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So they're pushing mono-black madness rather than RB? This guy turn 2, the 5-drop turn 3?
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This is actually really good. I highly doubt the rest of the set can push vampires into being a Tier 1 deck, but at least this a good start. Discard outlet for turn 3 while being an anthem effect.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:36
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Pretty brutal with Incorrigible Youths
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 because I know we all wanted red donate
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Well, every set needs a super narrow junk rare or two.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:44
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Elyv posted:
Why is this a rare? Also are you image leeching?
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I'm really excited to see the cards they print to enable this now. They wouldn't just throw out a card that was literally useless anywhere outside a Zedruu deck, would they? E: also amazed at the idea of High Tide being legal in a Pauper world where blue mana cheating is already the best deck. Voyager I fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 06:46
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At least she's in the right colors for protection from black You know, for when she brings her first boyfriend home
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Elyv posted:
Seems good with Demonic Pact.
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That Vampire's also pretty good if you can get your lands to come in untapped. Free, instant speed, repeatable discard outlets are the lifeblood of madness decks (this one's at least repeatable in the long term). Helpfully, any Vampires you cast with madness from this ability should resolve before the pump effect itself, so if you have a Youths in hand for the turn after this you're going to be swinging for a whole lot. Thing In The Ice is probably going to get much worse in EDM though. There are a ton of cards in a whole bunch of archetypes that have the Horror subtype stapled on here and there, and it's a lot less impressive if it doesn't actually clear the board.
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I wonder why red isn't playable outside of Chandra when you take away the one thing it has ever done well and give it rares that are worth less than the space they occupy, both physically and within the confines of the set.
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Wilder MongrelMezzanon posted:Why is this a rare? Donate was a rare for, I imagine, the same reasons. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 06:55
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Lets Pickle posted:Seems good with Demonic Pact. I'm sure there might be other cards printed to work with it, but this seems like the most obvious choice. Pact control decks make a comeback with maybe 2 of these in the main?
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Mezzanon posted:Why is this a rare? Because the idea is to donate a Demonic Pact with nothing left on it but "lose the game" The other idea is that Donate is on the Reserved List so this is how you get around it. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 07:04
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Is there anything in modern that you could pull donate tricks with? Immortal Coil + Relic of Progenitus?
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Elyv posted:
Need foils. Also need someone to replace the art with LSVBaby.
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Jun 30, 2016 07:08
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*Crack pack* Donate card to the player sitting to your left.
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Elyv posted:
Exclusive EDM spoiler: there's another colorshifted donate in the set too. Angel of Donations 2W Creature -- Angel Flying, first strike, vigilance, lifelink, haste, protection from permanents you own When Angel of Donations enters the battlefield, target opponent gains control of target permanent you control and you gain 2 life. 4/5
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Exclusive EDM spoiler: there's another colorshifted donate in the set too. Dies to removal.
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I'm gonna build a B/R deck with the tree/triskedawhatever combo and also Red Donate and Demonic Pact and im probably gonna lose a lot
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Exclusive EDM spoiler: there's another colorshifted donate in the set too. Needs trample too, otherwise they can use tricks to get around lifelink.
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DangerDongs posted:This is actually really good. I highly doubt the rest of the set can push vampires into being a Tier 1 deck, but at least this a good start. Discard outlet for turn 3 while being an anthem effect. It's possible that Red/Black becomes a semi viable Aggro deck after Origins and Dragons rotates out. White Aggro will lose it's critical mass of hyper efficient 1 drops and 2 drops. Languish and CoCo leave the format. And Red might get like playable cards in Kaladesh that aren't strictly worse than what every other color has in this set. But probably Red will just get it's artifact themes played with, and will get no playable removal. But with stuff like the Green one drop, it seems like Aggro will just be a White Green aggro deck with new Thalia to curbstomp any other colors aggro strategies and featuring Tireless Tracker and Advocate instead. Also Avacyn. anglachel fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Grixis Demonic Pact + Donate seems like a real thing - it's something that's reasonably powerful, possibly powerful enough to match what G/W and Bant Company decks are doing. It isn't like the top two decks are running maindeck enchantment destruction, right? Dromoka's Command is a messed up magic card.
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Jabor posted:Is there anything in modern that you could pull donate tricks with? Immortal Coil + Relic of Progenitus? Steel Golem / Grid Monitor? There's not much bad stuff out there. Edit: Bronze Bombshell? Still not worth the effort though. Alris fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Hellsau posted:Grixis Demonic Pact + Donate seems like a real thing - it's something that's reasonably powerful, possibly powerful enough to match what G/W and Bant Company decks are doing. It isn't like the top two decks are running maindeck enchantment destruction, right? Keeping Origins and Dragons in and not booting them out when Eldritch Moon hit seems like a pretty lovely decision in retrospect.
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anglachel posted:Keeping Origins and Dragons in and not booting them out when Eldritch Moon hit seems like a pretty lovely decision in retrospect. Demonic Pact is from Origins, sadly. It and Command are locked together, which is a shame because Demonic Pact is a sweet card.
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There's probably going to be something really janky in this set that Harmless Offering combos with. It's going to be really bad, but then again so is Triskaidekaphobia + Tree of Perdition and people love that.
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BJPaskoff posted:There's probably going to be something really janky in this set that Harmless Offering combos with. It's going to be really bad, but then again so is Triskaidekaphobia + Tree of Perdition and people love that. People say that. But like Tree of Perdition is still a big blocker who can make your opponent take 7 effective damage. And Triskaidekaphobia actually causes life loss (or gain if you really need it). Red Donate does nothing by itself. Also Demonic Pact plus Red Donate requires you to survive 2 turns with Demonic Pact staying in play and doing it's thing.
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I think if there was a deck that had both Dark Petition and Demonic Pact, you could chuck donate in there as a one-of and it could be quite good.
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Play Tainted Remedy for the wombo combo with Triskaidekaphobia
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Comedy option: harmless offering + sphinx tutelage as delirium enabler.
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Jun 30, 2016 11:02
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Winning the game on the spot is quite good.
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Scary Decimator of Pronvinces 10 Eldrazi Boar Emerge 6GGG When you cast Edlrazi of Pronvinces, creatures you control get +2/+2 and gain trample until end of turn. Haste, Trample
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Rinkles posted:Scary Why isn't this an Eldrazi Craterhoof?
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Probably because a GGG Craterhoof would be too good?
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Some Numbers posted:Probably because a GGG Craterhoof would be too good? I don't mean the +X/+X, just why isn't the art/typing a callback when it's so similar?
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So is emerge purely BG (except obviously it's only on colourless cards here)? Seems like it could fit Black too.
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BizarroAzrael posted:So is emerge purely BG (except obviously it's only on colourless cards here)? Seems like it could fit Black too. It's Sultai colors only.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I don't mean the +X/+X, just why isn't the art/typing a callback when it's so similar? boar tribal really needed the boost
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Rinkles posted:Scary SOME PIG
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