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I know I said it earlier but I just don't like how The Ringer looks. The formatting and the layout.
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GobiasIndustries posted:The Ringer right now is an HBO surrogate with some hot takes and clickbait-level article titles mixed in. Beyond a few articles, everything I've read there has been very, very bad. Yeah actually I was bored late last night and read some stuff and all of it, even by writers I've previously enjoyed, was just very bad. Even the stuff that wasn't actively painful to read was just shallow as hell. I don't get what they're doing there but it doesn't involve taking writing seriously.
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Jun 23, 2016 12:29
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One of the local guys from here kind of got his breakout with the Ringer. I may be selling him short, he may have been writing on a wider scale more regularly before, but I remember him from team blogs. https://theringer.com/search?q=michael%20baumann His stuff's good, it has some insight that's more than just skin deep. The roundup articles are going to be necessarily shallower, it's 9 bullet points about general topics. You have to be going there for baseball articles to find him, though. I am noting that there is a link for "Sports" AND a link for "NBA" on the nav bar for them.
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Jun 23, 2016 14:28
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Baumann also wrote for Grantland, so yeah the Ringer isn't exactly a breakout for him.
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Jun 23, 2016 19:13
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He has a bigger role with The Ringer. He's taken over the Keri role as the main MLB writer and is honestly probably my favorite part of the ringer so far. The drop off on the NBA side from Zach Lowe to Tjarks or whatever the hell his name is has been pretty dramatic. The Ringer is clearly going for younger/less established/cheaper writers than Grantland was for the most part though and doesn't seem to be aiming for the same level of prestige.
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Jun 23, 2016 19:35
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The Tjarks hiring was a strange one, he was like the fourth-best basketball writer at SBNation and always seems kind of vanilla in general. It's hard to believe they couldn't pry away someone like Ziller or Prada that at least have more of a voice
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Jun 23, 2016 19:38
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I thought Danny Chau was the main guy, although it doesn't seem like any of him, Tjarks or netw3rk are going to write anything of Lowe's depth just yet. The whole thing launched as the Finals were starting, so I think the basketball stuff will take some time to get settled. What's Rafe Bartholomew up to these days?
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Jun 23, 2016 19:59
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If you have listened to any of Simmons' podcasts since leaving ESPN he has always highlighted how grantlands readership changed from the desktop to 65%+ mobile over the course of its lifespan, it's not surprising that it went more bite size and the articles aren't as meaty.
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Jun 24, 2016 01:19
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KFBR392 posted:If you have listened to any of Simmons' podcasts since leaving ESPN he has always highlighted how grantlands readership changed from the desktop to 65%+ mobile over the course of its lifespan, it's not surprising that it went more bite size and the articles aren't as meaty. Switching to mobile viewing is one thing, having poor articles and site design is another.
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Jun 24, 2016 01:43
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There's formating that's more easily read and mobile and there's content that's more easily digestible by your average reader when using a moble. They are different things and the former is a requirement (part of why he was pissed about grantland) while the latter is a business choice. I'm not a fan of it either but maybe I'm not the targeted reader.
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Jun 24, 2016 02:06
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howe_sam posted:Baumann also wrote for Grantland, so yeah the Ringer isn't exactly a breakout for him. I did know he wrote for Grantland (and he's published a book), I wasn't sure if he was a regular contributor/editor. I have definitely sold him short. Anyway the point is he is a good baseball writer and I'll read his stuff pretty much wherever so he's a reason to go to the site.
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Jun 24, 2016 14:54
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Really cool roundtable discussion on sports journalists and politics. Schefter comes off as a mega dweeb. http://www.si.com/tech-media/2016/06/26/media-circus-sports-media-politics-michele-tafoya-adam-schefter-jemele-hill
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Jun 27, 2016 15:20
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Adam schefter being a weird little man? Shocking!
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Jun 27, 2016 15:49
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Schefter's answers are absolutely amazing:quote:SI.com: In your opinion, should people in the sports media make their political viewpoints known publicly? If yes, why? If no, why? quote:SI.com: How often have you referenced something political on your social media feed and what has been the reaction? This dude is "stick to sports" personified...
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Jun 27, 2016 15:53
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It's extra funny because he talks about how perfect and rigid ESPN's guidelines are when Bomani and Jemele Hill are on the same loving network.
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Jun 27, 2016 15:56
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Schefter always comes off as apolitical as you could get. But I found this funny https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/746479057676668928
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Jun 27, 2016 16:07
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Yeah Schefter is a goob but there are far more insufferable people at ESPN
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Jun 27, 2016 16:14
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Didn't Schefter do that ridiculous Greg Hardy softball interview?
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zakharov posted:Didn't Schefter do that ridiculous Greg Hardy softball interview? Yep
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Jun 27, 2016 16:19
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Yes that was him, unfortunately
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Jun 27, 2016 16:20
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Also to be fair (to his lack of politicizing, not the Greg Hardy thing), his job is strictly to report things, not give his takes on them.
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Jun 27, 2016 16:36
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I imagine Rovell would have the same opinions Schefter does. Schefter isn't much different from him other than reporting on a more important subject.
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Jun 27, 2016 16:38
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Up Circle posted:I imagine Rovell would have the same opinions Schefter does. Schefter isn't much different from him other than reporting on a more important subject. Schefter would never make this https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/741416732766666752
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Jun 27, 2016 16:40
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If Woj is powerful enough to have his own site and stuff just for hot scoops and rumors - why hasn't an NFL writer broke free yet? Ala Schefter.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:25
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Harlock posted:If Woj is powerful enough to have his own site and stuff just for hot scoops and rumors - why hasn't an NFL writer broke free yet? Ala Schefter. Woj basically has the same setup Peter King has
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Jun 27, 2016 19:26
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Badfinger posted:Anyway the point is he is a good baseball writer and I'll read his stuff pretty much wherever so he's a reason to go to the site. I enjoyed his piece on Theo today. As well as Kate Knibbs' ode to the Internet Archive.
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Jun 27, 2016 21:11
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Schefter got people fired because he tweeted protected health information, gently caress that guy
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Jun 27, 2016 23:55
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ElwoodCuse posted:Schefter got people fired because he tweeted protected health information, gently caress that guy Whoever gave him the JPP stuff is an rear end in a top hat that deserved to get fired. It was literally their job to not show other people that poo poo and they didn't do it.
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pseudodragon posted:Whoever gave him the JPP stuff is an rear end in a top hat that deserved to get fired. It was literally their job to not show other people that poo poo and they didn't do it. And instead someone who would not leak people's information got the job instead. I feel like that's a win.
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Jun 28, 2016 00:11
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Adam Schefter isn't the one bound by HIPAA laws. The person deserved their firing
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Jun 28, 2016 00:55
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The Ringer should have hired Nate Duncan.
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euphronius posted:The Ringer should have hired Nate Duncan. I was just thinking that the other day.
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Jun 28, 2016 01:20
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Henchman of Santa posted:Schefter would never make this If Heaven was real, half of those people wouldn't be there.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:04
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Unmerciful posted:Schefter's answers are absolutely amazing: Seems like a smart strategy in today's environment.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:42
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Sash! posted:If Heaven was real, half of those people wouldn't be there. What do you have against Donner's Superman?
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Jun 28, 2016 04:46
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Pumped for some Sash MLK hot takes
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Niwrad posted:Seems like a smart strategy in today's environment.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:52
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I just noticed Superman was in that loving Ali pic.
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The Greg Hardy interview was a joke but I'm sure that's much more of a commentary on the producers and the network than Schefter. I'd bet anything he was pretty much tied down on what he could ask
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sportsgenius86 posted:The Greg Hardy interview was a joke but I'm sure that's much more of a commentary on the producers and the network than Schefter. I'd bet anything he was pretty much tied down on what he could ask The original piece got plenty of criticism but if I remember right it was Schefter's comments afterwards that put the spotlight on him: quote:I’ll say this, I’ll say this to you,” the ESPN NFL reporter told Patrick. “I went in there with the idea that everybody had, that this guy’s a monster, OK? I went in there thinking that this is one of the scariest people in the NFL. And I came out of there with a very different feeling about him. I came out of there with a feeling that this is a guy who has managed to say the wrong things at the wrong times, has not always made the right decisions. But I found him to be a changed kind of guy, a guy that I think realizes he did make a mistake, could have handled things differently in regards to that incident."
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