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HMS Boromir posted:I'll take a crack at it. It looks like the RAM that i had here isn't available anymore? Can anyone suggest a 2x4 or a single 8? Also, does anyone else have any input, i'm about to press the buy button and wanna make sure this all looks decent.
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Live Streaming What's your budget? 600, 750 if necessary. Ideally anything above 600 would represent significant gains/value or be critical to functionality. If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? It'll be a dedicated streaming computer running OBS (https://obsproject.com/) Desired bit rate, etc... 1080p 3500 bit rate 30 fps (let me know if I'm misusing terminology/unclear) My brother has run a small film company focusing on commercials for the past few years. He's wanting to experiment with streaming content (not gaming), most likely on Twitch. He asked for my help with figuring out what computer to build/buy to do the streaming and so I'm asking you. Based on his research he identified this computer as a possible candidate: http://dealnews.com/Dell-Inspiron-Skylake-Core-i7-Quad-3.4-GHz-PC-for-579-free-shipping/1718642.html From trying to build the same computer on PCPartPicker it seems like this is a great deal. At the same time I'm not sure if we're missing cheaper/better options or if it will actually be powerful enough. Appreciate any help/insight you can offer. Edit: Oh I also noticed the motherboard doesn't appear to be listed on that deal. Is that something I should be worried about or advertising just didn't consider it important info? Arkangelus fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Loose Ifer posted:It looks like the RAM that i had here isn't available anymore? Can anyone suggest a 2x4 or a single 8? Here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XgJkcf/gskill-memory-f42133c15s8gnt The motherboard you listed can't handle anything faster than DDR4-2133 anyway.
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short version: What's a minimal video card that does hardware encoding for Steam in-home streaming that does NOT need to be up to the task of today's games? Have a PC I built about nine years ago. Switched to PS4 for my contemporary AAA gaming years ago so I am not interested in doing a full-fledged upgrade. Like everybody, I do have a big collection of stuff I never really touched on Steam; got a Steam Link with the idea of clearing some of that backlog from the comfort of a coach and it works better than I expected. Network lag is not a problem but I do run into "slow encoding" a lot. Haven't bought a AAA game on PC in forever, just curious if I can get something that would be old by today's standards on the cheap that would handle this -- I'm guessing literally any card that does this would be a huge step up from my HD4850 with 512MB. Nvidia is supposed to be better at this, I do know.
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A bit of research indicates that a 650/750 or better on the Nvidia side or an R7 260 or better on the AMD side should be OK. There are older AMD cards capable of it but they won't be as good as the 260, which is not that expensive anyway.
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Thanks, that's what I was having trouble nailing down.
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I've got an ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac motherboard. DDR3 RAM. I've only got 8gb at the moment, I'd like to go up to 16gb. Primarily for gaming. Hoping to spend in the 50-70 range for each part, but I'm a little flexible. It looks like anything over 1600 is overclocked RAM or something? Anyone have any recommendations? Or should I really just be looking at a new motherboard at this point? I've got an i7-4770k in there and can currently run most stuff at pretty high settings. Eventually gotta upgrade the case and PSU but that might have to wait a little while. What Country: USA Budget: 50-70, flexible Primary goal: Gaming
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming/General Use/Internet What's your budget? Would like to keep it under $900 If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? I only play Paradox games, maybe the new Civilization when it comes out... PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($247.50 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: Rosewill 600W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon) Total: $851.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 01:35 EDT-0400 Any glaring stupidities or errors here?
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Swedish Metal posted:What country are you in? USA Get a 1070 other than the founders edition.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Here: Thank you kindly sir! I pulled the trigger. Woohoo.
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Ordered all my parts today, minus video card. NCIX shipping rates 
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Can anyone tell me the difference between these "different" series of ram?
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Zero The Hero posted:Can anyone tell me the difference between these "different" series of ram? From the provided specs the difference is cosmetic. It's likely that the heat spreaders are it.
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Zero The Hero posted:Can anyone tell me the difference between these "different" series of ram? I can't remember why, but I remember reading something that made me favor trident back when I built my system. I think it was the brand they used for their highest spec stuff so I guess I speculated that it might have a marginally higher tolerance or something, but I honestly don't remember. But my advice would be to get the trident in a tie breaker because I trust fosbourne research from 2 months ago that he doesn't remember.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I can't remember why, but I remember reading something that made me favor trident back when I built my system. I think it was the brand they used for their highest spec stuff so I guess I speculated that it might have a marginally higher tolerance or something, but I honestly don't remember. But my advice would be to get the trident in a tie breaker because I trust fosbourne research from 2 months ago that he doesn't remember. I saw a similar trend, tried to look into the specs to figure out why, and couldn't, so I suspect: Rexxed posted:From the provided specs the difference is cosmetic. It's likely that the heat spreaders are it. is the truth.
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Re: demciflex filter availability on the last page, I found a decent amount of their stuff in stock at https://www.performance-pcs.com/, based in Florida. Only $4.95 to ship by USPS, if you don't mind snail mail. I have another airflow question though: This frequently linked test found that leaving unused fan mounts unblocked can help your temps dramatically... if I open up the unused top vents of my R5 and put a demciflex filter over them, will I still be able to maintain positive pressure with my one extra intake fan? Or is turning the entire top of the case into a vent too much for it to account for? If it matters, I've got two 140 intakes front and side, and a matching exhaust in rear. I'm worried that with so much air escaping out the top, it won't flow as forcefully out the little gaps and might let dust and hair in... with two cats and a dog we have a serious dander issue 
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Tunklord Supreme posted:thanks, that's good to know. after taking these suggestions into account and reworking my list a little i've come up with this: wanted to repost this so it didn't get hidden on the last post of the last page. i'm pulling the trigger on all of this today, but first i wanted to get final confirmation from someone smarter than me that this is all going to work together. also do i need to worry about it all fitting in the case or is this stuff all pretty streamlined?
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Dohaeris posted:I've got an ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac motherboard. DDR3 RAM. I've only got 8gb at the moment, I'd like to go up to 16gb. Primarily for gaming. Changing mobos wouldn't make a lotta sense. You'd either have to upgrade procs (to a new socket) and memory (up to DDR4) as well, or just sink money into an older chipset/architecture to keep all of your current components. I'd just hang on to what you have for now and bump up to 16GB RAM
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming and running multiple VMs to explore new technologies, hence the 32GB of RAM below. What's your budget? $2k-ish for the box. Monitor, OS, peripherals don't count against that. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Don't have one yet, but it'll be 2560x1440; I've included my front-runner below, but I'm open to suggestions. Here's what I'm currently playing around with. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.85 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ NCIX US) Case: Thermaltake Suppressor F51 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg) Monitor: Dell U2715H 27.0" 60Hz Monitor ($502.11 @ Amazon) Total: $2548.87 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 11:34 EDT-0400 I'm waffling on the motherboard, going between this and the Gigabyte Gaming 5 or 7. I'm a bit concerned that QA at Asus has gotten worse. I'm open to other suggestions here. I'd like the option of doing M.2, because the technology geek in me thinks that it's loving sweet, so I've included that here, but it's by no means a requirement. I can't decide on case; I like the looks of this one well enough, and it appears as though I can top-mount the radiator for the cooler, so hooray for that. That having been said, I'm far from married to it. Really what I'd like is good internal configurability, good airflow, and front USB 3.x. I may or may not add 3.5" spinning platters later on, but I'd like to keep the option open. I don't want anything ostentatious and I don't care about having a window so I can see the innards, but if it gets me an appreciably better case, then I'm fine with it. Any direction is appreciated. Amazon is the preferred vendor, since it's on the cashback calendar for my Discover card, which means I get an effective 10% back right now, but that's only if it makes sense - if the best option is only available elsewhere, then I'll buy it elsewhere.
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming What's your budget? My goal was to keep it under $1000. I'm willing to go $200 above that if I have a really good reason. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? I am aiming for 1080p at high settings for recent games. I'm upgrading from a 4 year old ThinkPad so I don't feel the need to go totally  , but I may look to upgrade in 2-3 years.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900ALED Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.88 @ OutletPC) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($274.99 @ Amazon) Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.88 @ Newegg) Total: $989.20 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 14:47 EDT-0400 This is my first desktop since 2005 and I was completely lost when it came to current motherboards... also a bit paranoid I've overlooked some sort of devious compatibility. I'm not planning to overclock right out of the gate, but I'd like to have the option once I get a better understanding of just what I'm dealing with. I appreciate any feedback you can give. I'm really excited to play Shadow of Mordor and some other games I missed over the years. Thanks goons 
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blowfish posted:Get a 1070 other than the founders edition. It's more or less a place holder, but I am willing to spend the extra $$ for the "Armor" edition because it's more aesthetic than the FE. What's the main gripe with FE's?
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Swedish Metal posted:It's more or less a place holder, but I am willing to spend the extra $$ for the "Armor" edition because it's more aesthetic than the FE. What's the main gripe with FE's? Blower coolers are loud for the cooling they give unless you have bad case airflow and need the heat ejected. That's not something really worth a premium.
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Amazon has started to advertise their second annual July sale. Was there anything worth buying, computer part wise, last year? I remember hearing that the sale itself was lame, but never hurts to ask!
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A friend is asking about this motherboard for a Skylake build: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01AUSEBHE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE I've advised him against buying Gigabyte motherboards but for some reason he keeps going back to them in his configurations. Some men just want to watch the world burn, I suppose. Would this motherboard be a bad idea?
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:June 29th, but you can always get the system together and slap in the video card later, we don't know if there will be shortages at launch so you might end up waiting a week or so before being able to get your hands on one. In the mean time you just use the onboard graphics, you can even play some games on lower settings with the iGPU on the i5-6500 while you wait. I missed the release of the card but I want to make sure I get the right one when it is available. It is this one correct? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202221 or is it this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202222 I would like to get the rx 480 before the end of July, do you think stock will be back by then or shall I just go in a different direction? Thanks for the help
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UnhealthyJoe posted:I missed the release of the card but I want to make sure I get the right one when it is available. It is this one correct? The good ones are going to be neither of those, you're looking for ones with a different cooler and more than a single 6 pin power connector. They should definitely be launching before end of July, PowerColor's got a giveaway running for a card with a better cooler and power delivery and that ends on the eleventh.
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Hi folks, I need some comments on my upgrades: CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7 Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro 4 Motherboard Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory I'm going to keep the graphics card and power supply from my old system, at least temporarily. Graphics Card: ASUS Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 Power Supply: FSP Hyper 600W ATX 80+ Bronze Monitor: Dell P2416D (2560 x 1440) Does this seem like a reasonable setup? I'm mainly going to use it for gaming, and am looking at keeping the cost under 1000$. I live in Norway if that matters.
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What kind of games do you play? Your card is six years old at this point, and right now GPUs are by far the most important bottleneck when it comes to gaming.
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Phlegmish posted:What kind of games do you play? Your card is six years old at this point, and right now GPUs are by far the most important bottleneck when it comes to gaming. I haven't really been gaming much the last few years, but I am hoping to run Overwatch and Witcher 3 atleast.
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Bleh Maestro posted:Yeah what CPU are you upgrading from? I had an AMD Phenom II X4 955, but it fried together with my old power supply when I tried to play vermintide a few months back.
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What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Gaming (Overwatch primarily), digital drawing, and everyday stuff like Skype and Netflix. What's your budget? $1,200 If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? Digital drawing software, streaming. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 60 FPS, 1080p/1440p, high settings. This is going to be my first build; I don't know too much about computers and I'm looking for any and all advice. What I've heard so far is that I should wait for the aftermarket RX 480 for my video card, that a stock CPU cooler will work for my build, and that I can get a 550W psu instead. Thank you: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: MSI H170A PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Micro Center) Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($54.99 @ Best Buy) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H) Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($17.88 @ OutletPC) Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) Other: Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit System Builder OEM | PC Disc ($85.95) Other: YAMAKASI CATLEAP 2703 LED 27" 2560X1440 LG IPS DVI-D PC Monitor ($199.00) Total: $1253.14 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 19:56 EDT-0400 fufufuyen fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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How long are power supplies usually good for? I bought a semi modular NZXT power supply in 2012 for my build, and I'm hoping to continue to use it when I get a new processor and mobo later this year. I haven't had any problems with it yet.
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Zotix posted:How long are power supplies usually good for? I bought a semi modular NZXT power supply in 2012 for my build, and I'm hoping to continue to use it when I get a new processor and mobo later this year. I haven't had any problems with it yet. It feels like a general rule for power supplies is that how long you should use them is equal to their warranty length. Warranty length and expected quality pretty much go hand in hand with PSU's from what I've seen.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:It feels like a general rule for power supplies is that how long you should use them is equal to their warranty length. Warranty length and expected quality pretty much go hand in hand with PSU's from what I've seen. 5 years, so maybe I'll buy a new one. When did EVGA jump to the top of recommendations on PSU?
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Sorry for off topic sort of but haus of tech support is kind of slow and just have a quick question. I forgot to grab some files off of my old computer can I just pop the hard drive (containing win7) into my new system and just read the data off it as a secondary drive? I'm 99% sure yes I just want to make sure before I gently caress something up.
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mystery at hog island posted:What country are you in? USA Changed things a bit: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($43.53 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($110.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card ($272.99 @ NCIX US) Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg) Total: $1013.44 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 22:20 EDT-0400 1. I changed the cooler you chose, nothing against Zalman, I just don't know anything about them while I am familiar with the Cryorig H7. It'll cool around the same level as far more expensive units, but feel free to switch back to the Zalman if you trust that brand. 2. I changed you to a slightly more expensive ATX board (since you picked an ATX case, though the one you picked would fit inside the case you chose). This is the Pro4, not the Pro4S, so it's got a couple more features over the Pro4S. They don't make much of a difference though. 3. Changed the video card to the RX 480 8GB model. Now that the RX 480 is out, it's trades blows with the GTX 970, but at this point I'd look for the 970 to drop in price a bit more making it the better value, or for aftermarket cooler versions of the 480 to come out in the same price point which should make them the better value (as they'll likely perform better than the 970 at that point). The real value option here would be to pick up a used 970 on SA Mart or eBay. 4. Changed your PSU to an EVGA G2. The Corsair CX power supplies are largely recommended against as they apparently have a high failure rate. It's a little bit more than the $1000 you set, but still well under the $1200 you said you could go up to. I'm sure someone else could probably make better recommendations, but I think this will pretty well have you covered. Also, I excluded Superbiiz and OutletPC as they, according to AVeryLargeRadish, may not be entirely legitimate.
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Variable_H posted:Changed things a bit: Thank you! This is the exact kind of advice I was hoping to get. I hadn't given much thought to the Radeon card due to my (admittedly silly) brand loyalty from the Geforce 2 I used in high school. It looks like it's time to lurk SA-Mart for a deal... or maybe wait for an aftermarket 480. Ahh, you've really given me something to think about here.
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