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thathonkey posted:is it fair to say that the brexit was a huge own-goal in footballer terms? I'm still confused why David Cameron even put the vote on the table.
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thathonkey posted:is it fair to say that the brexit was a huge own-goal in footballer terms? its more like if the UK shaolin soccer'd the ball through the goal, through the net, and beheaded a EU banker torturing a greek child
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Jun 26, 2016 14:39
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Man Whore posted:lookee here boys, looks like we got our selves a neo-liberal. The people who'd want to put me against the wall or in a 'tine would have to build one first and get organized, and that would require them to temporarily log off and leave the house so I'm not too worried.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:41
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Archer666 posted:
More critically it requires that Cameron isn't a self serving oval office who just wants to get on the lucrative after dinner speaker circuit ASAP. He would've had to have gone with this result regardless. We have to lie in this bed now, lest we forgo democracy completely.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:42
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Lichy posted:nothing would happen mate at the very least it would cause a large and openly fascist movement to start and would encourage similar parties in France and Germany who are already pressuring their governments for a referendum. Also using a questionably legal technique to overrule a democratic decision wouldn't do much to reverse the damage done to the economy, people would still be looking for the exit. etalian posted:I'm still confused why David Cameron even put the vote on the table. the tory party has a bunch of crazy backbenchers for whom Brexit was 100% of their reason for getting up in the morning. Cameron is a slick neoliberal type conservative who likes the EU for business reasons. He threw them a bone hoping it would shut them up because he assumed he'd only get into government again in a coalition, and their coalition partner would torpedo the referendum. Unfortunately he won the last election because labour were running some kind of experimental politics mutant against him, but he didn't win by enough that he'd be able to tell his backbenchers to just gently caress off. He called the referendum, hosed up the campaign and the rest is happening.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:43
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:the tory party has a bunch of crazy backbenchers for whom Brexit was 100% of their reason for getting up in the morning. Cameron is a slick neoliberal type conservative who likes the EU for business reasons. He threw them a bone hoping it would shut them up because he assumed he'd only get into government again in a coalition, and their coalition partner would torpedo the referendum. Unfortunately he won the last election because labour were running some kind of experimental politics mutant against him, but he didn't win by enough that he'd be able to tell his backbenchers to just gently caress off. He called the referendum, hosed up the campaign and the rest is happening. So he pushed the option since it had a unlikely chance in his mind of a leave vote winning and got burned as a result. Also for news from the center, looks the shadow cabinet had a mass resignation this morning: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/26/brexit-live-jeremy-corbyn-sacks-hilary-benn-tory-leadership
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Jun 26, 2016 14:45
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:the tory party has a bunch of crazy backbenchers for whom Brexit was 100% of their reason for getting up in the morning. Cameron is a slick neoliberal type conservative who likes the EU for business reasons. He threw them a bone hoping it would shut them up because he assumed he'd only get into government again in a coalition, and their coalition partner would torpedo the referendum. Unfortunately he won the last election because labour were running some kind of experimental politics mutant against him, but he didn't win by enough that he'd be able to tell his backbenchers to just gently caress off. He called the referendum, hosed up the campaign and the rest is happening.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:47
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I wish Corbyn would just do the decent thing and gently caress off
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Jun 26, 2016 14:48
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itt shills who clamor for more Tony Blairs in politics.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:50
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Crewmine posted:I wish Corbyn would just do the decent thing and gently caress off Even if he resigned, who would replace him? Benn has ruled himself out, and nobody else springs to mind.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:52
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Durzel posted:We have to lie in this bed now, lest we forgo democracy completely. Yes and I think that's the point it's making. Following through with it will mean political and economic suicide but so will all the other options. All roads lead to the same final destination.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:53
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Plucky Brit posted:Even if he resigned, who would replace him? Benn has ruled himself out, and nobody else springs to mind. Third time's the charm for Burnham but the gormless looking bastard's not making a move
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Jun 26, 2016 14:55
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the labor party ran an almost-lefty and tried to slowly shame him into a neolib through public conversion therapy; it worked but noone wanted to vote for it the entire New Labor (neoliberals) is so charismatically bankrupt that an actual leftist won their leadership contest with a crazy % of the vote (despite immense rigging)
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Jun 26, 2016 14:55
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tminz posted:Yes and I think that's the point it's making. Following through with it will mean political and economic suicide but so will all the other options. All roads lead to the same final destination. If they had any brains they could just use the vote to neg the referendum. Some shrieking euros across the channels say they want maximum punishment for leaving but other leaders such as Merkel said they should try to reform the EU to get the UK back.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:55
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I was going through a catalog of tweets and anecdotes about UK racism that's been exploding since the vote a few days ago and it's pretty drat bad there and the way things are going it's just a matter of time until we see a straight up murder This one made me laugh though https://twitter.com/TheBuddhaSmiled/status/746453668774481920 Rich (and globally mobile, apparently) banker parasite is aggrieved by a homeless person??? Impermissible.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:56
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etalian posted:itt shills who clamor for more Tony Blairs in politics. well it's a pity that there are precisely two types of Labour politicians, slick Tony Blair types and unelectable Guardian-reader parodies, but what can you do!
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Jun 26, 2016 14:59
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Hammerite posted:well it's a pity that there are precisely two types of Labour politicians, slick Tony Blair types and unelectable Guardian-reader parodies, but what can you do! guardian readers hate Corbyn he's an actual leftist though
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Jun 26, 2016 15:00
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Brannock posted:I was going through a catalog of tweets and anecdotes about UK racism that's been exploding since the vote a few days ago and it's pretty drat bad there and the way things are going it's just a matter of time until we see a straight up murder i didn't move to britain to have one of the peasants talk back to me, how dare he
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Jun 26, 2016 15:01
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Brannock posted:I was going through a catalog of tweets and anecdotes about UK racism that's been exploding since the vote a few days ago and it's pretty drat bad there and the way things are going it's just a matter of time until we see a straight up murder Are you sure this tweet didn't come from SF?
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Jun 26, 2016 15:02
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YOU STOLE MY FUTURE, GRANDPA!     *is one of the 64% aged 18-24 who couldn't get their rear end off the sofa*
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Jun 26, 2016 15:03
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Brannock posted:I was going through a catalog of tweets and anecdotes about UK racism that's been exploding since the vote a few days ago and it's pretty drat bad there and the way things are going it's just a matter of time until we see a straight up murder hang all bankers imo
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Jun 26, 2016 15:03
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:guardian readers hate Corbyn who cares? The point is he's what small-c-conservative England thinks of as a sandal-wearing guardian-reader type, which is why he'd never get elected
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Jun 26, 2016 15:05
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Hammerite posted:who cares? The point is he's what small-c-conservative England thinks of as a sandal-wearing guardian-reader type, which is why he'd never get elected you mean a sandal with socks guardian reader?
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Jun 26, 2016 15:07
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What does it mean that the Shadow Cabinet is resigning ? Is the Government finally going to be ruled in the open instead of in the "shadows" ? ? Are the people resigning the US version of Democrats or Republicans ???
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Jun 26, 2016 15:10
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Decebal posted:What does it mean that the Shadow Cabinet is resigning ? Is the Government finally going to be ruled in the open instead of in the "shadows" ? ? essentially the shadow cabinet is who the opposition plan to have as their cabinet the next time they win so in this instance it's Labour
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Jun 26, 2016 15:12
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they don't do anything other than complain about what the actual cabinet is doing so them resigning has no immediate effect on anything and is just an amusing marker of how mad everyone in labour is at jeremy corbyn
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Jun 26, 2016 15:13
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cock hero flux posted:they don't do anything other than complain about what the actual cabinet is doing so them resigning has no immediate effect on anything and is just an amusing marker of how mad everyone in labour is at jeremy corbyn it sounds cool af though
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Jun 26, 2016 15:15
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Brannock posted:I was going through a catalog of tweets and anecdotes about UK racism that's been exploding since the vote a few days ago and it's pretty drat bad there and the way things are going it's just a matter of time until we see a straight up murder
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Jun 26, 2016 15:17
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The fact that Labour has decided to turn on itself, instead of attacking the conservatives who have either resigned or apparently fallen off the face of the earth is loving baffling to me. Let them resign, they'll be deselected by the labour members in no time.
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Jun 26, 2016 15:17
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:it sounds cool af though it sounds way more badass than it has any right to since it's actually the Cabinet of Big Losers who don't get to do anything
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Jun 26, 2016 15:18
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etalian posted:Are you sure this tweet didn't come from SF?
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Jun 26, 2016 15:19
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Supernorn posted:The fact that Labour has decided to turn on itself, instead of attacking the conservatives who have either resigned or apparently fallen off the face of the earth is loving baffling to me. Let them resign, they'll be deselected by the labour members in no time. thats what the left does best
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Jun 26, 2016 15:19
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Dicky B posted:the inevitable result of political correctness - you tell people "you can't say that in public" and so they just say it in private instead. all their lovely racist thoughts go completely unchallenged for years and then something like brexit happens and it's like a valve being opened I'm sure the secretly racist homeless guy was just waiting for the politically opportune moment.
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Jun 26, 2016 15:21
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The whole shadow cabinet system is stupid because they pretty much have to argue against any point the actual minister is making which, in the event of the minister talking sense, makes the opposition look ridiculous.
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Jun 26, 2016 15:22
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Hogge Wild posted:thats what the left does best Tbf the left managed to unite p much unanimously against neolib members. its just that there are a lot of neolib politicians who would rather never see power than let leftists retake Labour
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Jun 26, 2016 15:23
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Supernorn posted:The fact that Labour has decided to turn on itself, instead of attacking the conservatives who have either resigned or apparently fallen off the face of the earth is loving baffling to me. Let them resign, they'll be deselected by the labour members in no time. it's hilarious because both parties campaigned against Leave and lost so they're now tearing themselves apart to find who to blame for this poo poo that and corbyn was a secret leave sympathizer who fought the most lackluster remain campaign possible and is now stubbornly refusing requests from his party for his own head on a spike
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Supernorn posted:The fact that Labour has decided to turn on itself, instead of attacking the conservatives who have either resigned or apparently fallen off the face of the earth is loving baffling to me. Let them resign, they'll be deselected by the labour members in no time. They've been turning on themselves for months.
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Dicky B posted:the inevitable result of political correctness - you tell people "you can't say that in public" and so they just say it in private instead. all their lovely racist thoughts go completely unchallenged for years and then something like brexit happens and it's like a valve being opened yes crazy homeless men never say anything racist unless the political tides have turned and we're on our way to full blown fascism
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Jun 26, 2016 15:24
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opus111 posted:The whole shadow cabinet system is stupid because they pretty much have to argue against any point the actual minister is making which, in the event of the minister talking sense, makes the opposition look ridiculous. This is the problem with a divided party system in general. Nobody cooperates on good things because they want to get credit for good thing
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emoji posted:I'm sure the secretly racist homeless guy was just waiting for the politically opportune moment.
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