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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I picked up this game today after eyeballing it for the last three months and it's been really neat! I love to solve these kinds of problems and I love to try and do so elegantly. It's been discussed but nobody explicitly stated, don't forget your belts have two sides. Inserters will place items on the far end of the belt, but you're only saturating half of your belt at that point. In the pictures, you're only making use of half of your belts. You can use the other half to transport something else, or improve throughput of a single item. Since you'll always need more of everything, you can most easily saturate a belt by having factories/smelters on both sides of the belt inserting onto it. I admit I'm the worst at planning ahead, but whenever you build an intermediate product, just tell yourself that you're going to need more of that at some point and leave yourself room to expand. Produce more product than you need right now, because eventually it won't be enough. I'd post my smelting setup as an example but I'm at work, and I just stole it from some youtuber anyway. I'm not very creative so my setups aren't usually very elegant or efficient but they work. (I'll post it when I get home if anyone wants) Renegret fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Backer train stops is such a small thing that is so infuriating in practice, renamable or not. Needs an option like predefining strings with sequential modifiers, and you pick which string when you place it and it sequentially counts up for you. Like does anyone use stop names that aren't "iron/copper/oil mine 1" or "iron/copper/oil home 1"?
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Updated https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/Flow%20Control https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/Electric%20Furnaces https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/Honk Edit: honk honk GotLag fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Anyone know of an online Factorio blueprint viewer/editor that I can use to make/view designs without having to run the game? I found a few abandoned projects on the forums, none of them seem to work anymore.
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GotLag posted:Updated Wait those are GOON mods? jesus christ, i was using all of those those are great af
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Where can I go to find latest mod updates? The forum is confusing as gently caress and only seems to show 0.12 mods, and the mod database website doesn't have the dropdown updated to only show 0.13 mods. I want LongReach mod mainly! Also, do mods prevent you from unlocking achievements?
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Loopoo posted:Where can I go to find latest mod updates? The forum is confusing as gently caress and only seems to show 0.12 mods, and the mod database website doesn't have the dropdown updated to only show 0.13 mods. Yes, yes they do. As for long reach - look for Factorio-reach on mod portal. It works. also AFAIK all mods on the NEW mod-portal are supposed to be v13 compatible so there.
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Loopoo posted:Where can I go to find latest mod updates? The forum is confusing as gently caress and only seems to show 0.12 mods, and the mod database website doesn't have the dropdown updated to only show 0.13 mods. It looks like they actually removed the general Mod discussion board where all the popular mods have been posted, in favor of the mod portal. New mods will probably start showing up in this forum: https://forums.factorio.com/viewforum.php?f=189
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Chunjee posted:Good post, sharing belts is also good for for products that require 3 or 4 inputs and hopefully have a longer manufacture time. Think of Advanced Circuits or Blue Research. For products that need two belts for input, I'm a fan of flanking the assembling machine with the input belts and using a long-armed inserter for output. Basically your second picture but without the leftmost input belt. Pretty much all production is limited by how quickly you can get materials into the assembling machine rather than how quickly you can pull the end product out. That said, your first picture does look neater...
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Did the tech tree get rearranged? Power Distribution I (medium and large power poles) seems a lot more expensive (120Red/120Green vs 50/50 before?) and the tech for Assembler seems way cheaper now (only 80 Red and no green).
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If so they didn't fix the oil hump, adv oil processing still requires blue.
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quote:Fixed crash when shift right clicking furnace fuel slots. (27125) thank god, this got me like four times last night
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FISHMANPET posted:Did the tech tree get rearranged? Power Distribution I (medium and large power poles) seems a lot more expensive (120Red/120Green vs 50/50 before?) and the tech for Assembler seems way cheaper now (only 80 Red and no green). The patch notes mentioned that they "Increased size of several green science and few blue science technologies." Automation (unlocks Assembling Machine 1) has always been 10 red, and Automation 2 (unlocks Assembling Machine 2) has always cost 2x 40 red, I thought? I don't remember exactly, but since you need Assembler 2 to automate green science, they wouldn't make Assembler 2 cost as much green science as you think they did.
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FISHMANPET posted:Did the tech tree get rearranged? Power Distribution I (medium and large power poles) seems a lot more expensive (120Red/120Green vs 50/50 before?) and the tech for Assembler seems way cheaper now (only 80 Red and no green). I think they have. I was able to blitz through early-game research but have found it much slower going in the latest update because most stuff seems to need more science packs compared to what I'm used to.
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Chunjee posted:Good post, sharing belts is also good for for products that require 3 or 4 inputs and hopefully have a longer manufacture time. Think of Advanced Circuits or Blue Research. bobs mod spotted - don't put the resistor things on a belt - go directly from maker->user if you double stack fast long handled, you can have two full belts of things per side at the cost of extra space  bonus pic  tier-1 circuits made without belting intermediates - only raw mats
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Man I wish there was a way to tell your robots to just replace all tracks (or inserters, etc) with the upgraded versions.
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Less Fat Luke posted:Man I wish there was a way to tell your robots to just replace all tracks (or inserters, etc) with the upgraded versions. No idea if it's still around, but the Upgrade Planner mod allowed that.
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Yeah there was a mod for that and it was fantastic.
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Trip report: I'm playing Lazy Bastard (  ) and halfway through, a buddy shows up. We start a new game, this time with RSO. After we're done, I go back to my Bastard game and play for a few hours.At some point, I check my achievements: "This is a modded game"... I hadn't turned RSO off. So I'm going through the five stages of grief over here, and about when I hit Bargaining, I turned RSO off... the "This is a modded game" message went away. So I tried to get some other achievement to see if I was still good to go. A) I am, I got Pyro on steam-cheevos B) Forest fires are pretty sweet Now, this seems to show that you can use mods on your games to get achievements if you turn them off before you earn them. Hmm.
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I think the whole "No Achievements if Mods are enabled" is stupid. You should get an option in the menu to turn that function off or on. I use some mods that are harmless, but just make life easier (long-reach) and I wouldn't have an issue earning mods with that on. Other mods that fundamentally change the game and make things much easier, then yeah, I'd want achievements turned off because I'd feel like I hadn't earned them.
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More 0.13 updates! https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/Crafted%20Artifacts https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/Artifact%20Retexture Mods that aren't mine but are popular and useful: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/DaCyclops/GDIW https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Choumiko/RailTanker https://mods.factorio.com/mods/DaveMcW/blueprint-string Edit: uploaded Better Fluid Colors myself because the author's not been on the Factorio forum for almost three months: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/GotLag/BetterFluidColors GotLag fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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May as well jump in. I've been super duper lazy about modding, but 0.13 has made me stir a bit and update some of my poo poo. Persistent research, switching research focus doesn't lose progress. https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Schmendrick/persistent-research Stamina: hand crafting and mining drain health (and running decreases regeneration). Automate the things! https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Schmendrick/Stamina Longer underground belts; fast and express underground belts go further, and cost more (this was done at a streamer's request). Should adapt intelligently to mods. https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Schmendrick/longer-belts
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Evilreaver posted:Trip report: Yeah I noticed that too but it won't be much of a leg up on a lot of the achievements. The 'no achievements with mods' thing seems to be fairly prevalent (see Paragon games) but I'm not really convinced it's a great idea. It's probably the simplest way for the producer to get a handle on the 'cheating for dick waving' problem though. I mean, people could just swap saves and get them a lot easier but whatever. I'm doing my Lazy Bastard, no solar and other special games in small chunks. I got the LB to green science for example then went back to playing normally. It keeps the whole thing from becoming a horrible grindy chore. Just have to be careful though, I only have 6 crafts left (if 111/111 still counts as a win? I may stick to 110/111 just to be safe) out of which refineries and the rocket silo still need to come.
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I remember playing a slightly modded X3 and using Steam Achievement Manager to manually give myself achievements at the appropriate times.
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My favorite "no achievements with mods" is Cities: skylines, where very quickly after launch a mod was available that enabled achievements with mods.
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Mr. Powers posted:My favorite "no achievements with mods" is Cities: skylines, where very quickly after launch a mod was available that enabled achievements with mods. For a while that was the only mod I played the game with
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It feels bad when you get sweet starting location geographically, but there's no coal at all in sight.  Edit: Got another good looking map without one resource in starting area, this time iron. Sininu fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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One thing is that achievements are used by developers to see how players progress through the game. If 95% of players have achievements for beating level 1, 90% for 2, 85% for 3 and 35% for 4, then you know that something is wrong with level 4.
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SinineSiil posted:It feels bad when you get sweet starting location geographically, but there's no coal at all in sight. The map generation does seem to have some issues. I got a map with plenty of copper, but hardly any iron (the tiny bit of iron I got was split by a lake). Fortunately, there's enough iron for me to have got something up and running (also, I am really bad at designing production lines once I reach blue science) Ratzap posted:Yeah I noticed that too but it won't be much of a leg up on a lot of the achievements. The 'no achievements with mods' thing seems to be fairly prevalent (see Paragon games) but I'm not really convinced it's a great idea. It's probably the simplest way for the producer to get a handle on the 'cheating for dick waving' problem though. I mean, people could just swap saves and get them a lot easier but whatever. I expect achievements are typically turned off when the game is modded because there is a certain amount of online dick waving to having achievements. Modding and cheats in single player hurts no one, but cheating in multiplayer is usually seen as a dick move. Achievements fall between single player and multiplayer, generally a bit closer to single player, but still, there's just enough of a multiplayer element for developers to want to disable them when mods are in the game. There's ways around the problem, but if getting achievements is at least seen as legit, it helps.
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thedaian posted:The map generation does seem to have some issues. I got a map with plenty of copper, but hardly any iron (the tiny bit of iron I got was split by a lake). Fortunately, there's enough iron for me to have got something up and running (also, I am really bad at designing production lines once I reach blue science) I feel like that's part of the challenge of the game. Obviously if you have zero iron that's one thing, but if it's just a matter of "not enough" that's when you have to figure out how to get iron from a distant location. But yeah the map IMO should always generate at least a tiny amount of each resources in your starting location otherwise there isn't much you can do.
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It does spawn one patch of each resource in the starting area, separate from all the other world generation code. But it's not smart enough to avoid placing a patch in the middle of a lake, or the middle of a larger resource patch, resulting in no actual resource nodes being placed.
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SuicideSnowman posted:I feel like that's part of the challenge of the game. Obviously if you have zero iron that's one thing, but if it's just a matter of "not enough" that's when you have to figure out how to get iron from a distant location. But yeah the map IMO should always generate at least a tiny amount of each resources in your starting location otherwise there isn't much you can do. Yeah, I was hoping for slightly less resources in my starting area, since I wanted to play with trains this update (currently I have a really short iron train, but that's it).
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Ratzap posted:Yeah I noticed that too but it won't be much of a leg up on a lot of the achievements. The 'no achievements with mods' thing seems to be fairly prevalent (see Paragon games) but I'm not really convinced it's a great idea. It's probably the simplest way for the producer to get a handle on the 'cheating for dick waving' problem though. I mean, people could just swap saves and get them a lot easier but whatever. You can build the silo in an assembler.
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SinineSiil posted:It feels bad when you get sweet starting location geographically, but there's no coal at all in sight. Had the same problem last night. Ended up restarting 4 or 5 times before I got a map with one of each resource nearby. Of course now there's a patch of oil that looks to have at least 30 nodes nearby as well, and it almost feels like cheating.
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There seem to be issues with the new map generation. I've run ridiculously far and found no coal. It's not just you.
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Ratzap posted:I'm doing my Lazy Bastard, no solar and other special games in small chunks. I got the LB to green science for example then went back to playing normally. It keeps the whole thing from becoming a horrible grindy chore. Just have to be careful though, I only have 6 crafts left (if 111/111 still counts as a win? I may stick to 110/111 just to be safe) out of which refineries and the rocket silo still need to come. You only need to hand-make one refinery and that's the last thing you need. With one refinery you can make blue science, and you can use blue science to unlock the Assember 3, which can make anything. That said, it takes a while to get to the Assember 3, so I guess hand-making more than one refinery isn't out of the question if you know you have the leeway.
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Tenebrais posted:You only need to hand-make one refinery and that's the last thing you need. With one refinery you can make blue science, and you can use blue science to unlock the Assember 3, which can make anything. Ah yes of course, I was just basing it off the blue ones. That gives me a nice amount of headroom then. I got rather carried away with landfill and removed all the water... that had my pumps in it  Clearing nests is pretty easy with this version. I'm doing no laser turrets and no logistic net in this save but a line of gun turrets to provide cover fire, poison caps, cluster grenades and the flamethrower make mincemeat of them. Fully upgraded cluster grenades and especially the flamethrower are lovely.
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0.13.2 has been released, because apparently the Factorio devs never sleep: https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=277580.13.2 Changelog posted:Changes
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Did they update the console commands Lua wiki? I want to play with always day! 
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