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stinkles1112 posted:Yeah I'm with you on this one. Card is good. I've always been pretty skeptical about delirium bring consistent enough but I think this card is playable in much more than just decks that are trying to hit delirium.
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Madmarker posted:Not to mention Delirium is a thing. This set is fricked up as heck
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Jun 30, 2016 19:47
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mcmagic posted:I've always been pretty skeptical about delirium bring consistent enough but I think this card is playable in much more than just decks that are trying to hit delirium. Sort of like a Satyr Wayfinder w/o legs
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Jun 30, 2016 19:48
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Rinkles posted:Sort of like a Satyr Wayfinder w/o legs Not as good early in the game but better late.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:51
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In a delirium-centric deck Grapple seems like another sweet "tutor".
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Jun 30, 2016 19:56
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Rinkles posted:Sort of like a Satyr Wayfinder w/o legs It's more like a green Anticipate.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:01
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Fish Of Doom posted:It's more like a green Anticipate. I'm thinking of testing a couple in Sultai Dredge.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:03
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dragon enthusiast posted:This set is fricked up as heck Don't worry, WOLF SQUADRON is here to save us.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:08
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Seems like a worse Oath of Nissa outside of delirium decks.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:22
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It's a strictly different Pulse of Murasa.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:23
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AlternateNu posted:It's more like a more flexible Grisly Salvage. It's basically Lightning Bolt! Except it's green, costs one more, mills your decks instead of dealing damage, and replaces itself!
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Jun 30, 2016 20:24
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stinkles1112 posted:It's basically Lightning Bolt! Except it's green, costs one more, mills your decks instead of dealing damage, and replaces itself! The most efficient of cards.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:25
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Angry Grimace posted:Delirium Hymn to Tourach, holy poo poo. Hymn'rakul
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Jun 30, 2016 20:28
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Cernunnos posted:I don't know if you guys have noticed the Tail-Mouth yet or not.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:33
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Guys, green needs good instant speed card selection spells to make up for its lack of--hahaha, I can't even finish this sentence.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:34
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I didn't even notice it was instant, what the hell.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:39
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So Innistrad's toast after this right? Seems like this is the kind of thing worlds wouldn't come back from. Really hoping they don't nix Emerakul in this set and instead just have her run away again. The anti-climatic end of Oath wasn't very interesting, and man there are a lot of mechanics that would be fun to revisit sometime. Not necessarily soon, but sometime.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:40
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Thisuck posted:The most efficient of cards. Boy howdy. And when you consider that Lightning Bolt is basically just a damage dealing Black Lotus that costs a mana, we're really looking at a Power reprint here
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Jun 30, 2016 20:42
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EatinCake posted:So Innistrad's toast after this right? Seems like this is the kind of thing worlds wouldn't come back from. I somehow doubt they would allow the plane that undoubtedly makes them a shitload of money without even trying to just get offed. If anything it'll be perpetual Cthlhuland from now on.
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whydirt posted:Guys, green needs good instant speed card selection spells to make up for its lack of--hahaha, I can't even finish this sentence. Pretty cool that standard is and will remain dead for the foreseeable future, because they develop so far in advance that it's way too late to fix GW E: seriously, I legitimately doubt that anything short of reprinting snap-bolt will make either color more than an afterthought Black gets some neat stuff though, the GBw delirium deck looks like it might be good
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stinkles1112 posted:Boy howdy. And when you consider that Lightning Bolt is basically just a damage dealing Black Lotus that costs a mana, we're really looking at a Power reprint here poo poo, they did just reprint Donate! Also the better name won http://www.strawpoll.me/10623924/r
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EatinCake posted:So Innistrad's toast after this right? Seems like this is the kind of thing worlds wouldn't come back from. I'm still hedging my bets on the Silver Moon being made into a Helvault, with Emrakul trapped, but very much alive and pissed off to high hell. In four years she breaks out of space jail, jumps system and fucks up a straight up fantasy realm, leaving Innistraad with a constant, but not super threatening Eldrazi mutation problem.
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EatinCake posted:So Innistrad's toast after this right? Seems like this is the kind of thing worlds wouldn't come back from. It seems like they're setting Liliana up to be a big part of Innistrad's existence, with all the flavor text about how much of a connection she has with the plane and how much stronger she is there. I doubt Eldritch Moon will be the last we see of this plane. The eldrazi influence will remain, but there's still some interesting design space left that fits the flavor of Innistrad and plenty of horror-esque plotlines they can cook up.
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Angry Grimace posted:
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The Lord of Hats posted:Innistrad has the best flavor cards, and I'm already excited for Innistrad 3. I've been thinking about this lately. I'd chalk up Innistrad's success to a few things: 1. Western audiences are comfortable with colonial European imagery (expecially Victorian London). Contrast with Kamigawa. 2. Gothic horror lets the flavor have its science fiction, horror, and fantasy cakes and eat them too. It's awkward to call Blightsteel Colossus a creature for instance, or a Greek god a spell. 3. Being more rooted in real world imagery, it's probably easier for card artists to research and polish their work. Your typical artist has probably spent more time practicing realistic humans, settings, and animals over the course of their career as opposed to like, bald giants with tentacle faces who turn floating rock vistas into rainbow checkerboards or whatever? So the art looks way better.
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Mr. Jive posted:3. Being more rooted in real world imagery, it's probably easier for card artists to research and polish their work. Your typical artist has probably spent more time practicing realistic humans, settings, and animals over the course of their career as opposed to like, bald giants with tentacle faces who turn floating rock vistas into rainbow checkerboards or whatever? So the art looks way better. 
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Jun 30, 2016 21:13
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Whispers of Emrakul is not a good card in any format.
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Count Bleck posted:I somehow doubt they would allow the plane that undoubtedly makes them a shitload of money without even trying to just get offed. It seems like to me that Innistrad is more the plane that makes them try (and then they make a shitload of money). Edit: now that I think about it, why the hell did they do a D&D setting supplement for Zendikar, when Innistrad would have been so much better suited for that kind of thing?  ?
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Mr. Jive posted:I've been thinking about this lately. I'd chalk up Innistrad's success to a few things: So what you're saying is that instead of having fantasy Japan which was based on real Japanese mythology, we should have fantasy Japan during Rangoku and/or the Meiji Restoration period. We can have the appropriate western businessmen and the noble savage samurai (in red and green of course). 
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Trilas posted:It seems like to me that Innistrad is more the plane that makes them try (and then they make a shitload of money). Zendikar is supposed to be Adventure World, vaguely inspired by D&D-type stuff. So they made a supplement to close the loop.
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Toshimo posted:Whispers of Emrakul is not a good card in any format. You're right, in standard we're going to be too busy sacrificing MECHWOLF to Tormented Thoughts to bother making someone discard a measly two cards.
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Trilas posted:Edit: now that I think about it, why the hell did they do a D&D setting supplement for Zendikar, when Innistrad would have been so much better suited for that kind of thing?  EDIT: Is that too big? I can TIMG it.
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Toshimo posted:Whispers of Emrakul is not a good card in any format. It's terrible. But you're going to lose to it in limited and it's going to suck.
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mcmagic posted:It's terrible. But you're going to lose to it in limited and it's going to suck. I wouldn't care about losing to bad cards if it wasn't always the most insufferable prick playing them
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ThePeavstenator posted:I wouldn't care about losing to bad cards if it wasn't always the most insufferable prick playing them sup
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Angry Grimace posted:
 Greater dog, oh no what did they do to you 
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President Ark posted:
Was thinking the exact same thing myself Want a card of wolf hopping out of the mecha suit, licking Geralf's face, then hopping back in
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Toshimo posted:Whispers of Emrakul is not a good card in any format. Green Black Delirium might end up being a deck. (lol no because Green White value town will still exist but bear with me here) Whether it is good or not depends on A) how consistently a deck would hit delirium and B) how much it matters to nail two cards on turn 4 or later (sense I'm assuming thats gonna be the realistic time frame delirium turns on) There is some cool stuff black has going on with delirium, what irritates me most about this block is that it feels like there is like 3 really neat and cool archetypes (Red/Black Madness, Blue/Black Zombies, and Green/Black delirium) that has the pieces and does it's thing consistently and you feel like your playing a game of magic with a deck that has a focus and does it well, it's just that what that thing is super weak and pathetic when compared to the crushing power of the Green and White cards.
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The usefulness of Hymn has probably dropped off by the time you get delirium. Also lol at handwringing over a slightly better Corpse Churn.
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ThePeavstenator posted:I wouldn't care about losing to bad cards if it wasn't always the most insufferable prick playing them With me it's always the games where I'm playing someone totally inexperienced, but they're playing these bad cards and they happen to beat me when my draws already suck. I can remember so many games where I mulled to 5 and/or got stuck on land and some new player has some of those horrible counterspells in his deck at the right moments.
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