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Okay there are too many good ones so what I'm going to do is put a poll for the best title for two days and then ask a moderator to change the title once it's finished. Fair enough?Angepain posted:False alarm everyone, Boris knows what the Scots want  We are screwed!
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Yeah he seems like hes got his finger on our pulse. Probably spent entire minutes googling.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747183565134266368 https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747186358771453953 Surprised at how low these are tbh.
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Pissflaps posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/747183565134266368 I just realised that the support for Scottish Indy is higher then having a Scottish Indy Ref 
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Jun 26, 2016 23:02
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Well it's basically somebody saying 'yes i want independence, but not right now'. Which is reasonable. This is fascinating, apparently the SNP has the highest proportion of Leave voters in Scotland.... https://twitter.com/AidanKerrPol/status/747186257483149312 Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Jun 26, 2016 23:07
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Pissflaps posted:Well it's basically somebody saying 'yes i want independence, but not right now'. Which is reasonable. I suppose though I wonder why that is. Do they think it's because it's too early to assume that it's a certain EU-exit or is it something else I'm not noticing? Pissflaps posted:This is fascinating, apparently the SNP has the highest proportion of Leave voters in Scotland.... Please don't tell me that's because they all thought they get another referendum if they vote leave. 
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Jun 26, 2016 23:15
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Extreme0 posted:I suppose though I wonder why that is. Do they think it's because it's too early to assume that it's a certain EU-exit or is it something else I'm not noticing? Maybe. Maybe economic pragmatists who see Independence as a goal that's currently not worth the economic price. quote:Please don't tell me that's because they all thought they get another referendum if they vote leave. Possibly some but, as discussed earlier, I think it's more likely a feeling that they won't want to become free from Westminster only to immediately give up power to Brussels. That's why I think having EU membership at the heart of a Scottish independence campaign may not produce the desired effect.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:18
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Pissflaps posted:Well it's basically somebody saying 'yes i want independence, but not right now'. Which is reasonable. All those percentages claim more voters for Remain than the national average.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:22
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Pissflaps posted:That's why I think having EU membership at the heart of a Scottish independence campaign may not produce the desired effect. A few things might cancel this out. If the more Europhile Labour and Lib Dem voters start considering independence, for example, or if the eurosceptic SNP voters decide that they want to be out of Britain even more than they want to be out of Europe, or if Britain's Brexit negotiations go sour and a life outside the EU starts looking less rosy. I'd be interested to see how Green voters split, which I imagine is excluded due to the sample size or by asking about constituency votes only. I'd guess quite strongly to Remain but there might have been a few Lexit true-believers gathered in there too.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:23
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Jedit posted:All those percentages claim more voters for Remain than the national average. Embarrassed Leave voters? If full Brexit happens you won't be able to find anyone in five years outside an EDL meeting who will admit to having voted for it.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:23
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The Record is fair changing its tune: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indy-ref-2-poll-says-8289832#HEDWQ66Vl75FX1bk.97
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Jun 26, 2016 23:36
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Pissflaps posted:
That might actually be a good thing though, a lot (not all but I would assume a sizeable majority) of the leave voting SNP supporters will put wanting independence ahead of wanting to leave the EU. It's supporters of other parties that are going to be the hardest to convince about the merits of independence and it looks like the EU is a good place to start.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:43
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49/42 Y/N is lower than I would have thought this week. That's 54/46 excluding don't knows? I was expecting 60+/40- quite solidly.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:47
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Hoops posted:49/42 Y/N is lower than I would have thought this week. That's 54/46 excluding don't knows? I was expecting 60+/40- quite solidly. Same. I thought the jig was up on Friday. Not so sure now.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:48
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Hoops posted:49/42 Y/N is lower than I would have thought this week. That's 54/46 excluding don't knows? I was expecting 60+/40- quite solidly. Was the other poll not 59/41?
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Extreme0 posted:Please don't tell me that's because they all thought they get another referendum if they vote leave. It could again simply be because "gently caress off everyone who isn't [group I identify with]" is a perfectly normal nationalist position.
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Jun 27, 2016 06:23
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There's a new scotpol thread. Its not very good but I can close this one if anyones finding it confusing? Let me know please.
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Jun 27, 2016 12:21
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Even better, you could close this and actually link to the new thread!
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Jun 27, 2016 13:33
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It wouldn't feel right to endorse the new thread by linking to it. The op is full of inaccuracies and wishful thinking! Here's one, be sure to read to the end: Supportive JK Rowling - Wizard - Preety much wanted both the UK and the EU but she's starting to have second thoughts and is preety much just shocked and worried. I think she would be supportive of another referendum though not sure where she stands when it comes to Indepedence
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Jun 27, 2016 13:43
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I've found it now. Yeah, not the best written OP in the world.
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cargohills posted:I've found it now. Yeah, not the best written OP in the world. Tell me about it. And the thread title is crap as well.
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Jun 28, 2016 11:29
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I prefer this thread.
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Pissflaps posted:I prefer this thread. I think Scotpol would be content with you sticking in this thread while everyone else migrates to the new one if that helps.
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forkboy84 posted:I think Scotpol would be content with you sticking in this thread while everyone else migrates to the new one if that helps. I think you're mistaken, though it might spare your personal blushes if that happened.
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Jun 28, 2016 12:00
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 Vae victis!
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Jun 28, 2016 22:00
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Latest post-Brexit independence poll is 53/47 for No: http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN1092OI That's not what I was expecting, I would have guessed probably 55/45 to Yes.
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Jul 30, 2016 19:34
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Ah, memories
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Hoops posted:Latest post-Brexit independence poll is 53/47 for No: Brexit hasn't really started at all and the lagging economic indicators haven't reported yet. I think there's a sense of "oh nothing much seems to have changed what were we all so worried about" but I'd expect a serious change in those numbers if the Tories start to really gently caress it up and the pro-EU forces don't swing public opinion enough to make not leaving a politically viable option..
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Aug 15, 2016 20:18
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Somebody should really close one of these threads at some point. At least one.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:20
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Found a Corsican song about Scottish independence. Sterling Ridge by Vitalba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHLAELlbI-o
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The sitting Tory PM and the leader of the Scottish Tories both have higher net satisfaction ratings than Nicola Sturgeon among the Scottish electorate.  Alright, whoever it was that opened up the wormhole to the parallel universe, 'fess up now.
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I'm personally particularly interested in what being "leader of the XXXX party" entails.
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TomViolence posted:I'm personally particularly interested in what being "leader of the XXXX party" entails. The conferences are something else let me tell you
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TomViolence posted:I'm personally particularly interested in what being "leader of the XXXX party" entails.
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Don't you fuckin do it Scotland. Don't you do it.
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Vitamin P posted:Don't you fuckin do it Scotland. Don't you do it. It'll fail mate, don't worry. The Scottish people will choose the crushing misery & fascism of Brexit. It's in our blood
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Vitamin P posted:Don't you fuckin do it Scotland. Don't you do it. We already declared independence from this thread.
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Tough one for Scotland, caught between a rock and a hard place. No idea how I'm gonna vote on this, I spose I vote independence so I can remain an EU citizen and visit the rest of my family without getting visas or however all that poo poo will turn out. Its rough though, both options seem poo poo and the currency question is even harder this time. Controlling your own currency seems like its always the best option (look at how well its worked for Germany ) but the tories are doing their best to utterly destroy the british economy.
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I think Scotland will vote Yes and take the Euro. Which causes a lot of problems and makes the problems in the rest of the UK worse, but I think it'll be the plan that resonates with people.
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