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Gabriel Pope posted:The main advantage of auctions is that it gets properties into play faster. Letting people say "nah I want to save my money, nobody gets it" slows down an already intolerably slow game further. The downside being that then there are auctions in the game. Which are among the shittiest of all boardgame mechanics, right alongside roll and move (also in Monopoly! Hooray!). I've never understood how people think that that improves the game, much less makes it good.
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The real winning strategy for Monopoly is to cheat on your dice rolls so you avoid properties you don't want to land on. As a bonus when your family catches on you never have to play Monopoly again. Got to play Baseball Highlights 2045 last week against the creator and talk about his design process. It was very enlightening and the game is definitely a labor of love.
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Jun 30, 2016 01:15
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Like in real life, the real winning strategy is to run the bank and embezzle the hell out of everything.
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Jun 30, 2016 04:45
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malkav11 posted:The downside being that then there are auctions in the game. Which are among the shittiest of all boardgame mechanics, right alongside roll and move (also in Monopoly! Hooray!). I've never understood how people think that that improves the game, much less makes it good. Do you also hate all Area Control games? Area Control is just auction mechanics with a different presentation
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Jun 30, 2016 05:16
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malkav11 posted:The downside being that then there are auctions in the game. Which are among the shittiest of all boardgame mechanics, right alongside roll and move (also in Monopoly! Hooray!). I've never understood how people think that that improves the game, much less makes it good. Are you high? Auctions are basically "Can you accurately figure out how much this is worth to the other players and to you, and capitalize on that?" What's wrong with that?
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Jun 30, 2016 05:39
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I don't like auctions myself really but if you think they are a lovely broken mechanic and can't understand why no one agrees with you, one reason is that you're seeing the world as it truly is and everyone else is blind or stupid, sure.
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Jun 30, 2016 05:46
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So I'm stuck playing FCM on Saturday with someone whose most complex game has been Dominion. I doubt she'll be able to handle it and we'll have to quit in the middle but oh well. There are people out there who could jump from Dominion to FCM but nothing indicates she's that person. There is definitely an 'everyone is playing this so I should be playing it too' kind of a vibe. This happened previously; I told a friend he wouldn't like the game but he insisted on trying it because 'everyone is playing it'. And of course we had to quit in the middle. I am becoming a cranky old bitch in my old age, but dammit gaming time is precious. I'd much rather play Dominion with her, but I already promised to teach a friend FCM, and he invited her, Hopefully the carnage will be short and we can move on quickly to Indonesia without her.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:08
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At least you don't have a friend obsessed with Tales of the Arabian nights who only wants to play that every game day, with six players if possible, no house rules, all the way to the end, AND likes to wander off during their turn.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:40
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No gaming is better than bad gaming.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:44
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Blamestorm posted:At least you don't have a friend obsessed with Tales of the Arabian nights who only wants to play that every game day, with six players if possible, no house rules, all the way to the end, AND likes to wander off during their turn. Some of my friends picked it up. He keeps telling me that it's not as bad as I pretend that it is. I'm not calling his Bluff. Why can't he keep his experience generators to the visual novels he reads and play actual good games 
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Jun 30, 2016 06:57
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Blamestorm posted:At least you don't have a friend obsessed with Tales of the Arabian nights who only wants to play that every game day, with six players if possible, no house rules, all the way to the end, AND likes to wander off during their turn.  Arabian Nights isn't even a monthly game. I'm so sorry.
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Jun 30, 2016 07:04
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Got in a set of OR's in my 18OE game   Board state at the beginning of OR 5, 16 hours into the game. Notice there are no 5 trains left, rust in piss 3 trains. I finally ended an OR with the most cash on hand which is a good sign. Also the majority of my companies are worth a good deal thanks to getting them floated to major on 5 shares instead of waiting till 6 shares like my opponents chose to. I'm feeling pretty good here. Next set of OR's will probably determine the game as the 3 trains will rust, but hopefully I get to make an Orient Express run with my two companies that haven't yet. Quote of the game from my pal "The sad part is it took 16 hours to learn I lost in the first hour." 
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Jun 30, 2016 07:05
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Durendal posted:
 I think I am ok never learning or playing any 18XXs.
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Jun 30, 2016 07:15
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Bottom Liner posted:
18OE is its own beast.
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Jun 30, 2016 07:16
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Shadow225 posted:Some of my friends picked it up. He keeps telling me that it's not as bad as I pretend that it is. I'm not calling his Bluff. Why can't he keep his experience generators to the visual novels he reads and play actual good games Arabian Nights is fine game if you play it to 8, it doesn't outstay its welcome and is especially fun if you are drunk and belligerent. I can't loving imagine playing to 20 like the rules suggest though, cripes.
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Jun 30, 2016 10:27
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MikeCrotch posted:Arabian Nights is fine game if you play it to 8, it doesn't outstay its welcome and is especially fun if you are drunk and belligerent. In practice I must admit the towel usually does get thrown in rather than going all the way through. I am also fine with AN for what it is, and it has its place. But it is not really a game - there is no real thinking involved. I think some people prefer that kind of random experience because it takes the pressure off learning rules, competing, thinking about strategies, etc. Instead you just do whatever. I think it was a belated release valve for a couple of people who evidently wanted to do something social but were actively turned off by the heavier stuff the rest of us preferred. Alcohol might have helped but honestly I'd rather just play an RPG. Or, Eldritch Horror. I know people here are a bit split on it but for me that hits the sweet spot between an experience generator and an actual game. Or, for very non games people, there are many other light games I would prefer but a man cannot live on Coup alone.
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Jun 30, 2016 10:44
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Probably a long shot but does anyone have any resources for building custom storage boxes for board games? I am an insane person and sleeved up all my Eldritch Horror stuff and now the boxes are all puffy and won't close.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:04
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Alris posted:Probably a long shot but does anyone have any resources for building custom storage boxes for board games? I am an insane person and sleeved up all my Eldritch Horror stuff and now the boxes are all puffy and won't close. Try BoardGameGeek. They have a whole forum section for DIY projects ranging from foamcore inserts to entire game rooms with custom made gaming tables.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:14
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Durendal posted:18OE is its own beast. Yeah but that quote is the same for all 18xx's, just replace 16 with 5.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:21
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Sockser posted:The box that Once Upon a Time comes in is loving useless, so I went and made my own Holy poo poo, I have an aunt who is crafty and has all the expansions. Forwarding this to her  She'll need a bigger box.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:53
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Baller Ina posted:
It's simply not a game. It's an activity.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:27
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Durendal posted:Got in a set of OR's in my 18OE game The whole thing, eh? That was people's learning game and not a small scenario? That doesn't bode well for them wanting to play more:(
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Jun 30, 2016 13:29
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18OE is an activity: if you think you aren't going to do well, you can still develop your routes and have a good time watching the board develop. I played it twice and it was an incredible experience (especially with 7 people playing). The creation of the links was incredible and watching the board progress was incredibly fun. I also had an entire bottle of wine and a couple of beers. That might have helped as well. 18OE is not a game, it's an experience. Like climbing Mt. Everest.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:33
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I've got the full version of Codex on TTS and am really bad at Codex if anyone wants to play that.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:34
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"Hm, I wonder how much 18OE costs..." *looks up price* "No, no..."
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Jun 30, 2016 13:35
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Just looked at the price, currently going for £185. Glad I got it at the bargain price of £150!
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Jun 30, 2016 13:37
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I could just pull a rutibex, that seems to be what 18XX guys do anyway.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:39
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COOL CORN posted:I could just pull a rutibex, that seems to be what 18XX guys do anyway. Once you step down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:48
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Lorini posted:So I'm stuck playing FCM on Saturday with someone whose most complex game has been Dominion. I doubt she'll be able to handle it and we'll have to quit in the middle but oh well. There are people out there who could jump from Dominion to FCM but nothing indicates she's that person. There is definitely an 'everyone is playing this so I should be playing it too' kind of a vibe. This happened previously; I told a friend he wouldn't like the game but he insisted on trying it because 'everyone is playing it'. And of course we had to quit in the middle. Eh, my partner went cribbage -> Dominion -> Mage Knight so you never know. I don't know FCM but possibly send them a 'rules cheat sheet' printed from the geek or somewhere so they can get an idea before hand?
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Jun 30, 2016 13:57
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Tekopo posted:18OE is not a game, it's an experience. Like climbing Mt. Everest. Twenty people die doing it every year?
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Rutibex posted:Once you step down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. I finish making a copy of 18OE, and suddenly all the lights go out A hooded figure appears behind me... He pulls back the hood of his robe...  I cry out, "noooooooo...!"
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Jun 30, 2016 14:20
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For gently caress's sake, trigger warning for horizontal storage next time, please.
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Jun 30, 2016 14:26
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Jedit posted:Twenty people die doing it every year?
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Jun 30, 2016 14:29
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COOL CORN posted:I could just pull a rutibex, that seems to be what 18XX guys do anyway. You could slap sticker sheets on those comic book backers and you'd still have higher quality components than the route chits in a 18xx game.
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Jun 30, 2016 14:31
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al-azad posted:You could slap sticker sheets on those comic book backers and you'd still have higher quality components than the route chits in a 18xx game. Oh poo poo, that's a good cheap idea.
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Jun 30, 2016 14:32
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Tekopo posted:There are probably less than 20 people that actually have played 18OE in the world, so I doubt it. Off-topic, but what would your estimate of # of people who have played NT in the world be? A hundred? A few hundred?
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Jun 30, 2016 14:45
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silvergoose posted:Off-topic, but what would your estimate of # of people who have played NT in the world be? A hundred? A few hundred?
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theroachman posted:For gently caress's sake, trigger warning for horizontal storage next time, please. Sorry is this a bad thing? I have so many boxes where poo poo would just go everywhere if I had them on their side...
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Jun 30, 2016 14:50
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w00tmonger posted:Sorry is this a bad thing? I have so many boxes where poo poo would just go everywhere if I had them on their side... Baggies are your friend
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Tekopo posted:I honestly don't know: I don't have a strict number of copies of the game available, and it's impossible to say how many people don't actually have the game but have played it on Vassal. Yeah it's just a curiosity; what's the world-least-played game in everyone's collection...that the person has played, I guess? Like, is mine NT, GoG? Papparazzo the weird card game we played once? Maybe Nauticus?
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