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diapermeat posted:I find I rarely hit people with Junkrat's ult anymore. As more people become aware of the sound/ult call out, it gets killed more often than not.
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diapermeat posted:I find I rarely hit people with Junkrat's ult anymore. As more people become aware of the sound/ult call out, it gets killed more often than not. Make sure you practice Wall-stalling, best way to fake the enemy out since the tire gets quiet as well.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:41
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Turtlicious posted:Ok, I get what you guys are saying about reaper, but consider this. A decent reaper would get the first and possibly 2nd shot because he just flanked you.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:42
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flashman posted:What do the non Winston's do that is so scary to genji they might be a bit of a pain to kill but they aren't going to kill you. Roadhog's hook is definitely a genji ruiner but bizarrely as long as he misses he's probably the easiest tank for genji to deal with cause he's so huge, so. Zarya's beam being undeflectable is also definitely a detriment too
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Jun 28, 2016 02:44
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D.Va isn't a real tank but how the heck would she lose to a Genji? You'd have to be real bad at tracking to lose that matchup.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:48
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Broseph Brostar posted:D.Va isn't a real tank but how the heck would she lose to a Genji? You'd have to be real bad at tracking to lose that matchup. Hahaha wow D.va didn't even enter my considerations as a tank match up she's such a non-tank I hope that was the case with the other guy
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Jun 28, 2016 02:51
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She does no damage.. how exactly is she going to kill someone who just walks away? Tanks are not worth your time to kill but the claim was they poo poo on genji.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:53
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genji should beat d.va in a fight tbh, it's easy for him to stay out of her effective range and he can outdamage her from there. he can deflect if she gets up close, and as for the tracking thing it's not like genji has to stay on the ground and run in a straight line. he has a double jump and a dash that help make him one of the hardest heroes to track. it's not really a fight d.va should commit to it's also not really worth the effort to take on d.va for the genji since it takes so long and he has better things to do
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Jun 28, 2016 02:54
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Sorry I meant "hahaha genji would be able to wreck a d.va no problem, I didn't even bother to consider it" not that yeah she would never lose to him
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Jun 28, 2016 02:57
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Neither would be able to kill each other if they're both smart, but D.Va should be the one scaring the Genji off and if he doesn't leave she should win.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:02
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Broseph Brostar posted:Neither would be able to kill each other if they're both smart, but D.Va should be the one scaring the Genji off and if he doesn't leave she should win. Stand more than 6 inches away and crack her rock candy faceplate with shurikens man Literally nothing in the game should be scared of a d.va
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Jun 28, 2016 03:04
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d.va isn't ever gonna scare anyone away unless she's using her ult
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Jun 28, 2016 03:05
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D.Va is bad right now, but she's not a free kill for everybody. Genji can reflect when she's close but its not going to make space between the two of them because she isn't forced to stand still and keep firing. The only way for him to get out of her range is to take damage while hopping away or use his dash, then she can boost after him and close the distance again. Its dumb to theorycraft this fight cause its waste of time for both of them, but if the two met each other in an empty flank its the genji running away from her, not the other way around.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:48
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nobody except widow and hanzo have any right to run away from a d.va, and those two only if she gets the jump on them and mercy I guess but that's not really the same thing
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Jun 28, 2016 04:02
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Broseph Brostar posted:D.Va is bad right now, but she's not a free kill for everybody.
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https://watcher.gg/profile/pc/us/Maeski%231803;hero=122 DVA is cool and strong and tons of heroes are food for her Except reaper who you can literally never kill without dumping your mech.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:15
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flashman posted:Tanks are not worth your time to kill but the claim was they poo poo on genji. It's hard to reflect a hammer to the skull or getting rammed into a wall. You cant exactly reflect bullets back at someone when there's a shield covering them either.
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dvas started to see a bit more competitive use actually - mostly as specific counters to torbjorn on numbani and for contesting high ground. I think LG also has run her for the first point on king's row and/or hollywood.flashman posted:She does no damage.. how exactly is she going to kill someone who just walks away? Tanks are not worth your time to kill but the claim was they poo poo on genji. it was a hyperbole used to draw contrast to why he sees less overall play than reaper - reaper shreds tanks at a rate that genji can't match and tank shredding is a very important role for a team Zoness fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 04:34
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First two games of the week; Numbani and Hollywood I wish there was a way to check how many times you've played a map. All I want is to play some KOTH and I keep getting sent to those two miserable cities. Zoness posted:dvas started to see a bit more competitive use actually - mostly as specific counters to torbjorn on numbani and for contesting high ground. I think LG also has run her for the first point on king's row and/or hollywood. Was that in hero limit tournaments? Cause I'm pretty sure she only gets run in those as an off-brand Winston.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:52
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Internet Kraken posted:First two games of the week; Numbani and Hollywood that's a good point I don't remember if they already had a winston in those comps, but I don't think they always did
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Jun 28, 2016 05:10
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Every time I saw D.Va in the past JoshOG tournament it's where a team would run double Winston to contest high ground. So they ran D.VA with Winston instead even though she really doesn't do the same role because no one else has the mobility in one hero limit.
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Jun 28, 2016 05:16
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I'm really scared of D.VA actually, she's really a good opponent when you're low on health, your healer and team is dead, all your skills are on cooldown, and you forget how to press M1, she always gets me when that happens.
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Jun 28, 2016 05:31
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Zoness posted:dvas started to see a bit more competitive use actually - mostly as specific counters to torbjorn on numbani and for contesting high ground. I think LG also has run her for the first point on king's row and/or hollywood. Yeah, coming full circle what I meant for my point to be originally is while genji can compete with tanks when he needs to, reaper is simply better (and/or easier) at busting tanks by design.
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Jun 28, 2016 05:53
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Diva is actually really good on ps4 which is the natural habitat of the game so
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Eh, Genji's kinda neutral with D.Va in my opinion. The shurikens are pretty low damage and are reduced by armor, and even with D.Va's big critbox, it would take a while for them to kill her, and a Genji has better things to do than that. D.Va has boosters to chase and bump a Genji. Reflect is not going to do much on D.Va because at any range where it would do decent damage, it's also close enough for D.Va to see and instantly release the triggers. It's more likely that a Genji would ignore a D.Va in favor of hunting down more easy prey. I've actually had a bit of success recently with strategic timing of D.Va's self destruct on specific maps, either KotH which has an open point or parking it on top of the payload so the payload can't be used as cover. Use it just as the last few seconds tick over to force the enemy off the point and deny them the chance to go to overtime. She still needs a buff to be called a tank, though.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:09
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Just need to make her do a rad slide forward when she starts firing after boosting
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redweird posted:Just need to make her do a rad slide forward when she starts firing after boosting Dude that would be insanely sick. Like if the mech body twisted with the guns still pointing forward and firing
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Jun 28, 2016 06:23
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Just slap some missles onto her Timber Wolf D.Va
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Jun 28, 2016 06:26
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Just let me use my boosters, shield, and guns all at once. And get rid of all crits on the mech. D.va fixed. 
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Jun 28, 2016 06:28
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What's a good hero to pick when the enemy is running two or more Reapers?
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I'd probably run a Torb or a Pharah. Torb will cover areas and his gun is pretty good up close and Pharah can just murder Reaper pretty much whenevs.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:39
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Stacking is bad and should be disabled, god bless.
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Outside of a handful of heroes that need buffs, I'd say balance is tight enough now that a given hero's potential is situational. Some heroes are more reliable in a variety of situations, but that doesn't ensure their dominance. S76 may be more reliable than the ult-feeding Roadhog, but that didn't mean much to the poor S76 I kept clowning with a hook the other day. White room comparisons are useful but things like map layout, team comp, player skill, etc. make it hard to make blanket statements regarding the "correct" hero picks.
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Internet Kraken posted:What's a good hero to pick when the enemy is running two or more Reapers? Pharah is the hardest counter that comes to mind and a soldier whose focus is on repelling flanks can do reasonably.
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Verranicus posted:Stacking is bad and should be disabled, god bless. Teams "stacking" are much weaker than teams that aren't. Adapt.
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Brannock posted:Teams "stacking" are much weaker than teams that aren't. Adapt. i'm p sure that's just his posting gimmick and is not worth responding to
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Jun 28, 2016 07:04
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Lassiz couldn't deal with the 5 Soldier 1 lucio team NOR the 4 soldier 2 hog lineups. he's pretty bad.
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Internet Kraken posted:What's a good hero to pick when the enemy is running two or more Reapers? McCree. Bait out his wraith, flashbang then finish him off with headshots.
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Zoness posted:i'm p sure that's just his posting gimmick and is not worth responding to He's been making sincere posts lately, and given the brevity of that one, I figured it was one of them I'm surprised at all the consternation about stacking, really. I was initially put off by it but after actually playing with it I don't mind it one bit. It makes for the occasional fun round and it lets you put together some interesting team compositions. We were playing against double Mercy earlier this evening and had to make sure we had the right composition that could handle back-to-back resurrections.
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