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pthighs posted:It's very feasible to invade mainland Japan in this game as the Allies. Usually the northernmost island. The AI On the bright side, those US tanks aren't nearly as good as they could be. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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LOL pthighs, thanks for that. "Japanese forces have CAPTURED San Francisco !!!"
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Jun 25, 2016 01:18
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In an alternate history, that stunt probably gets Tokyo nuked come 1945~
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Jun 25, 2016 02:21
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what happens if you land in LA? Do you really destroy all the airplane factories?
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i81icu812 posted:what happens if you land in LA? Do you really destroy all the airplane factories? Yes. Aircraft factories lose their production and switch to generic aircraft factories for the Japanese. However, if the allies re-capture the factories, they all are converted to vehicle factories (which don't do anything for the allies). In any case, Japanese capture of Allied aircraft factories destroys that aircraft production for the allies for good, leaving them with only the replacement rate for that airframe.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:16
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I get the general principle of an invasion of mainland US prompts America to massively mobilize... but where are all those tanks and poo poo supposed to have come from, overnight? Did the US really have several hundred combat-ready tanks stockpiled just in case the Japanese invaded?
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Leperflesh posted:I get the general principle of an invasion of mainland US prompts America to massively mobilize... but where are all those tanks and poo poo supposed to have come from, overnight? Did the US really have several hundred combat-ready tanks stockpiled just in case the Japanese invaded? Yes, they'd been shipping hundreds of M3's to the British for months.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:48
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I recently read a Patton biography, and I forget the exact dates, but we had several armored divisions training up in the years leading up to Operation Torch. I'm assuming these would be the guys to respond to something crazy like that.
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Jun 25, 2016 04:59
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Leperflesh posted:I get the general principle of an invasion of mainland US prompts America to massively mobilize... but where are all those tanks and poo poo supposed to have come from, overnight? Did the US really have several hundred combat-ready tanks stockpiled just in case the Japanese invaded? US production of war materiel outpaced their ability to ship it to Europe, so I imagine there were parking lots of tanks waiting to be loaded at any given time
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Jun 25, 2016 05:40
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Huh. Well OK then. e. I wonder if you could concievably land enough troops to take LA in one turn, trash the factories, and then load them right back up and escape before they get killed by the doom stacks? Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 06:09
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So, here's a question then - would it be worth it to do something really gamey like landing a very token force of troops in SF just to ruin their aircraft factories?
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Jun 25, 2016 06:58
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LA, not SF. All the aircraft factories were in Burbank and City of Industry.
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Jun 25, 2016 07:07
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Burbank's a good way into the valley. YOU WON'T LAST 48 HOURS IN THE VALLEY SON
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Jun 25, 2016 08:01
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   What was supposed to be reinforcements becomes the next landing – and we are into India now!   Enemy cruisers still patrol the Java sea.   Crossing into India is a big thing, even if it is just Cox's Bazaar.  I didn't see anything take a bomb today. Air support should be in place tomorrow.
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Jun 25, 2016 17:42
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Grey Hunter posted:What was supposed to be reinforcements becomes the next landing – and we are into India now! I think it was discussed in the thread already, but are there any events for Azad Hind/the INA once you reach India?
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Jun 25, 2016 19:45
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I hope those ships are at least beaching themselves entertainingly rather than sinking.
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tunapirate posted:I think it was discussed in the thread already, but are there any events for Azad Hind/the INA once you reach India? Not exactly, but the INA / Azad Hind and other Indian rebel groups are represented in a way. If memory serves, the Allies (well, British) have to garrison major cities and positions in India, much like the Japanese have to garrison the Russian border. The difference is that if the British don't or can't, the key locations start taking damage to represent guerrilla action. (I don't remember how this damage is modeled, and would ask someone more experience with the game go over the fine details). Now that in particular isn't changed by a Japanese invasion, but consider that (notionally) rear-line locations may be stripped of defenders to go and reinforce the front line and thus enable attacks and damage, our invasion might assist them indirectly.
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Serpentis posted:Not exactly, but the INA / Azad Hind and other Indian rebel groups are represented in a way. If memory serves, the Allies (well, British) have to garrison major cities and positions in India, much like the Japanese have to garrison the Russian border. The difference is that if the British don't or can't, the key locations start taking damage to represent guerrilla action. (I don't remember how this damage is modeled, and would ask someone more experience with the game go over the fine details). For both Japan and the UK, all the important cities in China and India, respectively, have a garrison requirement number - if it isn't met, the town will periodically experience partisan attacks which damage facilities, and perhaps more importantly, delete a handful of victory points. Still, in the short term insurgency can't really lead to anything drastic. No insurgent military units will appear, and there will be only moderate damage to industry at best (and the Allies don't really need on-map industry). Plus the garrison targets are really low IIRC. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 22:50
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   Erm, Guys. They are landing troops in the Home Islands. In 1942!  This will not stand!  We take more hits unloaded the troops at Cox's Bazaar.  As promised, we have CAP!  Unfortunately its not a massive one. They quickly run out of ammo. But maybe it will be a deterrent.  The base itself last five minutes.  I switch tactics and hit the Javan airfield.  So, a good day, except the AI seems to be playing by my rules and has launched an early invasion of the Kurile Islands.  This is as far north as the ships go without air support.
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Jun 26, 2016 17:35
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The Doolittle raid was a bit grander scope in this timeline.
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Jun 26, 2016 17:38
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Welp. Crush them grey.
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Jun 26, 2016 17:39
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Now, that I hadn't expected.
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Jun 26, 2016 17:42
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Christ, Lysanders. Did they even have guns?
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goatface posted:Christ, Lysanders. Did they even have guns? Wiki say a pair of .303 in the wheel pants and a Vickers gun out the rear cockpit.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:03
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pthighs posted:The Doolittle raid was a bit grander scope in this timeline. That's one way to distract Imperial attention and resources, assuming it doesn't turn into a reverse "Hey, let's invade and occupy the Aleutian islands!"
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Jun 26, 2016 18:10
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Does invading those islands unlock kamikazes for grey?
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goatface posted:Christ, Lysanders. Did they even have guns? Offensive and Defensive guns!
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Donkringel posted:Does invading those islands unlock kamikazes for grey? No, it's too early and that's too far out.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:42
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Wow. Much respect, AI!
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Grey Hunter posted:
I'm excited for Eniwe-two-k; this time the defenders will start with J-Rations!
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Jun 26, 2016 19:51
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Did the Russians claim the Kuriles at this point in history?
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Jun 26, 2016 19:59
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goatface posted:Did the Russians claim the Kuriles at this point in history? Russia and Japan had resolved their territorial dispute at this point in time. The Soviet Union didn't unilaterally annex the entirety of the Kuriles until after WW2. And who says scripted AI games are boring?
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Donkringel posted:Does invading those islands unlock kamikazes for grey? Invading that close to the home islands, though, should spawn a bunch of free divisions for the Japanese.
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RZApublican posted:Invading that close to the home islands, though, should spawn a bunch of free divisions for the Japanese. So the most effective, albeit gamey, tactic is to clear the way if you see that coming?
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Peanut3141 posted:So the most effective, albeit gamey, tactic is to clear the way if you see that coming? Worked for FDR 
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Ardeem posted:Wiki say a pair of .303 in the wheel pants and a Vickers gun out the rear cockpit. They could also carry 4x60 pound and/or 2x500 pound bombs, IIRC. Not what they were designed for, but they could act as light bombers.
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Jun 27, 2016 04:15
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How's Singapore coming along?
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Jun 27, 2016 04:36
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Reuben Sandwich posted:How's Singapore coming along? He captured it some time ago.  6 days ago Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Jun 27, 2016 04:38
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Man, torpedoing almost every CV in the British fleet, while simultaneously failing to finish off the Dutch East Indies makes me worry for our English winner of WW2. He's simultaneously behind schedule on huge parts, while ahead of schedule on others. I'm going to be impressed if 1944 isn't a huge beat down. Keep on keeping on Grey.
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Hurry up and use some Ainu mercenaries on these demons! Speaking of northern islands, wasn't Attu captured in this campaign? I saw part of the Aleuts in Japanese territory on the big map last time if I'm not wrong.
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