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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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OwlFancier posted:As in, Scotland is overwhelmingly white british. I think about 94%
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:31 |
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keep punching joe posted:The area of Glasgow is probably a majority population of new Scots and the only hate crimes I've witnessed are yoons who don't event live here moaning about it on social media. Careful now, that might be construed as sectarian bigotry.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:59 |
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baronvonsabre posted:I presume that's from the European and External Relations Committee this morning. Didn't watch it myself, but the report will be available from 6pm today apparently. The panel of experts discussion doesn't appear to be up on the Scottish Parliament YouTube account yet, only the first part with Fiona Hyslop You can watch meetings live or immediately afterwards on Parliament TV, they take a little while to get uploaded to Youtube after that.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 18:26 |
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OwlFancier posted:That may also be as a result of Scotland being 95% white. Well, yes and no. If we were just comparing raw total number of hate crimes occurring between Scotland and England then of course Scottish numbers are lower for that reason. However, this is about a proportional increase in reported hate crimes, so population size and the proportion of which are ethnic minorities don't really come into it, since it normalises those factors to a significant degree. Demographics probably do still have influence, but if the referendum was causing an increase in hate crime incidence in Scotland, we would expect that it would be clear that it was increasing here as well (though probably by less than what it has in England), rather than apparently not changing at all. EDIT: thanks for the link. Parliament.tv has the full video in one part, and the second half with the Expert Panel is now on YouTube baronvonsabre fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jun 30, 2016 |
# ? Jun 30, 2016 18:40 |
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Basically Brexit happened and a lot of people took that as a starting gun to kick off some ethnic cleansing and coincidentally the only people doing so were in England. Although a friend of mine did get yelled at to get out walking back home so I'm sure there's a slight increase, just not statistically relevant.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:16 |
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baronvonsabre posted:Police Scotland: No rise in hate crime in Scotland since Brexit While this is something, it's still a pretty bleak time to be someone with dark skin or a foreign accent. My mother works at a Primary School in the in the village I grew up in & she was telling me that a young family are going back to Poland. They've not had any abuse but they are absolutely terrified of it happening and so just don't feel comfortable staying here. It's grim.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:25 |
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I keep having to remind idiots that my dad was an immigrant, whereupon they trot out "not that kind of immigrant". Even in fairly multicultural Aberdeen there are unwitting xenophobes.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:33 |
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Chas McGill posted:I keep having to remind idiots that my dad was an immigrant, whereupon they trot out "not that kind of immigrant". Even in fairly multicultural Aberdeen there are unwitting xenophobes. Does Aberdeen still have a fairly sizeable National Front presence? I lived there about 10 years ago and remember being shocked by the amount of NF and swastika graffiti around the place.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:35 |
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keep punching joe posted:Does Aberdeen still have a fairly sizeable National Front presence? I lived there about 10 years ago and remember being shocked by the amount of NF and swastika graffiti around the place. I've had flyers from them a couple of times around elections, but I couldn't really say if they have any more presence than that.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:38 |
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keep punching joe posted:Does Aberdeen still have a fairly sizeable National Front presence? I lived there about 10 years ago and remember being shocked by the amount of NF and swastika graffiti around the place.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:38 |
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OwlFancier posted:As in, Scotland is overwhelmingly white british. I think about 94% my sister (and I) are white british, it didn't stop a glasgow cab driver for cussing her out today for being able to vote because we have canadian accents.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:44 |
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CoolCab posted:my sister (and I) are white british, it didn't stop a glasgow cab driver for cussing her out today for being able to vote because we have canadian accents.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:45 |
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Extreme0 posted:Lol Labour getting hosed again and the Greens taking a wave of support. The Greens always seem to get six extra points or so whenever there's not about to be an election
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 20:00 |
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keep punching joe posted:Does Aberdeen still have a fairly sizeable National Front presence? I lived there about 10 years ago and remember being shocked by the amount of NF and swastika graffiti around the place. Davey McDonald and his ilk get shouted down by our active and on point antifa branch whenever they even try and breath a bit louder. Not that much graffiti as far as I've seen.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 20:07 |
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baronvonsabre posted:I presume that's from the European and External Relations Committee this morning. Didn't watch it myself, but the report will be available from 6pm today apparently. The panel of experts discussion doesn't appear to be up on the Scottish Parliament YouTube account yet, only the first part with Fiona Hyslop
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 20:49 |
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I think immigrants get an easy ride in Scotland primarily because when Scots need someone to blame all their problems on, there's a much more obvious candidate (Westminster). Secessionist movements, seeing themselves as the underdogs, tend to be unusually left-wing and unusually not-racist. In Scotland specifically, left-wing rhetoric and multiculturalism has also become a way of distinguishing the country's identity from that of England and the hated Tories. I suspect Scotland will start shifting to the right on all sorts of questions when you secure independence and stop defining your culture partly as a negative of England's - immigration being foremost among them. There's almost no Western European country where anti-immigrant sentiment isn't a big issue, and I can't see why Scotland would be any different when it gets control of its own borders.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 21:07 |
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Unless an independent Scotland chose to mirror Brexit UK's immigration policy rather than have a hard border between the two.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 21:51 |
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Chas McGill posted:Not that I've seen - I've actually noticed quite a few anti nazi stickers on traffic lights and like. I live right in the centre though, so other areas may be different. You've not been down the beach, then, where "POLES OUT" is scrawled on the walls faster than it can be scrubbed off.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 22:02 |
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Pissflaps posted:Unless an independent Scotland chose to mirror Brexit UK's immigration policy rather than have a hard border between the two. Which depends if the UK joins the EEA or not. Jedit posted:You've not been down the beach, then, where "POLES OUT" is scrawled on the walls faster than it can be scrubbed off. I didn't realise that Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire were home to more Nazi scum then I thought.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 22:18 |
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 22:26 |
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If all of Pages 6, 7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 is just laughing and making a mockery of Boris Johnson then I might have to buy the Daily Record for the first time.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 22:31 |
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http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/14591154.Ex_Nasdaq_traders_bid_to_launch_new_stock_exchange_in_Scotland_by_2017/ Ex-Nasdaq traders bid to launch new stock exchange in Scotland by 2017 quote:Scotland could have its own stock exchange again by 2017, more than 40 years after the Glasgow stock exchange ceased trading
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 23:36 |
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Jedit posted:You've not been down the beach, then, where "POLES OUT" is scrawled on the walls faster than it can be scrubbed off. Yeah , I did in real life first time I went for a walk on the beach and saw all that poo poo
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 23:43 |
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As someone from Aberdeen who now lives in Glasgow it's always nice to go back and see the Nazi graffiti. The stuff we get down here is sectarian and uses slang nobody else can understand, which somewhat defeats the point in my opinion.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 23:53 |
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Extreme0 posted:http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/14591154.Ex_Nasdaq_traders_bid_to_launch_new_stock_exchange_in_Scotland_by_2017/ I'm very disappointed they didn't ape GTAV and call it BAWSAQ
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 00:01 |
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jre posted:Yeah , I did in real life first time I went for a walk on the beach and saw all that poo poo Why the beaches? Is that where they think all the dastardly poles enter the country, rather than y'know, walking straight through an airport terminal like they've been legally entitled to for some time now
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 00:09 |
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For all the talk of 'leaving the failing union' you'd think the EU wasn't also on a similar precipice. There's a very good chance the EU looks very different than it does right now in just a couple years time-- even if they all hate brexit no-one in the EU can agree on exactly what the solution is or even the near term path forward. It's been some time coming but this is probably the beginnings of the actual crash. It simply isn't viable in it's current form because the point of the shared currency was to bring about full political unification. That's failed completely and as such the current state of affairs cannot last, they need to move back to a much looser structure because of it. The UK needs the EU, but the EU needs the UK nearly as badly and a lot of people seem to have missed that part.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 00:47 |
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Angepain posted:Why the beaches? Is that where they think all the dastardly poles enter the country, rather than y'know, walking straight through an airport terminal like they've been legally entitled to for some time now No, it's for the much more prosaic reason that fascists and racists are cowards. They do their scrawling down at the beach because they can go there at 2am without fear that anyone will see who is doing it.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 01:03 |
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Jedit posted:No, it's for the much more prosaic reason that fascists and racists are cowards. They do their scrawling down at the beach because they can go there at 2am without fear that anyone will see who is doing it. I guess we'll just have to fight them on the beaches then.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 01:08 |
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PiCroft posted:I'm very disappointed they didn't ape GTAV and call it BAWSAQ well that's what it's called now
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 03:54 |
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:For all the talk of 'leaving the failing union' you'd think the EU wasn't also on a similar precipice. There's a very good chance the EU looks very different than it does right now in just a couple years time-- even if they all hate brexit no-one in the EU can agree on exactly what the solution is or even the near term path forward. It's been some time coming but this is probably the beginnings of the actual crash. Counterpoint: while the UK was in the EU had to deal with a shitload more special interest bullshit. Now it's not completely hamstrung by tantrum-throwing crybabies on some rainy Atlantic island blocking everything anymore
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 07:38 |
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blowfish posted:Counterpoint: while the UK was in the EU had to deal with a shitload more special interest bullshit. Now it's not completely hamstrung by tantrum-throwing crybabies on some rainy Atlantic island blocking everything anymore Having a state that represented the concerns of euroskeptics was a very good thing for Europe. If you look at the mood in Western Europe and think ' now's the time to push for deeper integration', you're an idiot. Euroskeptic movements in France and Holland will eat Brussels alive if they try that. But they'll do it anyway because they're really stupid.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 07:50 |
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Angepain posted:I guess we'll just have to fight them on the beaches then.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 08:26 |
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baronvonsabre posted:Police Scotland: No rise in hate crime in Scotland since Brexit Dorset police said they've had no reported rise either. Seems to be localised to certain areas.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 08:58 |
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PiCroft posted:I'm very disappointed they didn't ape GTAV and call it BAWSAQ I worked on GTA 4 and there are so many dumb, wee Scottish jokes in it. There's a Greek take out joint on one of the islands called Gyro Day.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 11:05 |
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serious gaylord posted:Dorset police said they've had no reported rise either. Seems to be localised to certain areas. That's very interesting, given that Dorset was such a strong area for Leave.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 11:10 |
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Whiteness doesn't seem to stop it tbh. A friend of mine got told to gently caress off back to Poland, he presumes for the crime of glancing too long at the Polish section in Tesco. (and this was in Leith, not England)
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 11:17 |
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Some good news as Martin Kitts-Hayes, the defector who handed Aberdeenshire Council to the SNP in exchange for the deputy leadership, is being sent before the Ethics tribunal after walking out on a conference in Denmark and using taxpayers money to fly home because he didn't like the hotel. Whether or not they do anything is to be seen, but at least the SNP voted to get rid of their useful idiot.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 11:44 |
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Going to update the list again. Got some new entries like MEP David Martin, Former MSP Malcolm Chisholm and Kevin McKenna. But right now...the News! http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/video/commission-says-scotlands-eu-future-is-up-to-uk/ quote:An independent Scotland could be part of the EU after Brexit without re-applying for membership if London and Edinburgh were to agree, EU officials have said. https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/8725/barry-graham-peculiar-movement-yess-nos I don't seem to understand this mindset. If you voted Yes the last time when Scotland was going to have an issue with EU membership then why the gently caress are you voting No now unless you really hate the EU more then anything else. I mean I can understand why people don't like the EU but why did they vote Yes the last time when a majority of Scots would of wanted Scotland in the EU anyways? Is there hatred so far for the EU that they were willing to burn a bridge with the UK just to spite the EU? Makes no sense... Also is this accuate? https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/748800981844975618 Sion posted:I worked on GTA 4 and there are so many dumb, wee Scottish jokes in it. There's a Greek take out joint on one of the islands called Gyro Day. It's why I love the GTA Series. There is so many scottish references to things that I can get instantly that others have to look up. Acaila posted:Whiteness doesn't seem to stop it tbh. A friend of mine got told to gently caress off back to Poland, he presumes for the crime of glancing too long at the Polish section in Tesco. (and this was in Leith, not England) Agreed. My friend before the Referendum was asked if he was Polish or not and said no. The guy asked if he was Scottish which he was and then he just went in a gleeful laugh and smile while shakeing his hand. I didn't think much of it as the guy did seem drunk but now after the referendum. I'm actually worried this is going to be a mindset that needs to be sorted soon enough if it continues. I'm wondering if it's associated more with stench unionists or stench zoomers. It doesn't make much sense for the latter considering like everyone says the main target is Westminister and Tories which is very easy for everyone regardless of ethnic origin to agree on but I'm willing to believe there are nationalists who are both anti-EU and anti-UK that for some reason hate the polish? I don't know just dosen't sound right. I can understand it more from the likes of some rear end in a top hat Ranger fans and loyalists as they tend to target anyone I've noticed that isn't up to their standard plus kippers as well but Scottish separatists? I mean it's true in some regard that there will be a bunch of racists on both sides but i don't think they would be a big number in the Yes side let alone any side. Then again Racists don't tend to need reason to hate someone Jedit posted:Some good news as Martin Kitts-Hayes, the defector who handed Aberdeenshire Council to the SNP in exchange for the deputy leadership, is being sent before the Ethics tribunal after walking out on a conference in Denmark and using taxpayers money to fly home because he didn't like the hotel. Whether or not they do anything is to be seen, but at least the SNP voted to get rid of their useful idiot.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 12:01 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 23:34 |
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Imo there shouldn't be anyone on the council with a double barreled name anyway
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 12:01 |