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nowhinezone posted:Palantir is flailing it seems
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blowfish posted:Ok let's go Sounds like another kiddie porn jungle similar to bitcoin or Tor but I don't think Yarvin is about that. More likely it is a secret supervillain network for "neo-cameralists" to plot the downfall of the New York Times and install the ancien regime. But no mammal would ever pick up a gun for or consent to be ruled by QinShiHuang Fungusgnat. Maybe a very patient monitor lizard.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 23:43 |
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They sound like people who have read too many Neal Stephenson novels jeez
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 00:19 |
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RandomPauI posted:So instead of buying a backup hard drive and using central cloud storage people will use a backup drive and decentralized cloud storage. You'll know never to do business with them again and the market will self correct.
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cheese posted:When all you really have is potential, you have to do everything you can to stop word of your failures from spreading. Almost as if 20 Billion dollar companies without anywhere near that amount in actual assets are a toxic barrel waiting to roll off the truck. So you're saying that we're gonna get either the Ninja Turtles or Daredevil out of this???
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 03:55 |
More like the Toxic Avenger.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 05:21 |
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We're people actually talking about Shadowrun?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 05:25 |
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Looks like some good news for airbnb an obscure anti-porn law is helping them avoid fines in the SF Bay Area. Well if the lawsuit holds up. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/29/airbnb-lawsuit-san-francisco-regulation-internet-porn A wacky dude got an anti-porn law passed in the 90's but business minded Republicans only voted it in with the inclusion of a section absolving hosts and services from being fined for user violations. quote:Section 230 holds that providers of “interactive computer services” cannot be held liable for the content that users post on their sites. That means that Yelp cannot be held liable for users leaving negative reviews of your business and eBay cannot be held liable if you bid on an autographed baseball that ends up being counterfeit: the platforms are held to be neutral intermediaries and their tantalizingly deep pockets are out of reach. airbnb is arguing they're not breaking the law when their users post rentals without proper permitting, so they can't be held responsible.
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Coolness Averted posted:Looks like some good news for airbnb an obscure anti-porn law is helping them avoid fines in the SF Bay Area. Well if the lawsuit holds up. Never heard section 230 referred to as an obscure anti-porn law.
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Isn't that like when Napster said they weren't responsible for users using their software to share illegal files?
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Joshmo posted:Joel Spolsky's Fog Creek is annoyingly cutesy about the way they're all one big happy family that codes and eats together. Then again, maybe I'm just jealous I'm not living or working in a Manhattan highrise. They're still around?!
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duz posted:Never heard section 230 referred to as an obscure anti-porn law. Section 230 is part of the obscure anti-porn law that has since been largely dismantled. I wasn't aware of those origins, were you? Also to be frank I've never even heard section 230 period, instead I hear stuff about the DMCA safe-habor stuff.
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JamesKPolk posted:This could ignorance on my part but whats the difference between a decentralized peer to peer network of personal servers... and the internet? Effectively no difference for the user, unless the user is some sperglord who wants p2p for the hell of it or is really .
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blowfish posted:Effectively no difference for the user, unless the user is some sperglord who wants p2p for the hell of it or is really . Moldbug at one point claimed that his whole deal with Urbit was specifically about building his (poorly considered and disgusting) philosophy into the fabric of a system people would use, and therefore get them to adopt it. The thing is he's also an obscuritanist sperglord and thus working hard to guarantee nobody actually uses his system. I can't believe anyone actually just forked over money to get a place in it given its terribleness along two separate axes. Moldbug having worked at Xaos in the 90s means I might know one or two people who worked with him, too. Maybe I'll see if anyone remembers him, and their reaction to him going full monarchist and slavery advocate.
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Crowsbeak posted:We're people actually talking about Shadowrun? no, shadowrun homebrews usually are less dystopian
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Coolness Averted posted:Section 230 is part of the obscure anti-porn law that has since been largely dismantled. I wasn't aware of those origins, were you? Also to be frank I've never even heard section 230 period, instead I hear stuff about the DMCA safe-habor stuff. Section 230 is a very important piece of law that enables a ton of e-activities. Social media basically couldn't exist without it. The SF city attorney will probably argue (disclaimer: IANAL, may be talking out of my rear end) that AirBNB is not merely a transmission agent because it processes payments, arbitrates disputes, etc. Dunno if that argument would fly or not.
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Coolness Averted posted:Section 230 is part of the obscure anti-porn law that has since been largely dismantled. I wasn't aware of those origins, were you? Also to be frank I've never even heard section 230 period, instead I hear stuff about the DMCA safe-habor stuff. Maybe I'm outing myself as an old, but yes, I remember the Communications Decency Act quite well and know all about the Section 230 safe harbor clause. It was a rather important get in passing the law as it's important to make sure the people actually breaking the law are held accountable not the middlemen who's agnostic tools that were used. Since, you know, that's how it works in the real world as well. And yes, like the real world, if the only use for your tool is illegal or you encouraged illegal behavior with your tool, you lose the safe harbor. Which is why I don't think this will entirely work for AirBnB. Example, there was a site a few years back that did apartment listings that was sued for discrimination because it let you filter on protected categories, they lost their 230 protection because the tool itself was promoting an illegal activity. E; Also, the DMCA safe harbor clause is only about copyright.
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duz posted:Maybe I'm outing myself as an old, but yes, I remember the Communications Decency Act quite well and know all about the Section 230 safe harbor clause. It was a rather important get in passing the law as it's important to make sure the people actually breaking the law are held accountable not the middlemen who's agnostic tools that were used. Since, you know, that's how it works in the real world as well. And yes, like the real world, if the only use for your tool is illegal or you encouraged illegal behavior with your tool, you lose the safe harbor. Which is why I don't think this will entirely work for AirBnB. Example, there was a site a few years back that did apartment listings that was sued for discrimination because it let you filter on protected categories, they lost their 230 protection because the tool itself was promoting an illegal activity. Is there some test for safe harbor that doesn't involve action or inaction on Airbnb's part? Can they lose safe harbor if 99% of their listings are not in compliance? 50%? I think Airbnb may win this one.
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Xand_Man posted:The guillotine is too merciful.
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JamesKPolk posted:This could ignorance on my part but whats the difference between a decentralized peer to peer network of personal servers... and the internet? The core idea is that your computer can farm out work to other computers, and is available for other computers to use for their own work. This is a pretty hot research area and it's one place where Bitcoin-style blockchain/distributed-ledger stuff is actually worth anything - you need some way to exchange credit for work, the proof-of-work component is tied to meaningful computation rather than hashing-for-the-sake-of-hashing, and it's backed by actual computation rather than "sure, I guess you can use this to pay for things that aren't drugs, child pornography, and ransom demands." The end goal of these systems is to create a sort of cloud computing network, but instead of going to Amazon, Microsoft, or Google and saying, "please run this for me, and charge my credit card," you just toss your request out on the Computation Network, with a certain number of work tokens attached, and anybody who wants to pick it up can do so. Of course, this runs into a lot of issues once you move outside of a university lab into the real world. Besides the problems with just keeping stable communication going, you need to make sure you're not dealing with somebody who says, "the answer's zero, totally did the work, now pay me those tokens" to every request. Proof-of-work and reputation is a big deal, along with some kind of payment system that actually works and doesn't fall into all the traps-at-scale that Bitcoin has shown. Urbit's spin on this is to throw out a lot of the hard parts and replace it with what is literally a feudal system. In Urbit, you can't just create an address on the system for yourself, because there's a hierarchy of strictly limited addresses. Yarvin and co. have come up with different names for these tiers on both astronomy and naval themes, but it boils down to a limit of 256 "kings", 65k "lords", 4 billion "freemen", and 4 billion slaves per freeman. The fact that there are fewer unique freemen/destroyer/planet-level identities than people on Earth is a feature, not a bug. In this system, if you misbehave, your master exiles you from the network to prevent damage to their own reputation. In other words, it's the internet Peter Thiel sees when he's alone at night.
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Boot and Rally posted:Is there some test for safe harbor that doesn't involve action or inaction on Airbnb's part? Can they lose safe harbor if 99% of their listings are not in compliance? 50%? I think Airbnb may win this one. No, it's (almost) entirely based on their actions, see how Silk Road was treated vs how eBay was. For AirBnB, it's really hard to tell this far in advance how a judge might rule on 230 qualification since it depends on a lot of things, some of which could hurt or help them depending on mood.
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wateroverfire posted:Section 230 is a very important piece of law that enables a ton of e-activities. Social media basically couldn't exist without it. The SF city attorney will probably argue (disclaimer: IANAL, may be talking out of my rear end) that AirBNB is not merely a transmission agent because it processes payments, arbitrates disputes, etc. Dunno if that argument would fly or not. Yeah the linked article goes into why that particular section was very important to how the internet wound up shaped and had a snippet from the more sane folks who ensured it went in. That's their argument, but it hasn't worked previously without good-faith efforts to curb illegal activity. duz posted:No, it's (almost) entirely based on their actions, see how Silk Road was treated vs how eBay was. For AirBnB, it's really hard to tell this far in advance how a judge might rule on 230 qualification since it depends on a lot of things, some of which could hurt or help them depending on mood. Another example of a company dancing pretty heavily with cities and local jurisdictions over their users is Craigslist. They were nearly kicked out of cities like SF for the illegal activities of users. Yeah you'll still see shady stuff there, but they've stepped up moderation and took out flagrant sections like "Adult Employment," and unlike airbnb they weren't getting a cut of the money made from said illegal activities.
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It is worth pointing out that there is an easy way and a hard way for AirBnB to deal with their users not complying to with the short term rental regulations, and despite their protests and lawsuit doing what the new regulations require is the easy way for AirBnB. The hard way is for the city to file John Doe lawsuits for every single listing and that doesn't have a registration number listed and flood AirBnB with literally tens of thousands of subpoenas.
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Shifty Pony posted:It is worth pointing out that there is an easy way and a hard way for AirBnB to deal with their users not complying to with the short term rental regulations, and despite their protests and lawsuit doing what the new regulations require is the easy way for AirBnB. But then every jurisdiction would want the company to follow its "laws" and "regulations," and it would just choke the innovation!
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Shifty Pony posted:It is worth pointing out that there is an easy way and a hard way for AirBnB to deal with their users not complying to with the short term rental regulations, and despite their protests and lawsuit doing what the new regulations require is the easy way for AirBnB. A company like airbnb will decide that it gets to do whatever it wants and will fight tooth and nail to make that a legal reality. Either they'll fail and try again later or win and have the very precedent they helped put on place dick them over in the future. Then they'll challenge it.
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marissaquote:Marissa Mayer addressed the purple elephant in the room immediately after stepping on stage: No, there are no updates about Yahoo's sale process.
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What's her parachute valued at again?
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 01:27 |
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Over 100 peon-years I belive
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Calling this as the top of the bubble.
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Condiv posted:marissa And yet she's still survived into q4 at least. Gosh that must be nice. edit: Jumpingmanjim posted:Calling this as the top of the bubble. I'm pretty sure that's fake, but just the fact I'm not 100% sure probably still proves your point. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Calling this as the top of the bubble.
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Job Function: Management Does that mean there's a staff? Or is it we are going to gently caress you out of over time.
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http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/06/teslas-autopilot-being-investigated-by-the-government-in-a-fatal-crash/quote:The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is about to take a closer look at Tesla's Autopilot, the company revealed on Thursday. In a blog post, Tesla says that it learned on Wednesday evening that the NHTSA is "opening a preliminary evaluation into the performance of Autopilot" following a fatal crash involving a Model S.
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BrandorKP posted:Job Function: Management Traditionally chefs are managing a kitchen. This is probably fake, but if you have experience at a restaurant with a Michelin star you're getting the type of chef jobs that have at least a few cooks working under you, if not a large kitchen staff.
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Munkeymon posted:They're still around?! Spolsky taught me how to make the perfect espresso Was at the exchange office tho so not sure about fog creek
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asdf32 posted:http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/06/teslas-autopilot-being-investigated-by-the-government-in-a-fatal-crash/ Yet they keep giving me poo poo when I say self-driving cars aren't 'right around the corner'. Basic little gently caress-ups that would be 'just patch it' inconveniences in a PC are life or death in a moving car.
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Condiv posted:marissa quote:"Yahoo's management team and our board are fully aligned with one clear priority: delivering shareholder value to all of you," Mayer said in her opening remarks on Thursday. "We have no announcements today, but we are continuing to make great progress on our process." You ask your doctor how well the chemo is attacking your tumor? We are continuing to make great progress on our process. You ask your mechanic if the car will be finished before closing time? We are continuing to make great progress on our process. You ask your kids teacher if his 5 paragraph essays have gotten any better this semester? We are continuing to make great progress on our process. But when you are heading a multi billion dollar corporation? Sure, why not! asdf32 posted:http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/06/teslas-autopilot-being-investigated-by-the-government-in-a-fatal-crash/
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archangelwar posted:Spolsky taught me how to make the perfect espresso Yeah, I meant Fog Creek. Haven't heard about their bug tracker(?) written in a bespoke, artisanal VB knockoff () in about a decade, so I figured they went under.
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Tech company gonna tech: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bookmark/facebook-tell-all-policing-female-907866 Apparently they explicitly told women not to wear distracting clothing. Because brogrammers are unironically pigs. Pochoclo posted:Can't blame people for their voice but jesus christ that's a whole lot of stupid bullshit she's spouting. If I said like a hundredth of that poo poo in a job interview I'd get a boot up my rear end, why do rich people think it's a good idea to give lots of money to people like this? Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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