myriads of economic advantages of staying attached to a country headed straight for an economic depression, as opposed to maintaining free trade with a much more stable market.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:23
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jabby posted:This is it guys. Night of the long knives for Corbyn is officially a go, and Benn is the instigator. the graun as an institution is publicly masturbating, which should be an offence
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Jun 25, 2016 22:24
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Chuck Tingle has the hottest of Brexit takes.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:25
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Pissflaps posted:I think for Scotland to get independence the SNP has to make it happen now, while emotions are high. The young No voters who were also young Remain voters will feel the most hurt by this because the horizon of their personal identity is so much wider. I think they'll give up being British for being European.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:25
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Ddraig posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/24/british_voters_regretting_their_decisions_a_roundup.html It sounds like Benn & co. will resign if Corbyn refuses to step down, and nobody would miss them.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:26
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Well Corbyn wanted to shuffle Benn out, I guess now he gets his wish.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:26
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Fans posted:Well Corbyn wanted to shuffle Benn out, I guess now he gets his wish. be a hell of a garbage day after the membership just votes corbyn right back in
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Jun 25, 2016 22:27
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Joda posted:Y'know, all the myriads of economic advantages of staying attached to a country headed straight for an economic depression, as opposed to maintaining free trade with a much more stable market. This. I thought Scotland leaving before was a bad idea but why should they commit economic suicide along with us instead of becoming basically another Finland within the EU? The economic argument has changed hugely and that was what stopped Yes last time, as it should have stopped Leave but didnt because English and Welsh people are idiots.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:28
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SUNKOS posted:Parliament is under no obligation to follow the results of the referendum, though. As long as Cameron still walks, great!
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Jun 25, 2016 22:29
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:be a hell of a garbage day after the membership just votes corbyn right back in Your Labour party has something to learn from our Social Democrats. Latest leader change was literally an appointment by the previous leader. No need to worry about that pesky, ideologically fueled membership.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:30
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feedmegin posted:This. I thought Scotland leaving before was a bad idea but why should they commit economic suicide along with us instead of becoming basically another Finland within the EU? The economic argument has changed hugely and that was what stopped Yes last time, as it should have stopped Leave but didnt because English and Welsh people are idiots. please dont be mean to leave voters they might get offended and torpedo the country again to make sure
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Jun 25, 2016 22:30
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SUNKOS posted:Benn made a complete fool of himself throughout the referendum campaign and if he becomes the next Labour leader than their party is officially dead. They should have taken the hint when Miliband faceplanted, but I guess they want to see the Tories with a majority again because...? Because they have no conception of the level of support Corbyn enjoys from his party, and they think (wrongly) that they have a better chance of winning their way.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:31
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I don't care about Corbyn's suits or anything about what he does with his cabinet, and I certainly don't give a gently caress about PMQs, but the Labour leadership dodged this whole referendum when they should have been convincing their base of the positives of the EU. Ironically though, as a pragmatist, whether Corbyn wanted to stay in or not doesn't matter any more, because the vote is over. So all that's left is to decide whether he's the right person to run the left-wing party of the UK we have now.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:32
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thespaceinvader posted:Because they have no conception of the level of support Corbyn enjoys from his party, and they think (wrongly) that they have a better chance of winning their way. Yep. Corbyn needs to step down for this to work.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwK0jeJ8wxg Mark Blyth likes brexit but says it was done for the wrong reasons, also feels we should take the hamptons over by force.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:34
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Hoops posted:I don't care about Corbyn's suits or anything about what he does with his cabinet, and I certainly don't give a gently caress about PMQs, but the Labour leadership dodged this whole referendum when they should have been convincing their base of the positives of the EU. Pissflaps posted:Yep. Corbyn needs to step down for this to work.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:35
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Joda posted:Your Labour party has something to learn from our Social Democrats. Latest leader change was literally an appointment by the previous leader. No need to worry about that pesky, ideologically fueled membership. Fun fact, the only reason that Corbyn managed to get in is because they changed the rules on how leaders are decided. Originally it was thought of as a way to get the public to choose a right wing candidate and then they were shocked to find that people who wanted to vote Labour wanted left wing politics. They've been making GBS threads the bed ever since.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:36
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jabby posted:This is it guys. Night of the long knives for Corbyn is officially a go, and Benn is the instigator. This is getting tiresome. I'm surprised he just hasn't snapped and forced a purge or something.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:37
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Didn't his party vote the highest to remain?
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Jun 25, 2016 22:38
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Pissflaps posted:Yep. Corbyn needs to step down for this to work. For what to work, flaps?
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Jun 25, 2016 22:38
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thespaceinvader posted:For what to work, flaps? His penis.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:38
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Hollismason posted:Didn't his party vote the highest to remain? Liberals were higher but I'm not sure if they count as a party at this point, and about the only belief they have that they didn't compromise in government is being pro-Europe.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:39
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Hollismason posted:Didn't his party vote the highest to remain? No, the Greens voted higher, as did the Lib Dems. But of the two largest parties in the UK, one voted along the lines its leader set out, and the other voted against its leader. No prizes for guessing which leader is being knifed by his own parliamentary party as a result. Both, of course thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 22:39
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How does the coup actually work though? Like if they pass a no confidence vote, does it go to the same system as last time and if so, do all the candidates need to get a certain number of MPs to back them again? Because in that scenario, the PLP will just make sure to not nominate any token lefties.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:41
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thespaceinvader posted:For what to work, flaps? For a new Labour leader to be chosen.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:42
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Pissflaps posted:Yep. Corbyn needs to step down for this to work. I'd agree if there was anyone to replace him with, as there isn't If Labour coups Corbyn now they're done for good. The tories are in total loving shambles moreso than I've ever seen in my life and we have a leader who is anti-establishment and is the only one who isn't making GBS threads himself at the Brexit result. I won't even enjoy it when they oust him then find out nobody loving wants to vote for Danczuk or Benn and go up in smoke because I already got a reluctant schadenfreude overdose on Thursday. Corbs is a bit crap but with a united Labour party behind him and a decent message he would have a good chance of winning.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:42
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UrbicaMortis posted:How does the coup actually work though? Like if they pass a no confidence vote, does it go to the same system as last time and if so, do all the candidates need to get a certain number of MPs to back them again? The Blairites say yes, apparently this would not stand up to a legal challenge (and indeed would certainly cause the party to self-destruct - Corbyn remains very popular within Labour party members)
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Jun 25, 2016 22:44
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forkboy84 posted:He campaigned loads. Just because the press didn't cover it because he's not exciting doesn't mean it didn't happen. (disclaimer because I know how the UKMT works - this is a conversation about the Labour party and their voters, it goes without saying that the Leave campaign take far far more of the blame than anyone on the Remain side, but I already know full well whether or not they should be leading anything)
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Jun 25, 2016 22:45
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UrbicaMortis posted:How does the coup actually work though? Like if they pass a no confidence vote, does it go to the same system as last time and if so, do all the candidates need to get a certain number of MPs to back them again? Because in that scenario, the PLP will just make sure to not nominate any token lefties. It doesn't. Either it loving fails, in which case they face little consequence until the next GE, or it succeeds and either a leftie is nominated and wins in a landslide, or they block the leftie candidate and murder their own party as a result. They are morons.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:45
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https://twitter.com/hazmatt72/status/746711783713415169 lmao kendall's campaign had something more cringeworthy than kendall herself
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Jun 25, 2016 22:45
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knickers with a twist?
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Jun 25, 2016 22:46
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So I guess the Labour Party is looking at the Conservatives completely imploding and is thinking "hey, we want in on that fun"
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Jun 25, 2016 22:46
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Tesseraction posted:https://twitter.com/hazmatt72/status/746711783713415169 Don't dox me.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:47
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Hoops posted:I don't care about Corbyn's suits or anything about what he does with his cabinet, and I certainly don't give a gently caress about PMQs, but the Labour leadership dodged this whole referendum when they should have been convincing their base of the positives of the EU. He succeeded. The failure was from the Tory party, which is unsurprising given that the referendum was basically a leadership contest for the Conservatives. Just as the Tory party tore themselves apart publicly and split into two camps, so did their supporters who split roughly 50/50 between voting to leave and remain. Corbyn managed to get the majority of Labour supporters to vote remain, as did the SNP/LibDems/Greens.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:47
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JT Jag posted:So I guess the Labour Party is looking at the Conservatives completely imploding and is thinking "hey, we want in on that fun" I swear the SNP is the only political party not falling into complete dysfunction.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:48
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I thought that Corbyn was something close to the only loving rational political player you had left in the country or sth. Is there a chance that this "coup" works? What instigated it?
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Dante80 posted:Is there a chance that this "coup" works? What instigated it? Corbyn being poo poo.
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Jun 25, 2016 22:49
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