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FAUXTON posted:How often did your guys up and return daggers to the master of arms or the quartermaster or whoever? now, in the cavalry, I have a muster roll full of arquebusiers zu pferd who need to get new guns and in one case a bandolier, and in the margins next to their names, in the tiniest, most delicate writing, it says "Soll anderer röhre schaffen" (to get or arrange), so it's possible the light cav was expected to also handle their own carbines. But the notes may also have been intended for the quartermasters, so... HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Historically wouldn't the ancient dyes have faded quickly with weather and travel, and everyone on campaign ends up wearing faded grey or brown? That was something said about even the Napoleonic era uniforms, they may have been intended to look bright red or green when they left the mill but mostly just looked grey or brown after some wear. No. Scots were known to wear saffron yellow tunics, and that is a bright yellow. Maybe they dyed them frequently (though that seems implausible), maybe they used a dye or mordant lost to us. Indigo blues were prized because of their light fastness, and madder red is also very good. Edit: the transition from wool to cotton also doesn't help. Wool holds color much better. Rodrigo Diaz fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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it depends on the dye, my logwood reenacting jacket has been losing color like gently caress but my pants, which were dyed with walnut hulls, are only somewhat faded i look like poo poo, but at least i look like authentic poo poo lol edit: also you're not supposed to wash your outer clothing ever, so the turned back cuffs of my jacket that used to be white linen...aren't HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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HEY GAL posted:i look like poo poo, but at least i look like authentic poo poo lol That's not because of the dye
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:That's not because of the dye
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HEY GAL posted:the weapons are in perfect working order though, come try me and see I'll just yell "I think your dagger is too long!" and gub you while you're inspecting it.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I'll just yell "I think your dagger is too long!" and gub you while you're inspecting it.
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HEY GAL posted:Stabbed In The Kneecaps By My Own Anxiety About Swords: Chuck Tingle Presents: The Hegel Story JK Rowling would buy it https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/746989084741083138 vvv Writing the first day on the Somme now. I'm just crossing the Albert-Bapaume road. You ain't seen nothing yet. vvv Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Disinterested posted:Because they fight wars constantly against people with all kinds of designs, and experience a great deal of trial and error? It's kinda extremely uncool to think about how the however many percent of changes to armor design that weren't about "how cheap can we make this" were about "oh wow a lot of guys are getting their (body part) hosed up, can we do something about that". I appreciated the dye talk, I've wondered a couple times in GoT to what degree things being this brown was historical, or how we imagine the period, or an attempt to create a specific atmosphere for places for viewer orientation sake. I seem to recall that there are these fads in computer games where the graphics design swerves from technicolor and garish to "throw a brown filter over everything to make it gritty" and back. Also man, that latest WW1 update was horrible.
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Ulrich Von Hohensax wore only the best: (At the Zürich museum) Are there any cool military history museums around Munich?
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aphid_licker posted:It's kinda extremely uncool to think about how the however many percent of changes to armor design that weren't about "how cheap can we make this" were about "oh wow a lot of guys are getting their (body part) hosed up, can we do something about that". Don't worry, that's actually really common. Among other things how do you think we figured out how to run a carrier as a warship?
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FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:Ulrich Von Hohensax wore only the best: They really liked emphasizing the D...
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Armyman25 posted:They really liked emphasizing the D... thrusting weapons are very important during the time period
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quote:The morning of 28 May, the Enterprise disembarked her aviators and prepared to get under way. The flyers checked in at the Ford Island field; then those off duty spent a pleasant interlude around the pool. Meanwhile their Hornet counterparts smarted under their enforced isolation at Ewa. Moreover, their separation from the bars of Honolulu had not dampened their enthusiasm for drinking. In the officer's club the pilots of Torpedo Eight concocted a drink known as the "Barber's Point cocktail," and it was deadly. Shortly after sunrise on 28 May, VT-8's skipper, John Waldron, tenderly woke his charges (and likely the rest of the base) by firing a full magazine from his .45-caliber pistol out through the barracks door. War. War never changes.
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Armyman25 posted:They really liked emphasizing the D... He and Henry VIII would have been good friends
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FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:Are there any cool military history museums around Munich? The Deutsches Museum has the original German U-boat in the basement. It's worth visiting for that alone.
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crosspostingHEY GAL posted:so, as of the late 19th century at least one spaniard was not only still duelling with goddamn sail-hilted left-hand daggers, but he or she commissioned at least two of them with 21 inch long blades that might have been adapted from a model 1886 French Lebel bayonet.
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Ainsley McTree posted:He and Henry VIII would have been good friends Is that a loving coat of arms on his codpiece? Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:The Deutsches Museum has the original German U-boat in the basement. It's worth visiting for that alone. As of when I was there in May it and most of the other cool poo poo was in storage. This wasn't mentioned on the website and I was super disappointed. Really not worth it right now. Highly disagree with recommending it. They did have an honest to gently caress Enigma though and that was pretty cool. (I never posted pics because it was lame and I'm the worst photographer ever.)
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Hazzard posted:Is there any technological link to helmets? Like, could Rome have hypothetically invented the morion and then that be the standard helmet instead of the Gallic Helm? Absolutely. I don't know if there was any technological reason Roman's couldn't have produced helmets that looked like the Morion, but technology of the era did constrain the form of armor like helmets. Interestingly the gallic or Imperial helmets were replaced by Ridge helmets sometime around Diocletian's reforms of the army and economy. The bowl of these helmets were made from two to four strips of metal riveted together rather than the single piece as in the Gallic designs, a change that simplified production and made them ideal for the new imperial factories which supplied the late Roman military, though I doubt rivets were great for their structural integrity. Also I definitely remember reading that the Moro armor is based on equipment brought by Muslim traders from India/Persia, EXCEPT for the helmets, which coincidentally are derived from Spanish crested morions.
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Ainsley McTree posted:He and Henry VIII would have been good friends They could sword fight!
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Xiahou Dun posted:As of when I was there in May it and most of the other cool poo poo was in storage. That's... disappointing.
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aphid_licker posted:I appreciated the dye talk, I've wondered a couple times in GoT to what degree things being this brown was historical, or how we imagine the period, or an attempt to create a specific atmosphere for places for viewer orientation sake. I seem to recall that there are these fads in computer games where the graphics design swerves from technicolor and garish to "throw a brown filter over everything to make it gritty" and back. Yeah I was gonna say I think that's in our culture not theirs. Sometime in the 90s i think the Prince of Thieves aesthetic parts ways with the Men in Tights one, and maybe that mirrors larger changes in the culture where like grunge bands and gangster rappers are wearing street clothes on stage instead of the oddly landsknechtisch costumes of the glam era. Game of Thrones isn't set in a real time or place anyway, it's 100% about how we imagine that stuff relative to ourselves
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:That's... disappointing. There were a couple reproduction planes that were okay I guess? (Most were mothballed but they had some WWI era stuff ; my uncle, who's a pilot, was super disappointed. ) They also have a mining exhibit that might look cool but goes on way too long. Like Mines of Moria O gently caress How Am I Not Done Yet long. Same uncle and me ended up abandoning everyone else and speed-walking the rest after 20+ minutes (that still took most of an hour! gently caress!), shouting in German, "It's a loving hole! We got it! You dug a thing! gently caress!" And I didn't even mention waiting an hour in the rain to get it. Seriously. Don't go until they finish construction. gently caress.
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The style of armor with plates suspended in mail is called mirror armor .
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EvanSchenck posted:Previously I've seen some analysis of Game of Thrones costuming and such, it's kind of interesting. For example, Stannis Baratheon wore this armor: This is a pretty drat good concept now, just looking at the design of fantasy armour and guessing a)what inspired it and b)would it hold up to ~real life~. I'd happily read more about these covering weapons and armour now.
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I just hope Landskechts become the hot new thing. It'll just take one groundbreaking HBO show to get the ball rolling...
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swamp waste posted:Yeah I was gonna say I think that's in our culture not theirs.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I just hope Landskechts become the hot new thing. It'll just take one groundbreaking HBO show to get the ball rolling... If they made a 1632 tv series and you'll get your wish. muahauhah
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Chillyrabbit posted:If they made a 1632 tv series and you'll get your wish. muahauhah God, I wish HBO would. I'd be happy with a TL-191 miniseries too.
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Armyman25 posted:They really liked emphasizing the D... This reminds me as a kid when the '89 Batman came out, wondering why he had a big rear end target on his chest, and it was brought up that that was where his only armor was, which made sense. This is like, at minimum, asking for severe cock and or ball trauma, even if that poo poo that passed for spandex then was some kind of space age liquid Kevlar sci-fi material (what was it, anyway? And did people actually fight like that? Was it just for dueling, and cock bustin' was un-gentlemanly?). Also, that Henry VIII armor is really fuckin baller (heh), I've heard he was actually pretty athletic in his youth, but am only really familiar with the famous portrait of him looking like J. Edgar Hoover on a day off.
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This response is very mysterious to me but lol
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Xiahou Dun posted:As of when I was there in May it and most of the other cool poo poo was in storage. Super secret Pensacola, Florida location of Corry Station Navy base has a Intelligence museum with a Japanese-German Enigma machine and a German Enigma machine. You do need a military ID or a friend with one to get on base but it's open 9-5. Good luck finding it. Has some odd items. Also has art that's still topical to this day. Crab Dad fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Bulgaroctonus posted:This reminds me as a kid when the '89 Batman came out, wondering why he had a big rear end target on his chest, and it was brought up that that was where his only armor was, which made sense. This is like, at minimum, asking for severe cock and or ball trauma, even if that poo poo that passed for spandex then was some kind of space age liquid Kevlar sci-fi material (what was it, anyway? And did people actually fight like that? Was it just for dueling, and cock bustin' was un-gentlemanly?). Also, that Henry VIII armor is really fuckin baller (heh), I've heard he was actually pretty athletic in his youth, but am only really familiar with the famous portrait of him looking like J. Edgar Hoover on a day off. it isn't skintight, there's a lot of fabric between the other guy's fist/sword/knife and your dilz edit: if the codpiece is big enough and you're not carrying a purse, that's where the pocket change goes edit 2: While I was looking around for more art by the art guy featured in that article, I found this. Remember when we were wondering about padded jerkins and mail in the early modern period? Check out this stylish, and well-protected, fellow: And imagine the life he leads, where "I need body armor for daily wear but the ribbons on it should also match the feathers on my tiny, jauntily-tilted hat" is an important life consideration. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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The crest on his helmet is obscenely fabulous as well. It's got what looks like a whole ostrich up there.
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i do not remember which goon called these people irresponsibly rad but it's one of the best descriptions for 16th and 17th century people I've heard reminder that this woman existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_d%27Aubigny edit: the 16th and 17th centuries sucked, but the people owned as hell HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:As of when I was there in May it and most of the other cool poo poo was in storage. Bletchley Park has one of those (actually several I think) and a poo poo-ton of other cool stuff (also the National Museum of Computing) if you're into nerdy stuff.
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Can someone explain how in 1810 the Swedes decided to elect a French general to be their crown prince? What sort of moon logic was involved there?
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HEY GAL posted:i do not remember which goon called these people irresponsibly rad but it's one of the best descriptions for 16th and 17th century people I've heard Sounds like a me thing to say. Did you catch that bit I quoted a few posts back about a WWII carrier bomber pilot getting hammered and firing a whole magazine out the door, incidentally? Some things just don't change.
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xthetenth posted:Sounds like a me thing to say. Did you catch that bit I quoted a few posts back about a WWII carrier bomber pilot getting hammered and firing a whole magazine out the door, incidentally? Some things just don't change.
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