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Funniest Swedish Monarchy Home Videos: Erik XIV pisses off his nobles by marrying a Finnish commoner, and even makes her Queen. It would have been ok to have multiple wives tho, Swedes were totally down with official concubines. Later nobles confront him over him being a poo poo king, he stabs several of them to death and flees into the woods. While he's still on the lam, his brother, Johan III, doesn't actually want to be king but nobles talk him into accepting the crown because his bro is just that much of an idiot.
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Adolf Fredrik the King of Sweden is my 2nd most favourite monarch: "Adolf Frederick died in Stockholm on 12 February 1771 after having consumed a meal consisting of lobster, caviar, sauerkraut, kippers and champagne, which was topped off with 14 servings of his favourite dessert: semla stuffed with almond paste and served in a bowl of hot cream."
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Jun 30, 2016 12:22
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I'm thinking of making a PYF Noble thread. e: here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3781641 Hogge Wild fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 12:24
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Kemper Boyd posted:
It's Political Correctness GONE MAD!!!!!
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Jun 30, 2016 12:39
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Empress Theonora posted:I'm so worried about Malcom White. For the last few days, every time I've read one of Trin's blog posts I've had this going through my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK0yG8xG5I#t=8m
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Jun 30, 2016 13:16
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Ainsley McTree posted:I remember hearing that in the American Revolution (and presumably other wars, but I heard this from a speaker at bunker hill so this is the war he was talking about) the British used these nasty triangle bayonets designed to open up a wound that would basically never close, thus making it pretty much a death sentence if you got stuck with one. I know that people like to watch The Patriot and believe British people are literally moustache-twirling evil Nazis, but this really doesn't seem likely to me. A triangular bayonet is simply stronger and easier to make than a blade, and unlike with eg a sword just as effective because you're using it to stab not slice.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:36
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feedmegin posted:I know that people like to watch The Patriot and believe British people are literally moustache-twirling evil Nazis, but this really doesn't seem likely to me. Have you seen the news recently? Anyway in this post-brexit world, I expect all talk of wars between Catholics and Protestants to cease, whoever heard of such a ludicrous thing, it would be like turning the world upside down. In fact, Milhist thread you have Posted too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go! Anyway I am off to speak to some men in Putney about the proper way to order our new nation. I am meeting some historical reenactment guys next month about getting me a buff coat and a floppy hat and doing some pike drill. Thanks Hey Gal!
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Jun 30, 2016 13:50
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Fangz posted:No, this is wrong. A WWII sword is a personal defence weapon designed primarily to embody some kind of ceremonial tradition, with the benefit of being relatively convenient to carry strapped to one's waist in one's daily life. There's lots of compromises there as well. It should be no surprise that the main battlefield weapon in traditional Japanese warfare is actually the spear. Plenty of non officer people on both sides on the Chinese front carried swords, so they presumably saw some nonzero level of practical utility there. I'm still shooting the guys with guns first, but that's more on account of the bullets than the bayonets.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:55
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P-Mack posted:Plenty of non officer people on both sides on the Chinese front carried swords, so they presumably saw some nonzero level of practical utility there. There was a fairly decent paper on sword use in China in WWII and the conclusions were that they were mostly used by MP/Provost Marshal types that were securing rear areas, and weren't significantly used in combat outside a couple of notable cases. The anti-Japanese forces also had a hard time with supplies.
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Jun 30, 2016 13:58
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lenoon posted:Have you seen the news recently? We seem to have a bit of an infestation of street-level fascist thugs these days, but the people actually in charge are way, way too incompetent even for the Nazis. Compared to our current lot, Charles I was the model of a sensible, well-liked, competent administrator. 
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Jun 30, 2016 14:12
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Kemper Boyd posted:Fun fact: Christina was actually no queen at all, she was crowned as King Christina. Sometimes that happens. Wu Zetian declared herself emperor because the Chinese title for empress (huanghou) is much less flattering than the title for emperor (huangdi)
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Jun 30, 2016 14:14
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Wasn't Cleopatra a king too?
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Jun 30, 2016 14:16
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Tias posted:Wait, what. Which Danish king are you referring to!? Sorry, Swedish, not Danish. Hogge Wild posted:Wasn't Cleopatra a king too? I think "Pharoah" didn't have a feminine equivalent. So when Hatsheput and Cleopatra became sole pharoah, that was the title they assumed.
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HEY GAL posted:edit: In this terrain, I wonder if the Italian army is heavily Tyroleans or Slovenians? In that case, some of the guys who are dying for Austria-Hungary and some of the guys who are dying for Italy would have come from almost the same places, and spoken the same languages. Lussu's unit has already had one (cut for space and so as not to just barf the whole book) incident where they captured some prisoners who spoke a funny language and assumed them to be spies wearing Italian uniforms. Fortunately it was all sorted out by a sergeant before a sufficiently senior officer could appear and start demanding a firing squad...
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Jun 30, 2016 14:32
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:There was a fairly decent paper on sword use in China in WWII and the conclusions were that they were mostly used by MP/Provost Marshal types that were securing rear areas, and weren't significantly used in combat outside a couple of notable cases. The anti-Japanese forces also had a hard time with supplies. Yep, I think I linked that a while back. I also remember one story about a Chinese soldier who had studied in Tokyo and spoke fluent Japanese. One night he impersonated a Japanese officer and talked a base guard into opening the gate for him, at which point his men snuck in and took the whole garrison prisoner at sword point.
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P-Mack posted:Yep, I think I linked that a while back. Haha, reminds me of Wilhelm Voigt: "Friedrich Wilhelm Voigt (13 February 1849 – 3 January 1922) was a German impostor who, in 1906, masqueraded as a Prussian military officer, rounded up a number of soldiers under his "command", and "confiscated" more than 4,000 marks from a municipal treasury."
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feedmegin posted:I know that people like to watch The Patriot and believe British people are literally moustache-twirling evil Nazis, but this really doesn't seem likely to me. A triangular bayonet is simply stronger and easier to make than a blade, and unlike with eg a sword just as effective because you're using it to stab not slice. I dunno about triangular blades, but IIRC the Hessian mercenaries during the American Revolution were known for using serrated blades, which would not only kill you but make a hell of a mess while doing so. Lord knows if they were actually effective, but the reputation was certainly enough to make the Hessians reviled and feared.* *I think, it's been a while since I read anything about this
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I dunno about triangular blades, but IIRC the Hessian mercenaries during the American Revolution were known for using serrated blades, which would not only kill you but make a hell of a mess while doing so. Lord knows if they were actually effective, but the reputation was certainly enough to make the Hessians reviled and feared.* Didn't that also happen in WWI. That is, some German soldiers were issued multi-purpose bayonets with a saw-blade for cutting wood. But it was such an allied propaganda coup that they stopped after a few years. It probably also helped that there isn't much wood to saw after a heavy artillery barrage.
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golden bubble posted:Didn't that also happen in WWI. That is, some German soldiers were issued multi-purpose bayonets with a saw-blade for cutting wood. But it was such an allied propaganda coup that they stopped after a few years. It probably also helped that there isn't much wood to saw after a heavy artillery barrage. Au contraire; there's an awful lot of wood to saw to rebuild the wooden revetments that stop your trench just falling in on itself after heavy rain. Also, this sounds like an excellent excuse to have, once more, Father Galaup and the Saga of the Bayonet: quote:The abbé Galaup was haunted for some time by the desire to find a German rifle with a sawtoothed bayonet attached, to take home as a souvenir. The Germans had one of these in each squad, in case it was needed to cut a branch, saw up a wooden plank, etc. Of course they would occasionally put it on the end of a rifle, to cut through a thorax or a belly. It served double duty. Father Galaup, in search of this combination weapon-tool, went out into the fog each morning, at the risk of intercepting a bullet along the way.
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feedmegin posted:I know that people like to watch The Patriot and believe British people are literally moustache-twirling evil Nazis, but this really doesn't seem likely to me. A triangular bayonet is simply stronger and easier to make than a blade, and unlike with eg a sword just as effective because you're using it to stab not slice. Yeah, the triangle bayonets are just a way of efficiently creating a strong point for a weapon that doesn't need an edge. You also see triangular blades in some period smallswords as well. That leads me to believe that the idea of triangle bayonets being especially dangerous is a myth. If you're an American militia dude in 1776 and you're getting impaled with a bayonet, you probably have bigger problems to worry about than the specific shape of the bayonet.
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People just really like the idea that your stabby thing is worse than my stabby thing.
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lenoon posted:I am meeting some historical reenactment guys next month about getting me a buff coat and a floppy hat and doing some pike drill. anyway i hope to see you in the Netherlands one day, which is where most of the English reenactors who go to europe end up HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 15:42
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I can't believe the man in the tricorner hat deceived me like that
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HEY GAL posted:the way english people fight with pikes is goddamn dumb as hell, get ready for a shoving match, "english pike push" is retarded. You should come to Germany/the Czech republic instead, where (if we're on opposite sides that day) I'll stab you. Are you telling me that the British might not have been able to make the most efficient use of the home guard pike?  Everything they issued to the home guard seems to have been terrifying in the exact wrong way. Sticky bomb, Northover Projector...
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Jun 30, 2016 15:59
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the hell am i looking at there
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HEY GAL posted:the hell am i looking at there A winstonchurchillism.
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oh no
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Not really. Churchill was frustrated that in mid-1941 the Home Guard still didn't have enough weapons to issue every member a gun and wrote in a memo that they had to issue every member of the Home Guard a weapon even if it was just a pike or a mace. He was exaggerating for effect, but some clod at the War Office took it literally and had thousands of pikes made up from old bayonets and pipes. Neither Churchill nor the poor bastards who were issued the things were happy about it.
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HEY GAL posted:the hell am i looking at there In WW2 Winston Churchill was a huge fan of the Home Guard, a militia formed of men who were unsuitable for real military service, as a reserve and defense force in case of German invasion of England. At the time, though, the country had its hands full trying to equip its actual military with guns and tanks and stuff, so the Home Guard was woefully underequipped, most of what they had was hilariously ineffective or dangerous, and many of them went unarmed. Churchill angrily told the War Office in 1941 that "every man must have a weapon of some sort, be it only a mace or a pike", so someone took him at his word and ordered the production of a quarter-million pikes for defense of the British homeland against German invaders.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:27
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The good old Civ Spearman strategy.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:30
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Good to know that even other British people can't tell when British people are joking
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Jun 30, 2016 16:32
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brexit!
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feedmegin posted:I know that people like to watch The Patriot and believe British people are literally moustache-twirling evil Nazis, but this really doesn't seem likely to me. A triangular bayonet is simply stronger and easier to make than a blade, and unlike with eg a sword just as effective because you're using it to stab not slice. Honestly, all bayonets until the mid 19th century have the same drat design when it comes to the blade.
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Since the Germans liked to drop their airborne troops separate from their weapons it is not totally improbable that pike-armed Home Guards could have killed a fallschirmjaeger or two.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:49
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Hogge Wild posted:I'm thinking of making a PYF Noble thread.
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Lovely Mary Seacole gets her own memorial at last!
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HEY GAL posted:does wallenstein count Duke of friedland.
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HEY GAL posted:does wallenstein count yes, and he also dukes
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Xiahou Dun posted:That is a very narrow amount of academics and is a lovely right-wing portrayal of a real annoying thing that sometimes happens. I gotta say, you are taking that bit of the novel amazingly hard. I understand why you stooped to the Ringo analogy, now. Just some context for people who've never read Cryptonomicon: One of the narrative characters in the book is Randy Waterhouse, who's a CS nerd in charge of a university's computer system. He is in a failing soon-to-be-terminated relationship with Charlene, an academic of some description. The last night Randy (who is really unhappy with his life) attends a dinner with Charlene and a bunch of academics who are attending a conference at the university. Usually he knows better, but this night he argues with a prestigious academic, a Dr. GEB Kivistik, who's a contrarian about the internet. Rereading the section (it's about 5 pages) Randy comes off as a dick, abet one who's actually speaking his mind for once. He tries to pull rank on the academic, saying that he actually understands the internet (being a huge networking nerd) while the professor does not. The argument quickly turns to one of privilege, first, who gets to tell who they don't know poo poo, and second, how Randy got this position of knowledge in the first place. Randy acts like a reddit user would, and claims his education was completely normal; all he did was bought some books and spent lots of time messing around. The Prof counters that the ability to wade through technical texts and actually understand them makes him highly privileged, and he is supported by this by Charlene, who then points out that Randy's father is a engineer teaching at a state college, and his grandfather was a mathematician. Anyway, the argument (in the dinner and in the book) is inconclusive - both sides frankly have a point. I understand how you get to "it basically says social science is bullshit"; like I said, I think you've taken this little bit amazingly hard, but I just don't see it. Are you a Yale professor who wrote a contrarian book on the internet?  Real milhist post: Part of the inspiration for Cryptonomicon, I think, came from the discovery of I-101, a sunken IJN submarine. She was in the Atlantic sailing to France when she was intercepted and sunk by USN warplanes. On-board she had (among other things) 2.2 tons of gold, which in today's prices would be worth $84,806,849 in US dollars. It's still there, sunk in the mid-Atlantic. There's a guy who's lead at least one expedition to the sub, but all they recovered was a several pound block of opium.
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Hogge Wild posted:yes, and he also dukes
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